Libertarian VP Candidate Weld: "I'm Here Vouching For Mrs. Clinton

[LibertyEagle]

I watched the entire Rachel Maddow interview, and it is worse than the clip. Weld actively campaigned for Clinton, a candidate that goes against LP platform. I had my mind made up to vote for Johnson as soon as he was nominated. I voted for him in 2012. Now I am 75%.

I got an email from Weld last night and replied that he needs to step down. I called for Weld's resignation in the Libertarian discussion group.

The Libertarian Party is having a crisis of leadership by not taking action against Weld. Gary Johnson is showing weakness by doing nothing. He needs to have a press conference today and demand Weld leave the campaign. This is the only way Johnson get back to 5% or have a chance to keep either candidate for 270.

If Gary Johnson cannot address and correct this situation, it changes my view of his ability to be president. A Ron Paul write-in is a serious possibility for me now. Maybe Vermin Supreme.

I should have just listened to Gunny!

I told you right from the start that the guy was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and that he also co-chaired the CFR Task Force, with reps from the U.S., Canada and Mexico about a North American Union. That should have told you all you needed to know.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I'm with Weld! Hillary has better moral character than Trump. Hillary 2016!

 

[CPUd]

Today is the last day of early voting in Tennessee. Beautiful day.

I voted today. Holy guacamole people are angry out there. By law I could have requested to move to the front of the line (obvious difficulty walking and standing and use a cane), but I was okay to wait. The line moved very quickly. I was glad to get out of there, though.

Did not vote for Johnson/Weld. Did not hear them mentioned at all by anyone.

I've seen a lot of Johnson signs in Wilson County.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I'm with Weld! Hillary has better moral character than Trump. Hillary 2016!

Why am I not surprised.

 

[dean.engelhardt]

I told you right from the start that the guy was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and that he also co-chaired the CFR Task Force, with reps from the U.S., Canada and Mexico about a North American Union. That should have told you all you needed to know.

Today I eat crow.

 

[undergroundrr]

and

all were worse than Gary.

That was a mistype (were should have been weren't) that I corrected later. I totally agree with you.

 

[69360]

There was a reason Weld barely won the VP nomination and Sharpe came a close 2nd on the 2nd ballot. This guy is a snake in the grass, which is what a large portion of libertarians could see a mile away and why a near plurality voted against the guy. He never should have won, but the GJ effort to court delegates on his side well in advance of the convention in comparison to the other candidates is what ultimately gave us someone as terrible as Weld.

If there are people interested in the 2020 LP nomination, and there definitely are, they need to be working on it already or you will lose to a half foot in, half foot out establishment candidate like GJ, who is most certainly willing to do the extensive work to win, and will bring their unprincipled fellows along for the ride.

But the LP needs candidates like Johnson/Weld if they are going to get anywhere. Ok well there certainly is a a case for maybe not Weld now, but anyway. Former governors, Senators or Congressmen with name recognition. Name recognition and credibility is the only reason they are doing so well now. A stripping fat guy, a greasy dude who wants sex with kids, etc are never going to win national elections.

 

[silverhandorder]

They are not doing well at all.

 

[BamaAla]

There is a girl from my hometown who is a...well I don't know what she identifies as anymore but she was at one time a libertarian and she has a bit of a following on facebook that tends toward "libertarianism." I saw today more than 1 person was on her page talking about how good Johnson/Weld have been for libertarianism and how much better off the party will be when the sexist, racist, and bigoted Ron Paul people leave the party.

I say all that to say that there are libertarians who are very happy with this ticket.

 

[undergroundrr]

There is a girl from my hometown who is a...well I don't know what she identifies as anymore but she was at one time a libertarian and she has a bit of a following on facebook that tends toward "libertarianism." I saw today more than 1 person was on her page talking about how good Johnson/Weld have been for libertarianism and how much better off the party will be when the sexist, racist, and bigoted Ron Paul people leave the party.

I say all that to say that there are libertarians who are very happy with this ticket.

Exactly. RPF is a fishbowl of mostly paleos, representing the macho don't-take-shit-from-nobody, anti-CRM contingent of libertarianism. You may find libertarians in the wider world don't have the same kind of triggers as some of those here. Now that the debates are a done deal, it really doesn't matter a heck of a lot what Johnson or Weld say. They're on track to do better than any other LP ticket, but I'm resigned it still won't be enough to threaten the two-party system.

 

[Jerry C]

Weld and Johnson are both establishment puppets, the libertarian party has been sadly infiltrated by globalists.

I saw today more than 1 person was on her page talking about how good Johnson/Weld have been for libertarianism and how much better off the party will be when the sexist, racist, and bigoted Ron Paul people leave the party.

Based on how fast and far the Libertarian Party is crumbling, they may get their wish. This is why I stress that I am a small l libertarian, usurpers like that may take over but I will never recognize them as libertarian.

 

[osan]

I wonder how much he got paid to say those things.

This is just surreal.

 

[osan]

Bill Weld is a CFR traitor, just like Clinton.



They are contemporaries of the elite, CFR members defend each other.

Holy hell... "rigid ideologies". Yeah, like freedom. No place in the modern world for that.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

That was a mistype (were should have been weren't) that I corrected later. I totally agree with you.

I'd have voted for McAffee.

 

[osan]

I'd have voted for McAffee.

I may write him in... if I can.

That, or just stay home. I think I am pretty well over all of this nonsense.

 

[idiom]

Establishment gonna establish

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Weld and Johnson are both establishment puppets, the libertarian party has been sadly infiltrated by globalists.


Based on how fast and far the Libertarian Party is crumbling, they may get their wish. This is why I stress that I am a small l libertarian, usurpers like that may take over but I will never recognize them as libertarian.

The LP periodically feels the practical need to have Presidential candidates whose political credentials are "serious" as far as most people or the MSM would perceive. Being past or present elected to major office (Governor, Congress) satisfies most observers on that front, so that was the main reason the party went for Ron Paul in '88, and Barr or Johnson since 2008. But this credibility shortcut tactic has been proving to be fool's gold in terms of earning better coverage and name recognition---I and my sister still get mostly "Gary who, Bill who?" responses from regular people when raising their names as candidates, despite their being both ex-Governors.

So regardless of how Johnson does, or what damage Weld has done undermining him with pro-Hillary comments, I expect a 'return to purity' come 2020 with the LP selecting a more traditional principled candidate with ideologically 'perfect vision' to make up for the pragmatic choices the party made the last few cycles. There is also talk that the pro-liberty parts of the populist grassroots may elect to try to take over the LP in the next few years, so its candidates are more in line with the entire liberty movement going forward.

 

[anaconda]

Guess who isn't going to the be the LP nominee in '20?

Anyone worthwhile?

 

[anaconda]

 

[devil21]

Anyone worthwhile?

Christie/Giuliani 2020!