Lew Rockwell giddy at prospect of Rand's demise

Wilf said:
No, Ron trusted the person, who hired the author of the articles. He only trust Lew becuase Lew was his orginal chief of staff. Ron Paul does not taking care alot about what other people think about him, so that is why the article is published under his name.
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He also still trusts Lew because Lew is a friend and confidant of Ron's. This has been the case for nearly 40 years.
 
TaftFan said:
Yeah, while people try to fix things through the political process, it must be nice for Lew to sit back at the Irrelevancy Institute and throw jabs at the good people and bones to the jokers.
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LOL@ internet tough-guy with no success record (that we know of) trying to insult one of the most influential and productive libertarians of the past century. :D
 
Rockwell posted today that Rand is 3% in the polls. What a desperate liar.
 
TaftFan said:
Rockwell posted today that Rand is 3% in the polls. What a desperate liar.
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Rasmussen's most recent national poll of "likely Republican voters" (conducted July 26-27) found Rand Paul at 3%:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...016/trump_is_well_ahead_as_first_debate_looms

Complain about it if you like. Piss and moan because Rockwell didn't cite a higher number from some other poll, if you feel you must.

But Rockwell is not lying here ("desperately" or otherwise). And if you haven't figured out yet that Rockwell is not enamoured of Rand - or if you think the fact that he isn't will come as some kind of revelation to anyone - then I don't know what to tell you. Nevertheless, I will charitably refrain from characterizing you in like manner to your characterization of Rockwell as a "desperate liar." (You're welcome.)

(Also, I am still wondering why you care what Rockwell says in any case. Why obsess so over someone you sneer at as "irrelevant" ... ?)

heavenlyboy34 said:
That's nowhere on LRC. Links or you're full of it.
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It's from Rockwell's Facebook feed. Here's what he said:

Lew Rockwell said:
It would be so much easier for the establishment if Ron Paul fibbed for the state. Bill Kristol, Fox, and the NYT would herald him. Many fat fees would find their way into his bank account.

Instead, this uncompromising gentleman just won’t prevaricate. So WaPo is condemning him for mentioning, in a DC speech on “the collapse of Greece’s economy, the Cold War, the military draft, the works of Frederic Bastiat, and the many faults of the Federal Reserve,” the two presidential candidates now catching fire, Trump and Sanders. Ron doesn’t like either one, but clearly his observation is correct. He didn’t mention his son, who has dropped to 3% in the polls, as on fire. It’s so much easier to be a fabricator. They’ll even like you at WaPo.

[link to story: hxxp://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/07/31/ron-paul-say-two-candidates-are-dominating-2016-rand-paul-isnt-one-of-them/]
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"Polls" is plural. Rand is not 3% in the polls, he is 3% in one poll. A huge difference.
 
TaftFan said:
"Polls" is plural. Rand is not 3% in the polls, he is 3% in one poll. A huge difference.
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Seriously? This is your basis for calling Rockwell a "desperate liar?" :rolleyes: (Someone's desperate, all right ...)

But fine. I'll play along.

Rand was 3% in last week's Florida Republican presidential primary poll.

There. "Polls." Plural. (Now tell me how it somehow doesn't "count" ...)
 
there probably is panic at the campaign, and not just Rand's. Trump has upended everyone else. no one other than Trump can be satisfied at their numbers.
 
Ok so what Ive gotten from this thread:

Lew Rockwell gets demonized for simply repeating facts that other people are reporting,
And we're still not supposed to judge Rand by any of the things he actually says with his own lips.
 
fisharmor said:
Ok so what Ive gotten from this thread:

Lew Rockwell gets demonized for simply repeating facts that other people are reporting,
And we're still not supposed to judge Rand by any of the things he actually says with his own lips.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to fisharmor again.
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:( Sorry, bro.
 
fisharmor said:
Ok so what Ive gotten from this thread:

Lew Rockwell gets demonized for simply repeating facts that other people are reporting,
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Lew is posting things to intentionally sour people on Rand, thus he is hurting the cause.



And national polls do NOT matter in a Presidential election at all
 
Lew Rockwell and Lew Rockwell.com is not even worth arguing about. They are irrelevant to campaign and irrelevant to discourse. Ron's retired now and they're too extreme to matter much to policy makers or politicians (something they prefer to wallow in. Fine, let them wallow).

I've been critical enough of what's Rand been doing I'm sure some are asking "Okay, what's your solution?" My answer is Rand's biggest opponent is not the other candidates, it's fear. Because it's fear which drives things like militarism, the "War on Crime" or the "War on Poverty" or "War on Women", racism, violence all the things which ill the county is largely based around fear. In fact we are the Republic of Fear. Rand has to run against Fear, because if you take fear out of the equation you'll it becomes surprisingly easily to have a smaller government which isn't set up against "fear" or to protect the populous from all the fears pumped up by our government, the culture and the media. Didn't FDR the only thing we have to fear is fear itself? Yeah, it's the same damn thing.

All ideologies have some aspect of the state, whether national or local, they want controlled, because the oppress them, largely because of people's fears. You can run a broad-based campaign against fear in this manner: A non-interventionist foreign policy, ending the war on drugs, reducing the national security state, take the savings and invest in people, bring justice back to the justice system! end the crony capitalist buddy system! I believe all these things can be combined into a political program which can be popular if campaigned on. That popularity can then be registered in the polls and they push Rand to the top the party establishment will join the bandwagon because they want to back a winner.

That's how I do it. And even Rand did a quarter of what I propose it would serve him better than what he's doing right now, which is basically nothing other than showing he's no different than the rest of the GOP field. And if there's nothing different, then his five percent or six percent in the polls isn't going to attract anyone new and that's exactly what he'll receive when the actual voting begins.
 
Matt Collins said:
And national polls do NOT matter in a Presidential election at all
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This is absolute nonsense. You are overlooking the enormous impact of polls - NATIONAL polls - in this current election. Rand will be at the first debate, but he is no cinch to be on the stage for any of the debates afterward. And if he drops off of that platform, it is OVER.

He needs to bend his trendline back up, NOW, or there will never be an Iowa or New Hampshire.
 
DevilsAdvocate said:
Lew has issues. What's wrong with this guy? He seems slightly crazy to me, just in everything he does and nearly everything he says.
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Nothing's wrong with him and he's not "crazy". What has he said that would indicate he's crazy? Weather on not you agree with him is one thing but he's certainly not mentally ill.
 
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