Let's kill Wal-Mart

Petar

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1.2 million people in America voted for Ron Paul, and if we all support each other economically, then we can start putting an actual dent into the exporter of Chinese fascism that is the Wal-Mart leviathan.

www.freemarketforliberty.com provides an easy way for us to do that, and once we create a thriving liberty oriented market place, then it will be easy to continuously funnel a portion of that circulating currency towards revived money bombs for liberty, because a tool will be added that will allow listing owners to show how much money they have donated to liberty candidates.

Then it will also be easy for us to keep growing our movement, because people will join just for the economic benefits, and then it will be easy for us to educate them as well.

So please support this initiative by listing your liberty supporting business today.
 
1.2 million people in America voted for Ron Paul, and if we all support each other economically, then we can start putting an actual dent into the exporter of Chinese fascism that is the Wal-Mart leviathan.

www.freemarketforliberty.com provides an easy way for us to do that, and once we create a thriving liberty oriented market place, then it will be easy to continuously funnel a portion of that circulating currency towards revived money bombs for liberty, because a tool will be added that will allow listing owners to show how much money they have donated to liberty candidates.

Then it will also be easy for us to keep growing our movement, because people will join just for the economic benefits, and then it will be easy for us to educate them as well.

So please support this initiative by listing your liberty supporting business today.

People want cheap products so they can buy even MORE stuff.
I personally shop at Walmart regularly because well, there is no other place to shop. I could go to Sears but I can't afford their stuff. So, Walmart or Kmart it is.
If you have children (and I have many), Walmart is a savior on your budget.
 
NO! Cause then I would be out of a job. And seriously, if they only sold American goods, which are loads more expensive, then no one would be able to afford to buy anything.

The rest is OK though.
 
NO! Cause then I would be out of a job. And seriously, if they only sold American goods, which are loads more expensive, then no one would be able to afford to buy anything.

The rest is OK though.

Same with me! NO jobs in Utah, Walmart though was hiring. Unless someone here can pay me to stay home then I need a job.
 
what's wrong with wallmart?

by attacking wallmart, you're attacking a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. the fact that America can trade paper dollars for the import of real goods that can be sold for cheap in wallmart is a good thing for the time being. unfortunately, that system will come crashing down because it's not sustainable... so this is what you need to be attacking... not wallmart. they're just running a business, and they run the business very well. if you want America to start to produce things, they can't have the ability to print paper dollars instead of producing real goods.
 
I just signed up my friend's and I woodworking business we are starting up, waiting the addition of woodworking to the listing though.
 
Let's kill Wal-Mart

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I love Walmart for their efficiency and effectiveness. I hate protectionism, and I hate the minimum wage. Eliminate the minimum wage and you've made Walmart's current business model much less appealing.
 
The only real problem I have with Walmart is that as a company it often encourages employees to seek (and provides information for) state welfare/medicare/etc. aid instead of paying decent wages and benefits. So it's an extremely successful company that is subsidized by taxpayers.

That and the Walton family, worth tens of billions of dollars, gives hardly anything at all to charity. That's not nearly as offensive to me as the eagnerness to tap into taxpayers instead of their bottom line, though.
 
what's wrong with wallmart?

by attacking wallmart, you're attacking a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. the fact that America can trade paper dollars for the import of real goods that can be sold for cheap in wallmart is a good thing for the time being. unfortunately, that system will come crashing down because it's not sustainable... so this is what you need to be attacking... not wallmart. they're just running a business, and they run the business very well. if you want America to start to produce things, they can't have the ability to print paper dollars instead of producing real goods.

I hate WalMart because it's always so crowded. I try to find what I need at KMart instead. ;)

But the quoted post is pretty much true. WalMart is just running a very successful business model and they obviously fulfill a huge consumer need for inexpensive products.

Plus that $4 prescription plan they started (now copied by other retail drug outlets) was a great idea. If that isn't free market showing government how it's done, somebody tell me why not.

The real problem is the policies, both gov't and private, that sent all these manufacturing jobs overseas where items can be produced far more cheaply. Ask the big labor unions why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who voted for NAFTA why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who continue to give China "most favored nation" trading status why American companies can't compete.
 
The only real problem I have with Walmart is that as a company it often encourages employees to seek (and provides information for) state welfare/medicare/etc. aid instead of paying decent wages and benefits. So it's an extremely successful company that is subsidized by taxpayers.

That and the Walton family, worth tens of billions of dollars, gives hardly anything at all to charity. That's not nearly as offensive to me as the eagnerness to tap into taxpayers instead of their bottom line, though.

Their money, their choice. I imagine that most of their wealth is tied up in WalMart stock. ;)
 
I hate WalMart because it's always so crowded. I try to find what I need at KMart instead. ;)

But the quoted post is pretty much true. WalMart is just running a very successful business model and they obviously fulfill a huge consumer need for inexpensive products.

Plus that $4 prescription plan they started (now copied by other retail drug outlets) was a great idea. If that isn't free market showing government how it's done, somebody tell me why not.

The real problem is the policies, both gov't and private, that sent all these manufacturing jobs overseas where items can be produced far more cheaply. Ask the big labor unions why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who voted for NAFTA why American companies can't compete. Ask the politicians who continue to give China "most favored nation" trading status why American companies can't compete.

"Nobody goes there anymore, because it's always so crowded." -- Yogi Berra

:D
 
Dream on. Ron Paul voters are a rounding error to WalMart. :D

1.2 million consumers would be a good start.

Also, once we are all supporting each other, then we will be able to grow fantastically.



People want cheap products so they can buy even MORE stuff.
I personally shop at Walmart regularly because well, there is no other place to shop. I could go to Sears but I can't afford their stuff. So, Walmart or Kmart it is.
If you have children (and I have many), Walmart is a savior on your budget.

Fair enough.

Buy inexpensive products, support your family, I get the picture.

But its also a double edged sword.

Americans spending all of their money at Mal-Mart supports the direction that this country is moving towards Chinese style fascism.

What we really need is a way to bring manufacturing back to the United States.

Also, supporting businesses that will donate towards liberty candidates will create extra value for your purchases as well.

The goal of this project is to give you more options in the market place, so that hopefully soon you can make these kinds of purchases for your family as well.

I think that if we try and support each other as much as possible, then that will help us to be more competitive with Wal-Mart as well, so hopefully you'll be able to afford these options.




NO! Cause then I would be out of a job. And seriously, if they only sold American goods, which are loads more expensive, then no one would be able to afford to buy anything.

The rest is OK though.

Well, I don't want you out of a job per se, but I do hope that liberty supporting organizations can grow to defeat Wal-Mart in the market place, so that you can find work at one such place then.

Yes, Wal-Mart is more competitive because it sells slave made products, everyone knows that, and that's what I want us to be able to defeat.




Everybody HATES WalMart, except the customers. :D


People need to know that there really will be a tangible price for selling your soul to the devil, and that will arrive as complete fascism in America if we don't find a way out of this ugly situation soon.




Same with me! NO jobs in Utah, Walmart though was hiring. Unless someone here can pay me to stay home then I need a job.

I feel your pain, and like I said, I do hope that liberty supporting organizations can grow to defeat Wal-Mart in the market place, so that you can find work at one such place then.



what's wrong with wallmart?

by attacking wallmart, you're attacking a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. the fact that America can trade paper dollars for the import of real goods that can be sold for cheap in wallmart is a good thing for the time being. unfortunately, that system will come crashing down because it's not sustainable... so this is what you need to be attacking... not wallmart. they're just running a business, and they run the business very well. if you want America to start to produce things, they can't have the ability to print paper dollars instead of producing real goods.

Well, I do agree with you that the funny money/Federal Reserve System is at the heart of Americas economic woes, but I also believe that America loses an important part of itself when it chooses Chinese slave labor for made in America products.

Obviously it would have been nice if we could have done away with the Fed a long time ago, then maybe we would not even be having this problem, but right now I am just trying to find a way for us to cope.

I think if we start using our federal reserve notes to build an economy that supports liberty and will abolish the Fed, then that will be very helpful.
 
Their money, their choice. I imagine that most of their wealth is tied up in WalMart stock. ;)

Of course...but you can't defend their practice of forcing taxpayers to subsidize their inadequate wages and benefits. Sure that's a problem with the system as a whole, but Walmart has no qualms with exploiting it.
 
Of course...but you can't defend their practice of forcing taxpayers to subsidize their inadequate wages and benefits. Sure that's a problem with the system as a whole, but Walmart has no qualms with exploiting it.
Of course I don't. I don't think WalMart is FORCING anybody to do anything. That's the government's job. ;)
 
Protectionism: That last union wage increase ($57.33 per hour) with health care benefits requires all consumers avoid those low cost stores selling stuff made in china (for $.48 per day). Yea, they should pay a US company 30x more for the same stuff... YOU pay more so I can keep my job.

Ain't' it grand?

Forcing taxpayer subsidy is just the gravy on top if "it".
 
If Dr. Paul's reasonable tariffs were imposed- particularly against trade partners wildly out of trade balance, along with strict enforcement of laws pertaining to employment/cash contracting w/undocumented here, then simultaneously there would be a rise in US mfg jobs coinciding with a much stronger demand for unskilled labor. These would produce much better low-end wages due to market forces working their magic, more than offsetting price increases. The working poor would benefit the most; the non-working poor would be looking at much stronger incentive to work and much greater opportunity to do exactly that. Median level labor reward would feel an upward push right along with it. Coincidentally the demand for legal and documented immigration would be stronger, as would the demand to return non-violent Americans held unproductively in incarcerated state back into the labor market economy.

The rampant rise in military deployment overseas, both private as well as US service, US incarceration rates, trade imbalance, unchecked flow of illegal immigation- these phenomenon coincide with one another and are intertwined as symtoms/causes of one another. In a very real sense, whether planned that way or not, the flood of illegals serves the purpose of replacement workers for millions of incarcerated/deployed Americans removed from the economy as productive individuals here. That removal spurs both the demand for the immigrant, legal or otherwise, as well as the need to lean more heavily on the products of overseas labor and drive our external debt deeper into the red.
 
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