Let this be a lesson to those that insist on broadcasting their entire lives to the world.

[dannno]

He'll probably never like spicy food the rest of his life. Or cold pools.

Either that or he won't be able to get in the mood without one or the other.

 

[Anti Federalist]

AF's point is that just because you think it's fine, it doesn't mean that the state will allow you to keep your kid.

+rep for explaining my point, LoL.

I have no comment on the child rearing aspect of it.

Frankly, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

Regardless, and again, the bigger point is that, in a fit of "Truman show" narcissism, these people plastered their private lives all over the media for 15 minutes of fame, and now will have their family ripped apart and somebody will probably end up going to jail.

People have not yet come to understand that we live in tyrannical times, the Sword of Damocles hangs over each and every one of our heads.

Instead of being smashed by the system over petty stunts like this, take a stand for freedom.

I'd go to jail for that.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Khalid Sheik Mohammed says hello.

I don't agree with these parenting tactics, but it's kind of ironic for the state to make an issue of it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

AF's point is that just because you think it's fine, it doesn't mean that the state will allow you to keep your kid.

Understood. The government would love to be in control of children like the UK parliament has control over the uk children.Spanking is outlawed in the U.K.

 

[amyre]

While I TOTALLY (really, really, really) disagree with this type of parenting, it is sad and unfortunate that these kids will probably end up in an even worse situation within the foster care system. The parents were stupid on so many levels.....and once again, the innocent party will pay the greatest price.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don't agree with these parenting tactics, but it's kind of ironic for the state to make an issue of it.

I don't know the background of why the boy was in trouble with the public school as a basis of argument therefore I cannot say much about the tactics of punishing the boy for lying. When I was a kid I use to lie to my mom about misbehaving in school because I was constantly having to defend myself by fist fighting. My mom got very angry with me but thankfully my father knew it wasn't my fault and told me never to let a person bully me or punch me even if the teacher told me to.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

While I TOTALLY (really, really, really) disagree with this type of parenting, it is sad and unfortunate that these kids will probably end up in an even worse situation within the foster care system. The parents were stupid on so many levels.....and once again, the innocent party will pay the greatest price.

I really don't see how chili in the mouth is bad. If I talked back to my grandfather I got chili in the mouth sometimes, if I was really bad I got the belt. If I behaved he sometimes rewarded me and arm wrestled me everyday after I finished eating my food that my grandmother cooked. I don't see anything wrong with chili peppers in the mouth.Maybe the u.s. has forgotten its real roots and how tough and rough americans use to be. I have been slapped in the face for talking back to my mom when I was younger, and she is the most gentle and loving person around. I think the u.s. is so use to spoiling the children that it blinds them from disciplining their kids into humbleness because of fear of being labeled a "bad parent".

 

[amyre]

I really don't see how chili in the mouth is bad. If I talked back to my grandfather I got chili in the mouth sometimes, if I was really bad I got the belt. If I behaved he sometimes rewarded me and arm wrestled me everyday after I finished eating my food that my grandmother cooked. I don't see anything wrong with chili peppers in the mouth.Maybe the u.s. has forgotten its real roots and how tough and rough americans use to be. I have been slapped in the face for talking back to my mom when I was younger, and she is the most gentle and loving person around. I think the u.s. is so use to spoiling the children that it blinds them from disciplining their kids into humbleness because of fear of being labeled a "bad parent".

^^That is probably a debate for a different thread. The bottom line is that government has a track record of making situations worse, not better, and these kids are likely to have been better off if their parents wouldn't have made such poor parenting and broadcasting choices.

 

[DamianTV]

It isnt just the Government that makes things worse, Broadcasting ones life also seems to bring out the worst in people as well. Does anyone think those idiots on Jersey Shore or any of those Reality TV shows would actually act that way? I think they are trying to capitalize on sensationalizing behavior involving mundane situations. Thus, I dont think that the Lack of Privacy would have stopped many many cases of Real Child Abuse, not just Hot Sauce in the Mouth Child Abuse, and could be inspiring those who know they have no chance of being the best parent into being the worst possible parents.

 

[asurfaholic]

I don't think parents should be allowed to verbally or physically punish kids. But I do understand that most would not support this type of parenting. I do think though if the kid can not defend himself someone else should come to his defense.

So, using your ideals, if you see me spanking my daughter hard on the butt - you would feel justified in coming to her defense? Maybe not directely, but indirectly (reporting it to school officials, etc)? Then the whole issue gets blown out of proportion because someone reported child abuse, the parent gets victimized by an out of control system of bureaucracy, and the child loses the lesson of disipline, because instead of them learning right from wrong, they learn that mommy and daddy aren't really in control of them.

I was abused as a young child. Physical abuse, hard abuse, believe me, its a tough spot to be in. But if I had to go back and choose an upbringing that either gave me a drunk stepdad who never let me step out of line, or a couple of "buddys" who let me do things my own way the whole way, Id definitely choose to get the abuse again.

And as a parent-to-be, I would never want to hurt my baby. But the day that I feel she needs to be disiplined, it will be MY choice and my responsibility to do it the way I feel would have the most effect. I will leave a mark if she disrespects her mother when she is old enough to know what it means.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

^^That is probably a debate for a different thread. The bottom line is that government has a track record of making situations worse, not better, and these kids are likely to have been better off if their parents wouldn't have made such poor parenting and broadcasting choices.

My honest opinion is that it sounds hilarious that the kid had to take cold showers and hot chili in the mouth.I look back and laugh at how I got chili on the mouth. It really did work just like a bar of soap worked. Its also pathetic that the government takes children away from their parents at the drop of a pin.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So, using your ideals, if you see me spanking my daughter hard on the butt - you would feel justified in coming to her defense? Maybe not directely, but indirectly (reporting it to school officials, etc)? Then the whole issue gets blown out of proportion because someone reported child abuse, the parent gets victimized by an out of control system of bureaucracy, and the child loses the lesson of disipline, because instead of them learning right from wrong, they learn that mommy and daddy aren't really in control of them.

I was abused as a young child. Physical abuse, hard abuse, believe me, its a tough spot to be in. But if I had to go back and choose an upbringing that either gave me a drunk stepdad who never let me step out of line, or a couple of "buddys" who let me do things my own way the whole way, Id definitely choose to get the abuse again.

And as a parent-to-be, I would never want to hurt my baby. But the day that I feel she needs to be disiplined, it will be MY choice and my responsibility to do it the way I feel would have the most effect. I will leave a mark if she disrespects her mother when she is old enough to know what it means.

When I see children who scream and yell at their parents,hit their brothers and sisters ,run around the stores grabbing stuff and talking disrespectfully to adults and strangers I say to myself "those kids have some stupid parents" and I am thankful that I was raised with a grandfather who actually survived through the Great Depression in Arizona of all places...he hopped a train every day to find work in the 1930s depression.I have yet to meet any person like my grandfather with his ability to discipline and be a good role model. He knew how to stare a person down and show anger but he never hurt me as a child.When my mom use to try to discipline me I laughed it off...then came the grandfather or dad and Id run and hide cause I knew how bad I was. Its true that kids without spankings become spoiled and they don't learn the meaning of honor your father and mother.Honor is something that has been lost in a modern society in almost every front.Ron Paul actually reminds me of my grandfather interestingly he has the angry face ability.

 

[Rael]

The fact that you turned out fine does not make what he did right. We don't use physical violence to solve problems with other adults, no reason to do so with children either.

 

[JoshLowry]

nvm

 

[Lafayette]

My Grandfather (by marriage) on my moms side was Indonesian, when i was little i used to pick my nose and put it in my mouth.
Hey i was 6 years old
When he caught me doing it he would put this hot sauce imported from Indonesian into my mouth. That stuff was hotter than anything you'd buy in the supermarket.
I learned that lesson real quick.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The fact that you turned out fine does not make what he did right. We don't use physical violence to solve problems with other adults, no reason to do so with children either.

What he did was right. "we don't use physical violence to solve problems" is the propaganda you learned from public school teachers.There is a difference between sadism and discipline.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

My Grandfather (by marriage) on my moms side was Indonesian, when i was little i used to pick my nose and put it in my mouth.
Hey i was 6 years old
When he caught me doing it he would put this hot sauce imported from Indonesian into my mouth. That stuff was hotter than anything you'd buy in the supermarket.
I learned that lesson real quick.

Haha I bet it was that hot mustard stuff.

 

[Anti Federalist]

nvm

C'mon...I would have liked to have heard that.

 

[The One]

Either that or he won't be able to get in the mood without one or the other.

Bwahahaha!!!! That's the funniest thing I've seen all day...can't believe nobody else commented. I guess they didn't see the subtle beauty/genius of the comment.

 

[asurfaholic]

The fact that you turned out fine does not make what he did right. We don't use physical violence to solve problems with other adults, no reason to do so with children either.

Physical violence is extreme. I don't advocate beating kids senseless. A heavy hand however is sometimes necessary to teach consequences. If you don't feel that way, then so be it. It strikes me as anti-liberty to see that someone wants to control how I disipline my children. I think its sad to find there are people here who feel that way. This is a personal responsibility issue. As long as there is not extreme pain or extended consequences that go beyond how a reasonable person would disipline their children, then no crime has been committed.

The op case may be borderline, but to think that its ok to go rounding people up and putting them in jail because they deal with life different is really outrageous.