Libertarian candidate for Florida Governor 2014 Adrian Wyllie

[OrlandoChris]

The Liberterian party will never win a state or local election. All the average voter sees them as is the party that wants legal heroin and nambla.

That said I voted LP in the last presidential election. It was a protest, I didn't like either major party candidate.

I'm under no illusion their candidate can "easily win" or win at all. I won't help them win that 2% with my time or money either, it's pointless and hopeless. In 40 years they have never won a statewide or nationwide race. I don't see how much clearer it could be, it's not going to happen for them.

You are ridiculous.

 

[R.G]

I wasn't really talking about just voting. I had heavy involvement in mind.

erowe1, Libertarian Adrian Wyllie answered your comment yesterday, "“Voters are tired of the Democratic and Republican duopoly. I am the underdog, and I have a good shot at winning this election,” Wyllie said. “I’m the only honest candidate in this race.”

[h=1]Libertarian’s ‘Brewery Tour’ makes stop in Panama City[/h]

 

[69360]

@ 69360 : Adrian Wyllie has got up to 16% MONTHS before the election, what is this 2% BS you're trying to shovel? Don't understand why a person from Maine would even comment on this Florida issue. We have 3 candidates to choose from, 2 of the 3 have all ready been Governor here and are hated. Both have horrible records. The Republicans don't like their candidate, Democrat's don't like theirs either. Nearly 12% of registered Republicans have declared they are voting for Adrian Wyllie and 14% of Democrats have too. With that, include all the Libertarian party, Constitution party AND the mass majority of the 3rd largest voting block (Independent/NPA) , that adds up to a damn good chance Adrian Wyllie will win. If you had to vote for one of three, Rick Scott (R) (Hitler), Charlie Crist (D) (Obama) OR Adrian Wyllie (L) (Ron Paul), who would you support? If you want to vote for Republicans or Democrats in your state and watch it fall a part, you are free to do so, but be prepared to suffer the results. As for me, I will stand up and fight for my state and my country. I am American, what do you call yourself?

Your guy is going to lose. There is zero chance of victory. If you want to do a protest vote, great go for it. But if you are investing your time and money in a LP candidate and think there is any chance at all of victory or more than low single digit returns you will be extremely depressed after the election.

Here is the real polling-

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2014/governor/fl/florida_governor_scott_vs_crist-3545.html

The leftover 14% is not for your guy as you seem to assume, it's mostly undecided.

You are ridiculous.

No, realistic.


The truth hurts. Hopefully the 2 of you are idealistic kids who haven't learned the realities of politics yet, you kind of come off like that. If you are grown adults believing the LP can win governor of FL, I truly feel sorry for you.

 

[limequat]

Hate to say it guys, 360 is right. I remember being at this same spot 6.5 years ago. I stayed up until 2 AM (with many others on this board) as we watched the results from the NH primary. I firmly believed in my heart-of-hearts that Ron Paul would win. How could any rational person NOT vote for Ron Paul once they heard about him? And we made SURE they knew by waving signs and crashing internet polls and telling anyone who would listen (or not). Besides NH is the Live Free or Die state! It's full of libertarians!

Ron Paul got 7.7% in the 2008 NH primary. The polls were dead on. BUT, the missing ballots! The voting was rigged! But, but...no. This couldn't happen. But it did.

My advice to those of you that believe this Florida libertarian guy has a shot, is to act on it. Spend your time and eating-out money like we all did in 2007. Tell your friends and family.

But when the election comes around and you fight for 5% of the vote, don't skulk away. Take lessons learned and move on to the next battle. Those of us that have been there will pick our battles a little more carefully.

 

[R.G]

Making History in Florida!

[h=1]Crist And Scott Could Make History by Being So Unpopular in Florida[/h]While the national political scene has decayed into polarizedstagnation, Americans’ views of state governments have remained mostly positive. That’s probably part of the reason why governors seem to have an advantage when running for president. Yet in Florida, home to one of the nation’s marquee gubernatorial races, Democrat Charlie Crist and Republican incumbent Rick Scott are teetering on becoming the least-liked pair of candidates for any governor’s race.

 

[CPUd]

He could crack 10%, but he needs about $20 million 6 months ago.

 

[R.G]

He could crack 10%, but he needs about $20 million 6 months ago.

CUPd your guy isn't going to win, sorry.

 

[R.G]

Do you two believe in the easter bunny as well?

Seriously how long have you been involved in politics? The LP has never held ANY statewide office no less national office. If your guy gets lucky and does really well he might get 2%.

69210, did I ever tell you about the TIME I helped Dr. Greg Ganske (R-IA) way back in the pea-picking-past in 1996, right after I enrolled the first tax-free Medical Savings Account (MSA) in the United States? Ya, the tax-free MSA/HSA has been the center-piece of Republican Health Care Reform for the last 20 years. Plus, I'm sharp enough to understand that the tax-free MSA/HSA is also a corner-stone of the Ownership Society(OS). If you know what I mean.

I can't tell you about OrlandoChris because I have never asked him that question. He says I should change my name to TampaBayRG but I say, "NO". I was telling OrlandChris that it certainly would make everybody's life a whole lot easier if he changed his name to OC. We don't have much TIME you know before we take over, just 65 days. I hope good ole OC gets some rest here this holiday weekend, because hez been working like a dog.

 

[R.G]

 

[R.G]

FOX News Propaganda With Monkey With PHD, Dr. Merrill Matthews


Dr. Merrill Matthew says, [FONT=arial, sans-serif]"Costs have gone up $5,500 per family with Obamacare." The TRUTH is, a 30-year-old family with 2 children can get the HSA Bronze plan for $467/month today in Volutia County, Florida. That comes out to $5,604/year. So Matthews thinks it used to be $5,500/year less or $104/year for family coverage. [/FONT] What a Hoze Monster.[FONT=arial, sans-serif] I should call the Institute for Public Policy and ask how much they are spending on Dr. Matthew's insurance. I would bet it is more than what it costs on the exchange. To bad Obama doesn't have anybody that can explain ObamaCare. I'm pretty busy so I can't help him. I will say that getting Richard Simmons to sell ObamaCare was a VERY STUPID move by the Obama Administration. Lucky the Obama Administration is so stupid or we might all be in trouble.

Dr Merrill Matthews - who you jivin' with that Cosmik Debri?
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[Feelgood]

I am no Rick Scott fan, and deplore the opportunist Crist, BUT Wyllie has about as much a chance of being Governor, as Ron Paul does of being President.

I feel much better abstaining and not playing into the delusion that our votes even matter. After two election cycles of watching Ron Paul, I have come to the conclusion, it just doesnt matter anymore. I am more apathetic now, than I was before I knew about Ron Paul. What I wouldn't give to be able to go back in time and choose the blue pill instead. At least then I would be able to live the illusion of being happy.

 

[MelissaWV]

It really helps the cause you guys are here for when you insult the people attempting to point out your flawed logic. Really.

I do think Wyllie will do better than expected (by the bulk of the MSM, for instance) but it would take a catastrophic blizzard in Hell before he actually won, and even then I'm pretty sure there'd be some way of calling for a do-over.

 

[R.G]

It really helps the cause you guys are here for when you insult the people attempting to point out your flawed logic. Really.

I do think Wyllie will do better than expected (by the bulk of the MSM, for instance) but it would take a catastrophic blizzard in Hell before he actually won, and even then I'm pretty sure there'd be some way of calling for a do-over.

Thank you MelissaWV, you are correct we are going to do so much better that what the media is currently reporting. There is so much money in this race it's mind blowing. That last poll was the best that money can buy. You sound exactly like my wife. But, she has agreed to go to the kick-off party at Wyllie Campaign HQ this Saturday night, it's about 5 minutes from our home. She hates politics. She does customer service on the oldest HSAs in the United States. She is smart. She has always said that she wished we could take politics out of the tax-free HSA. I tell her that's like trying to take the red out of ketchup, can't be done yet. I know that as soon as she meets Adrian she is going to immediately fall in love with him, she is DAR, it's in her DNA.

I don't expect anything from the RPF, I have never asked anybody for anything here. I certainly haven't asked for a money bomb. But, I am arranging Adrian to speak to various groups of real estate investors because a guy named Peter Fortunato, a Libertarian, insisted I do that. But I know we are not going to win because of money. Ideas are more valuable than money. So, around 9-11 we are going to spend $499 for an e-release that will go to every newspaper, radio station, 30,000 reporters and more. We are going after Rick Scott. We have 4 million uninsured Floridians and the next Governor should know something about healthcare policy.

You will see, it's going to be fun. As soon as this race is over the very next day the 2016 Presidential race begins. I was a Rand Paul Republican a long time before I became a Wyllie Libertarian. The 1st debate is in my home town, Ames, Iowa, on 8/15/2015. I hope it's Hillary the Democrats choose. I already have Wyllie's endorsement for Rand. Of course Adrian likes Rand, Wyllie is a big Ron Paul supporter and Vise Versa.

 

[OrlandoChris]

The last point I want to make here is, I have a choice between 3, 2 are the type of criminals all of you complain about and say we need to get rid of and 1 is someone who would make a good Governor. I choose the good guy, that's what I can do and will do. If any of you want to vote for one of the two criminals, go at it. As for the ones of you that say that you don't want to do anything, again, go for it. Could you do a favor for all the ones like me that are at least trying, and stop complaining about how bad things are when you sit back and let it happen or even worse, endorse it by voting for criminals. You want all out tyranny? You will have it sooner than you think if you don't get off your ass and at least TRY to do something. You will be just as much to blame as the evil ones.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

The Liberterian party will never win a state or local election.

Inaccurate.

In 40 years they have never won a statewide or nationwide race.

Inaccurate.

 

[erowe1]

You may be a part of the problem. You should be ashamed of yourself. Ask Ron Paul who he would vote for if he lived in Florida, Rick Scott, Charlie Crist or Adrian Wyllie. If you don't like Libertarians, why would you be on a Ron Paul site? Maybe you would fit in more on a NPR or MSNBC site.

I doubt that he'd vote.

How is that being part of the problem anyway?

 

[erowe1]

Inaccurate.

Inaccurate.

If you know those claims to be inaccurate, then would you please name the LP candidates who have ever won any statewide or nationwide races?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Examples, not exhaustive (one would be sufficient):
Adam Dick, Wisconsin State Elections Board
Mariam Luce, New Hampshire State Liquor Commission
John Babiarz, New Hampshire Efficiency in Government Commission

The United States has no nationwide races, other than President and vice-President.

 

[MelissaWV]

Examples, not exhaustive (one would be sufficient):
Adam Dick, Wisconsin State Elections Board
Mariam Luce, New Hampshire State Liquor Commission
John Babiarz, New Hampshire Efficiency in Government Commission

The United States has no nationwide races, other than President and vice-President.

He likely meant for Federal office.

I don't think there will NEVER be an LP Governor, but it seems unlikely that Florida would be the place to break that barrier, particularly now and with this race.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

He likely meant for Federal office.

I don't think there will NEVER be an LP Governor, but it seems unlikely that Florida would be the place to break that barrier, particularly now and with this race.

I certainly agree.

Chris and R.G., while we all appreciate your enthusiasm and contributions I'm sure, having a longer-term perspective would be in order, don't you think? There is more to life than the next election.