Liberland: founding a new libertarian country in Europe

There are already many small countries that are tax havens that are helping create global tax competition amongst governments & increasing freedom in a variety of other ways but yeah, the more the better I guess :D

This is not a tax haven, the "president" calls it a "tax heaven". Taxes are simply voluntary.
I was excited about this idea until I heard that drugs are not allowed. I'm not a big drug taker but if this is true, it's not a libertarian country by any stretch. Might as well just be Dubai. :(
 
This is not a tax haven, the "president" calls it a "tax heaven". Taxes are simply voluntary.
I was excited about this idea until I heard that drugs are not allowed. I'm not a big drug taker but if this is true, it's not a libertarian country by any stretch. Might as well just be Dubai. :(

As I've said before, if he doesn't set a price then the price is zero & the land will attract every nutjob out there & it could become a cesspool of crime. So he'll have to charge a price otherwise he won't be able to provide law & order, & a modern civilized society immediately.

We're highly unlikely to see a "libertarian country" (depending on the subjective definitions) in the near future, we'll have to take one step at a time, & I think any country that increases human freedom compared to the existing countries & systems then that, I think, is a step in the right direction.

We don't live in a perfect world, so there's always a cost involved, even for increasing our freedoms (be it an economic cost or social cost or whatever), it's just a question of people voting with their feet (the only other solution is revolt), to incrementally have the costs lowered by targeting competitive pricing; to that extent, I think, Dubai & many other tax havens are helping bring down the costs. If one cares about freedom of using drugs then there are places in Europe that fit the bill but it's possible that some have higher taxes so as I've said, there's always a cost, may be there will always be, who knows. After all, it may take a long time for the majority of the people to evolve to a level where a vast majority of us see coercion, in all its forms, as immoral & undesirable, who knows if that time will ever come, we can hope for it but as I've said, for the moment, the only thing that we can do is to try to make the best choices based on each of our own individual preferences acting in our own self-interest, & over time, as those who want less taxes patronize tax havens, as those who want freedom of drug-use patronize countries with favorable drug laws, & so on, a market demand is created for every individual "service", & over time, we'll see "costs" (taxes, drug-laws, etc) dropping lower & lower, globally.
 
As I've said before, if he doesn't set a price then the price is zero & the land will attract every nutjob out there & it could become a cesspool of crime. So he'll have to charge a price otherwise he won't be able to provide law & order, & a modern civilized society immediately.

We're highly unlikely to see a "libertarian country" (depending on the subjective definitions) in the near future, we'll have to take one step at a time, & I think any country that increases human freedom compared to the existing countries & systems then that, I think, is a step in the right direction.

We don't live in a perfect world, so there's always a cost involved, even for increasing our freedoms (be it an economic cost or social cost or whatever), it's just a question of people voting with their feet (the only other solution is revolt), to incrementally have the costs lowered by targeting competitive pricing; to that extent, I think, Dubai & many other tax havens are helping bring down the costs. If one cares about freedom of using drugs then there are places in Europe that fit the bill but it's possible that some have higher taxes so as I've said, there's always a cost, may be there will always be, who knows. After all, it may take a long time for the majority of the people to evolve to a level where a vast majority of us see coercion, in all its forms, as immoral & undesirable, who knows if that time will ever come, we can hope for it but as I've said, for the moment, the only thing that we can do is to try to make the best choices based on each of our own individual preferences acting in our own self-interest, & over time, as those who want less taxes patronize tax havens, as those who want freedom of drug-use patronize countries with favorable drug laws, & so on, a market demand is created for every individual "service", & over time, we'll see "costs" (taxes, drug-laws, etc) dropping lower & lower, globally.
0 direct taxes does not mean the cost of living is 0. There could be numerous fees, duties, etc for all I know.
 
Well, the "cost of living" will probably never be zero anywhere at any time (except in communist dreams, of course :D), as people will still have to pay for food, housing & other stuff. So I was talking about the "cost of geo-political residence"; if there isn't any then how does he propose to ensure law & order, which will be necessary to attract "normal" people & businesses (sorry but not convinced on the whole militia thing). Indirect taxes are still taxes so saying taxes would be "optional" seems a little disingenuous but I didn't see any mention of any fees or duties so I assumed there wouldn't be any.
 
Well, the "cost of living" will probably never be zero anywhere at any time (except in communist dreams, of course :D), as people will still have to pay for food, housing & other stuff. So I was talking about the "cost of geo-political residence"; if there isn't any then how does he propose to ensure law & order, which will be necessary to attract "normal" people & businesses (sorry but not convinced on the whole militia thing). Indirect taxes are still taxes so saying taxes would be "optional" seems a little disingenuous but I didn't see any mention of any fees or duties so I assumed there wouldn't be any.

Cost of living is zero because there is nothing to buy there and no money to buy it with. It is an island in a river with a few dirt roads and trees. No buildings or businesses.
 
More important than "Liberland" is the international interest in a libertarian society. Color me impressed.
 
In 2-3 months I will be near (less than 20 km away) Liberland. If I get any free time I will invade it.

Thinking about taking donation from forum members to plant their flags on my newly conquered colony....:D
 
Ep. 440 Liberland: A New Libertarian Country?

Liberland is a burgeoning micronation between Croatia and Serbia, and founded on libertarian principles. By popular demand, we talk to two of its top people in today’s episode.

About the Guests
Vit Jedlicka is the President of the Free Republic of Liberland.
Tom Walls is the Director of the US Office for Liberland.

http://tomwoods.com/podcast/ep-440-liberland-a-new-libertarian-country/

 
Welcome To Liberland: The Tiny Strip Of Land In Europe Where 360,000 People Have Applied For Citizenship
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-...e-where-360000-people-have-applied-citizenshi

If we accepted everyone, we would be larger than Iceland.
– Liberland founder, Vit Jedlicka

If there was ever a sign that people are hungry, starving actually, for freedom and an escape from the corrupt and overbearing global status quo, this is it.

Welcome to the Free Republic of Liberland, seven square kilometers of unclaimed land between Croatia and Serbia, which intends to becomes the world’s newest, and most free, sovereign state.

To prove Ron Paul’s contention that “freedom is popular,” Liberland has already received 360,000 applications for citizenship, including 600 architects.

Want to learn more? Watch this video:



"We will have a chance to establish a country if it's mainly about love and freedom," says Vit Jedlicka, a 31-year-old Czech politician and the founding president of Liberland.

Nestled on a strip of unclaimed land between Croatia and Serbia, Liberland currently exists as a marshy, mosquito-plagued spit of land in the Danube River that has attracted the ire of its neighboring countries. Jedlicka seeks to create an autonomous nation capable of exisiting with the minimum amount of government authority possible.

With a constitution modeled on that of the United States, Liberland has generated interest in more than 360,000 potential citizens and is, says Jedlicka, open to anyone with a "respect for private ownership” who is tolerant of other people and their beliefs regardless of race, ethnicity, orientation or religion. Criminals, communists, Nazis and “extremists” are discouraged from applying.

About 2 minutes long.
 
Liberland: How One Man Plans to Build a New Libertarian Paradise in Europe

When he plunged a flag into the banks of the Danube and declared the birth of the Free Republic of Liberland, Vit Jedlicka was dismissed by governments and media organisations as a joke.

Yet one year and many diplomatic missions later, his vision of a libertarian paradise born on a patch of unwanted land has 400,000 would-be citizens, the backing of a range of political movements around the world and even its own national beer.

Thanks to the efforts of the Croatian border police, Liberland has still technically not got a single inhabitant, and its 7 sq km of boggy wetlands boast just one dilapidated building, an abandoned hunting lodge.

But speaking in an exclusive interview with The Independent, “President” Jedlicka reveals that plans are nearly in place for a group of Liberlanders to break through that police blockade in such numbers “there is nothing they can do to stop it”.

Liberland lies on the Croatia-Serbia border, roughly halfway between Zagreb and Belgrade. A product of a border dispute between the two countries lasting a quarter of a century, it lies on a portion of territory which neither country is willing to claim.

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/04/no_author/liberland-1-year-old/
 
Maybe one day we'll be playing a game called "The Liberland Trail", and I'll die of dysentery on the way to freedom...

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