Let's see how far this tax protestor/ evader goes with arguments

[onlyrp]

This is not the 1996 book. This was out in 2003 and by people who were professionals and filed as such and I personally witnessed the methods and use of proper sections to work just as the book and IRS law stated. The letter he got back was fairly decent as well. Have you wondered how someone who has hundreds of millions file for 38 dollars tax to be paid?
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Code-Peter-Eric-Hendrickson/dp/0974393606

Rev9

interesting, first of all, why would the method change from 1996 to 2003, if the law hasn't changed?

Having money does not subject you to tax per se, EARNING IT DOES.

 

[onlyrp]

You never answered my question--If they enacted a law saying your must stand on your head Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday or else you will be fined $200.00 if you do not obey--would that be acceptable?

And what do you mean by legal training? What is it exactly are they training for?

I would dislike it, and I would have a hard time obeying it due to my personal state, but then I'd have a hard time paying $200 as well. I wouldn't deny the law applies to me, I would just say I disagree with it morally, and the fact its a law forces me to accept the consequences, even if I don't like it. Does that answer you?

By legal training I mean having been to law school, or passed a bar exam, licensed to practice law.

 

[onlyrp]

File properly and they will send you a cheque and a nice letter to accompany it. I have seen it happen and this guy and his wife are a straight laced and law abiding as they come. Filing improperly and contesting it from any of those ground is considered dishonorable under contract law as there is a lie in the chain of evidence of source of funds and of course they keep the funds in a jurisdiction they can confiscate under. Identifying and categorizing source of funds is primary in the chain so it can be filed properly.

Rev9

is it possible they are just stupid at first, learned the code later? Have YOU DONE IT ? I'm not interested in hearsay if there's better evidence to be seen, and why don't millionaires do this every day?

 

[thoughtomator]

And you're not amazed that the "land of the free" has prisons? Why do you assume you know better about the law than law enforcement, and somehow no lawyer, judge, trained professional in law agrees with you? Ahh yes, they're all conspiring to screw you! Somehow you're the only enlightened person in this, and people have been duped for 100 years if not 220.

That's a very strange tack from a Paul supporter. Isn't Paul exposing that we've been duped on the Fed for 100 years? Wasn't the income tax put in place that very same year?

 

[onlyrp]

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual. " ~Jefferson

he doesn't recognize the law, so how can you expect your rights to be recognized?

 

[onlyrp]

That's a very strange tack from a Paul supporter. Isn't Paul exposing that we've been duped on the Fed for 100 years? Wasn't the income tax put in place that very same year?

Ron is not saying that the Federal Reserve or Income tax , were either fraudulently or illegally enacted, but rather, legal but immoral, or legal but now found to be disastrous. The fact people have not contested it doesn't mean its illegal, it just means people havent tried to legally contest it (and nothing has ever stopped them from doing it).

 

[Revolution9]

interesting, first of all, why would the method change from 1996 to 2003, if the law hasn't changed?

Having money does not subject you to tax per se, EARNING IT DOES.

It is a different book altogether. There are a dozen or more Cracking The Code books out there in almost as many categories. I had read the first which was theory and in a hardbound gold letter leather bound edition. It was full of documents and history. This one is a professional breakdown of the IRS law using their terminology and references from the Tax Code itself. It specifically shows section and verse defining the 22 categories. Only certain categories of earnings are taxable according to the IRS. This book makes it straight forward to find that and verify the info yourself. What you do with it is your business. I witness that it works from the man who gave me the book. The refund cheques were nothing to sneeze at. He was a hospital worker and she was a teacher IIRC.

Rev9

 

[thoughtomator]

Paying income tax is still legally voluntary. As in you don't actually have to do it, by law.

However, the law does not protect you against IRS persecution, so de facto it's not really voluntary at all. But by law, it is.

Now with the Fed, it's the same thing. Their mandate is for stable prices. Yet they've devalued the dollar 98% since they took control of it.

 

[onlyrp]

It is a different book altogether. There are a dozen or more Cracking The Code books out there in almost as many categories. I had read the first which was theory and in a hardbound gold letter leather bound edition. It was full of documents and history. This one is a professional breakdown of the IRS law using their terminology and references from the Tax Code itself. It specifically shows section and verse defining the 22 categories. Only certain categories of earnings are taxable according to the IRS. This book makes it straight forward to find that and verify the info yourself. What you do with it is your business. I witness that it works from the man who gave me the book. The refund cheques were nothing to sneeze at. He was a hospital worker and she was a teacher IIRC.

Rev9

again I am not interested in hearsay, when you can get them to tell us here, or tell us yourself, I'll take a closer look.

 

[donnay]

I would dislike it, and I would have a hard time obeying it due to my personal state, but then I'd have a hard time paying $200 as well. I wouldn't deny the law applies to me, I would just say I disagree with it morally, and the fact its a law forces me to accept the consequences, even if I don't like it. Does that answer you?

No excuses, it's the law you must obey or else be fined $200.00! --Oh you don't have it, we will put leans on your property and if it accumulates (with fines and penalties) if you do not pay up, we will imprison you. My point is, they make up laws everyday which are unconstitutional. If they are not challenged by citizens more insane laws are enacted. When people acquiesce to unconstitutional laws they will continue to, as they have done for over a hundred years, enacted unconstitutional laws.

The law schools make their students think the Constitution needs interpretations. It doesn't. But if you keep on telling a lie, over and over again, people believe it. Besides it is done by design to use legalese to convolute the rule of law. Anyone can research, study and understand. It doesn't take a slip of paper, and mortgaging ones life to know the rule of law.

 

[onlyrp]

Paying income tax is still legally voluntary. As in you don't actually have to do it, by law.

However, the law does not protect you against IRS persecution, so de facto it's not really voluntary at all. But by law, it is.

Now with the Fed, it's the same thing. Their mandate is for stable prices. Yet they've devalued the dollar 98% since they took control of it.

so do you do it? Oh wait, as long as you admit it's de facto not voluntary, I don't care what you say about the law.

In essence, I don't care about the law, I care about what people with power say about it.

The point about the Fed devaluing the dollar by 98% is pointless, because a person in 1913 who owned either a house or a land does not now own 50 of them, or else land would be all taken up, so just what can you do with the information of "it's devalued by 98%", please show me. Americans are not 2% weatlhy compared to the world either...so what really does that number help us with?

 

[onlyrp]

No excuses, it's the law you must obey or else be fined $200.00! --Oh you don't have it, we will put leans on your property and if it accumulates (with fines and penalties) if you do not pay up, we will imprison you. My point is, they make up laws everyday which are unconstitutional. If they are not challenged by citizens more insane laws are enacted. When people acquiesce to unconstitutional laws they they will continue to, as they have done for over a hundred years, enact unconstitutional laws.

The law schools make their students think the Constitution needs interpretations. It doesn't. But if you keep on telling a lie, over and over again, people believe it. Besides it is done by design to use legalese to convolute the rule of law. Anyone can research, study and understand. It doesn't take a slip of paper, and mortgaging ones life to know the rule of law.

legally challenging it is a great, and you are right, no excuses.

so the Supreme Court doesn't need to exist according to you, right?

 

[onlyrp]

Author of cracking the code lost his case, enough said.

http://politicalclassdismissed.com/?p=1027

 

[Czolgosz]

Who is our "ACLU" of liberty?

 

[donnay]

legally challenging it is a great, and you are right, no excuses.

so the Supreme Court doesn't need to exist according to you, right?

The Supreme Court is there to enforce that the government follows the rule of law--nothing more, nothing less. If they did their job, we wouldn't be in the mess we currently are in with all the unconstitutional laws that have been enacted. The problem is, the corruption within the system is bringing all of this down upon our heads--tyranny! The only way we can fight it is to protest it, as it is our first amendment right. Then if they refuse to listen, we always have our second amendment right to exercise. However, I would hope it doesn't come down to it.

 

[Czolgosz]

The Supreme Court is there to enforce that the government follows the rule of law--nothing more, nothing less. If they did their job, we wouldn't be in the mess we currently are in with all the unconstitutional laws that have been enacted. The problem is, the corruption within the system is bringing all of this down upon our heads--tyranny! The only way we can fight it is to protest it, as it is our first amendment right. Then if they refuse to listen, we always have our second amendment right to exercise. However, I would hope it doesn't come down to it.

The Supreme Court "enforces?" I thought they settle disputes, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Danke]

This is not the 1996 book. This was out in 2003 and by people who were professionals and filed as such and I personally witnessed the methods and use of proper sections to work just as the book and IRS law stated. The letter he got back was fairly decent as well. Have you wondered how someone who has hundreds of millions file for 38 dollars tax to be paid?
http://www.amazon.com/Cracking-Code-Peter-Eric-Hendrickson/dp/0974393606

Rev9

For the latest edition the book may be a little cheaper here: http://losthorizons.com/Cracking_the_Code.htm

Also, a free pdf version: http://losthorizons.com/CtCforFree.pdf

And, a site with loads of tax information: www.taxresponseteam.org/

 

[donnay]

The Supreme Court "enforces?" I thought they settle disputes, correct me if I'm wrong.

They preside there to rule whether laws enacted and challenged are unconstitutional or not. The Supreme Court was set up to keep the checks and balances of government.

 

[onlyrp]

They preside there to rule whether laws enacted and challenged are unconstitutional or not. The Supreme Court was set up to keep the checks and balances of government.

how is that not intepreting the Constitution? Or specifically, interpreting the law and judge whether it is constitutional based on their best understanding?

 

[onlyrp]

For the latest edition the book may be a little cheaper here: http://losthorizons.com/Cracking_the_Code.htm

Also, a free pdf version: http://losthorizons.com/CtCforFree.pdf

And, a site with loads of tax information: www.taxresponseteam.org/

thanks! have you personally used this information to your advantage? I don't doubt you've read this book, I want to know how useful has it been to a person with first hand experience. I'd appreciate it if you can share with us.