Libertarianism in the South

[malkusm]

Ehm, were you being sarcastic?

Thats not really Ulster-Scots history.

Feel free to enlighten me, but that's how I understand it. The British crown desperately wanted control over Ireland, and more or less used force to send Scots to northern Ireland as a way to slowly indoctrinate the people there into a pro-British government mindset via breeding over hundreds of years.

But it's been several years since I read anything on the subject, so again, feel free to point me to something if I'm way off base.

 

[sailor]

3. CHRISTIANITY VERSUS SECULAR HUMANISM--The South believed in basic Christianity as presented in the Holy Bible.The North had many Secular Humanists ( atheists, transcendentalists and non-Christians ). Southerners were afraid of what kind of country America might become if the North had its way. Secular Humanism is the belief that there is no God and that man,science and government can solve all problems. This philosophy advocates human rather than religious values. Reference : Frank Conner’s book “The South Under Siege 1830-2000.”

It was actually the North that was into Christian fundamentalism. Battle Hym of the Republic anyone? Know-nothings anyone? The North was Puritan and pietist. The South at the time was liturgical and relaxed.

4. CULTURAL DIFFERENCES--Southerners and Northerners were of different Genetic Lineages. Southerners were primarily of Western English (original Britons),Scottish,and Irish linage (Celtic) whereas Northerners tended to be of Anglo-Saxon and Danish (Viking) extraction. The two cultures had been at war and at odds for over 1000 years before they arrived in America. Our ancient ancestors in Western England under King Arthur humbled the Saxon princes at the battle of Baden Hill ( circa 497 AD --516 AD ). The cultural differences that contributed to the War Between the States (1861-1865 ) had existed for 1500 years or more.

Genetic differences caused the war?

Actually the only meaningful cultural difference was that the establishment in the South were culturaly of Stuartian and Jacobite extraction while in the North it was of Puritan (Yankee) extraction.

You would expect that therefore the Scotch-Irish Presbyterians would settle in the North among fellow Calvinists insteand, and indeed the first wave did, but Puritans proved such sons of bitches that they moved to the South instead where the Aglicans (and Lutherans and Catholics) proved more tolerant.

 

[torchbearer]

It was actually the North that was into Christian fundamentalism. Battle Hym of the Republic anyone? Know-nothings anyone? The North was Puritan and pietist. The South at the time was liturgical and relaxed.



Genetic differences caused the war?

Actually the only meaningful cultural difference was that the establishment in the South were culturaly of Stuartian and Jacobite extraction while in the North it was of Puritan (Yankee) extraction.

You would expect that therefore the Scotch-Irish Presbyterians would settle in the North among fellow Calvinists insteand, and indeed the first wave did, but Puritans proved such sons of bitches that they moved to the South instead where the Aglicans (and Lutherans and Catholics) proved more tolerant.

Louisiana doesn't really fit into your generalizations. The last state to surrender, the last state out of reconstruction, and the state most likely to weather the recession.
And up til Bill Clinton extorting the state legislature, the last state to allow 18 years old to drink alcohol.
And still, after the law passed, it was not enforced in my home parish of evangeline for a few months afterwards because a sitting district judge declared it unconstitutional.

 

[sailor]

Louisiana doesn't really fit into your generalizations. The last state to surrender, the last state out of reconstruction, and the state most likely to weather the recession.
And up til Bill Clinton extorting the state legislature, the last state to allow 18 years old to drink alcohol.
And still, after the law passed, it was not enforced in my home parish of evangeline for a few months afterwards because a sitting district judge declared it unconstitutional.

What are you talking about?

 

[Matt Collins]

Louisiana doesn't really fit into your generalizations. the state most likely to weather the recession.

How so?

 

[torchbearer]

How so?

BusinessWeek generated a “Best Cities for Riding Out a Recession”

   1. Arlington, VA
   2. District of Columbia
   3. Durham, NC
   4. Madison, WI
   5. Boston, MA
   6. Pittsburgh, PA
   7. Baltimore, MD
   [B]8. Baton Rouge, LA[/B]
   9. New Orleans, LA
  10. Philadelphia, PA
  11. Lubbock, TX
  12. Anchorage, AK
  13. Lexington-Fayette, KY
  14. Buffalo, NY
  15. Lincoln, NE
  16. Irvine, CA
  17. Seattle, WA
  18. Chesapeake, VA
  19. Albuquerque, NM
  20. Corpus Christi, TX

And by their criteria, Alexandria, Monroe and Shreveport or in better condition than Baton Rouge. Lafayette is another city not in the survey. It is the tops in economic boom in the state.
Alexandria was honor by Bush before he left office for being one of the few cities to show dramatic growth over the last year.
I call it Katrina stimulus effect.

 

[torchbearer]

What are you talking about?

your generalization do not match louisiana.

 

[anaconda]

How so?

Less infrastructure dependent?