Liberty Candidate 2012

Elwar

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Who knows how the 2008 election will play out. It's certainly not too early to start looking at 2012.

An important thing for 2012 will be for us to not split up our efforts between multiple candidates (it's easy to forsee many debates on the "Ron Paul candidate" of 2012, just look at all of the debates over whom should be Ron Paul's VP).

So, here's my idea: We create a PAC that will take $100 per vote (up to the max contribution), we hold an election in spring of 2011 and then send people their money back in the hopes that they will then donate that money to the winning candidate.

Why not keep that money as a PAC? A PAC cannot donate to a candidate, but thousands of donors can.

Why not just have everyone sign up and sign some pledge to have the vote? Because anyone can sign up for some online petition and not have it mean anything.

This PAC would give the potential candidate a good idea of how much money he can expect to raise right away. Most candidates feel things out to see how much they'll be able to raise when determining whether or not they'll run. It would be hard to feel out how much the grassroots would be willing to contribute. This would give them that answer.

A sort of primary before the primary...so we don't split the liberty vote between multiple candidates.

The sooner we begin, the larger the coffers we can acquire.
 
I think it sounds like a good idea. We should also try to get a fusion Constitution/Libertarian ticket(order not by preference there, just incidence of typing btw), assuming a Republican candidate like Ron Paul does not emerge.

The vote could be on them, and then we could try with our fervency to get the winner at the top of a ticket with the loser as VP, and all others we attempt to get an endorsement.
 
Who knows how the 2008 election will play out. It's certainly not too early to start looking at 2012.

An important thing for 2012 will be for us to not split up our efforts between multiple candidates (it's easy to forsee many debates on the "Ron Paul candidate" of 2012, just look at all of the debates over whom should be Ron Paul's VP).

So, here's my idea: We create a PAC that will take $100 per vote (up to the max contribution), we hold an election in spring of 2011 and then send people their money back in the hopes that they will then donate that money to the winning candidate.

Why not keep that money as a PAC? A PAC cannot donate to a candidate, but thousands of donors can.

Why not just have everyone sign up and sign some pledge to have the vote? Because anyone can sign up for some online petition and not have it mean anything.

This PAC would give the potential candidate a good idea of how much money he can expect to raise right away. Most candidates feel things out to see how much they'll be able to raise when determining whether or not they'll run. It would be hard to feel out how much the grassroots would be willing to contribute. This would give them that answer.

A sort of primary before the primary...so we don't split the liberty vote between multiple candidates.

The sooner we begin, the larger the coffers we can acquire.

Spring of 2011 might be kind of early in the next election season... who knows? What if a better liberty candidate enters the race after Spring of 2011?
 
Why not start the campaign the moment the next President is inaugurated?
 
Something else that could keep things interesting between now and 2011...

2 years before the actual vote we can have people who donate vote on voting method, condorcet (the voting method used to choose NH as the Free State), highest vote total, or someone is required to have at least 50% (like how the LP determines their candidates).

1 year before the actual vote we narrow the candidates down to a top ten candidates supplied by the donors.
 
Spring of 2011 might be kind of early in the next election season... who knows? What if a better liberty candidate enters the race after Spring of 2011?

Ron Paul started his campaign in May of 2007...he'd been feeling things out since January...

The thing about giving the money back to the donors is that they'll ulitimately have the choice whether to go with the christened candidate or to throw their money somewhere else if they're not satisfied...the candidate would have to earn their money.
 
Personally I'm hoping for a Jesse Ventura/Gary Johnson 2012 independent run. That would be awesome and it would awaken our base once again. Plus, they are both Washington "outsiders" and former popular Governors.
 
Ron Paul started his campaign in May of 2007...he'd been feeling things out since January...

Paul started his committee in January and offically announced on C-Span in March 2007.

As for 2012: way too early. But our best bet would be drafting former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson to run in the republican primary.
 
But our best bet would be drafting former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson to run in the republican primary.


I like Gary Johnson...I heard him speak at the national LP convention, he's a great guy.

His is the only record I can point to as being comparable to Dr Paul's. He vetoed a huge percentage of bills coming through.
 
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