Let's kill Wal-Mart

1.2 million consumers would be a good start.

Also, once we are all supporting each other, then we will be able to grow fantastically.

Like spitting in the ocean.<IMHO> Do you know how many customers WalMart has? WalMart has CLOSED stores with more customers than that. :D

People need to know that there really will be a tangible price for selling your soul to the devil, and that will arrive as complete fascism in America if we don't find a way out of this ugly situation soon.

Keep telling that to the voters. LOUD, CLEAR and OFTEN. ;)
 
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Heh, you are implying that I am quixotic...

Well, I think you are a giant, and I am going to slay you I guess...

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I love Walmart for their efficiency and effectiveness. I hate protectionism, and I hate the minimum wage. Eliminate the minimum wage and you've made Walmart's current business model much less appealing.

Heh, I'm sure that IG Farbin made efficient use of its concentration camp victim/slave laborers as well.

I'm not sure where I stand on things like free trade and protectionism, I have to learn more. I know I'm against minimum wage too though.


The only real problem I have with Walmart is that as a company it often encourages employees to seek (and provides information for) state welfare/medicare/etc. aid instead of paying decent wages and benefits. So it's an extremely successful company that is subsidized by taxpayers.

That and the Walton family, worth tens of billions of dollars, gives hardly anything at all to charity. That's not nearly as offensive to me as the eagnerness to tap into taxpayers instead of their bottom line, though.

Yeah, encouraging employees to collect state welfare sounds sleazy. I think taking advantage of Chinese slave labor is sleazy too though.



I hate WalMart because it's always so crowded. I try to find what I need at KMart instead. ;)

But the quoted post is pretty much true. WalMart is just running a very successful business model and they obviously fulfill a huge consumer need for inexpensive products.

Plus that $4 prescription plan they started (now copied by other retail drug outlets) was a great idea. If that isn't free market showing government how it's done, somebody tell me why not.

The real problem is the policies, both gov't and private, that sent all these manufacturing jobs overseas where items can be produced far more cheaply. Ask the big labor unions why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who voted for NAFTA why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who continue to give China "most favored nation" trading status why American companies can't compete.


Wal-Mart takes advantage of Chinese slave labor to provide cheep products.

May not be illegal, but it's probably immoral, and we are going to have to pay the piper one day, as long as we continue to sell our soul to this system.

$4 prescription plan that works? Sounds like successful free market capitalism, I think that's good.

I happen to agree with you that trade Unions grow to a point where they kill their host, and that's not good for anyone. If a company like that dies, then the free market has spoken, but when Lee Iacoka get's a government bailout because of it, then that's a government policy that hurts us all by inflating our dollar.

Is NAFTA another government policy that hurts us all? Probably I guess, but I do need to learn more about that.

Like I said, the point of this whole project is to use our ideals to create a competitive market place, so that we can use it to effect political change.

Ultimately it's the Fed that we need to do away with, and perhaps NAFTA too, I don't know for sure yet.

But I do know that we need to organize ourselves into an effective socio/economic/political machine, so that we can have the power to effect the changes that we need to make.
 
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What LAWS ( so called ) is WalMart breaking? :rolleyes:


Well, I never said it was breaking any laws, but that does not mean it's good for America to be spending all of its money there.

What laws do the masses break when they vote for Obama or McCain?

How about the law of "don't piss into the wind"?
 
Wal-Mart takes advantage of Chinese slave labor to provide cheep products.

May not be illegal, but it's probably immoral, and we are going to have to pay the piper one day, as long as we continue to sell our soul to this system.

Yes we will. But trying to kill WalMart for successfully working the system we all live in does not fix the problem. Fix the real problem and WalMart will find itself with a lot more competition. The consumers will naturally cut WalMart down to size if and when they have more realistic choices.

I happen to agree with you that trade Unions grow to a point where they kill their host, and that's not good for anyone. If a company like that dies, then the free market has spoken, but when Lee Iacoka get's a government bailout because of it, then that's a government policy that hurts us all by inflating our dollar.

Exactly. This is a prime example of government policy being the real problem, not the business that takes advantage of what government makes available.

Is NAFTA another government policy that hurts us all? Probably I guess, but I do need to learn more about that.

Yes, NAFTA disguises itself as "free trade" but actually kills real free trade by favoring certain big companies and making trade with the US difficult or impossible for small or new businesses. Definitely learn more about this and other things people have mentioned in this thread. WalMart is a very visible target but it isn't the root cause of what is wrong.

Like I said, the point of this whole project is to use our ideals to create a competitive market place, so that we can use it to effect political change.

Nothing wrong with that.
 
Well, I never said it was breaking any laws, but that does not mean it's good for America to be spending all of its money there.

As Peter Schiff might point out, what's the true nature of this "money" we're sending over to China? In reality, China is giving away everything that they export. That's a pretty sweet deal for the United States if you ask me.
 
Well, I never said it was breaking any laws, but that does not mean it's good for America to be spending all of its money there.

What laws do the masses break when they vote for Obama or McCain?

How about the law of "don't piss into the wind"?
And I didn't say that you did. That's why I asked the question. :) ALL it's money? :confused:

None, the system actually encourages it. If voting ever really changed ANYTHING, it would be illegal.<IMHO> ;)

Yeah, how about that? Not really a good idea.<IMHO> But that sure doesn't seem to stop the "true believer" dedicated voters. :rolleyes:
 
You can blame Walmart for using Chinese made goods, but then you'd also have to blame those that shop there. That being said, sometimes I go to Walmart (Target in my area) and I always look for American made products, if available. Typically, they can't be found at all (even at the higher price I expect), that's what I don't like. The problem I see with cheap Chinese products is the quality is cheap as well. So usually, I'll just stick to items like toiletries that would be the same, no matter where I shop.


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As Peter Schiff might point out, what's the true nature of this "money" we're sending over to China? In reality, China is giving away everything that they export. That's a pretty sweet deal for the United States if you ask me.

I'm pretty sure that Americans could make better use of this money by buying made in America products, and also using it to support political campaigns that are going to change the root causes of diseases like Mal-Mart.

I'm just trying to provide more options, so that maybe we can start doing this easily en-mass.
 
I WAS agreeing with YOU. DUH!! Get a clue. :rolleyes: What does "qft" mean?

Oh, I looked up "qft" and all I could find was "quit fucking talking".

Since you quoted my post, I thought you meant me.

Ok, misunderstanding, I apologize I guess.

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