Let this be a lesson to those that insist on broadcasting their entire lives to the world.

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That includes facebookers and you "well I don't care if government watches me, I've got nothing to hide" folks as well.

What you may think is perfectly OK, may in fact land you in prison.



Jury Sees Video Of Jessica Beagley, Alaska Mother, Forcing Hot Sauce Into 7-Year-Old Boy's Mouth

http://www.aol.com/2011/08/18/jessica-beagley-hot-sauce_n_930263.html?ir=Crime

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Hot sauce is a dinner table option to some parents. But to prosecutors in Alaska, forcing it on a 7-year-old boy as punishment amounts to child abuse.

In a case that has drawn international attention, jurors on Wednesday watched video showing Jessica Beagley squirting hot sauce in the mouth of her adopted son. Her attorney said it was punishment for misbehaving at school and lying about it to his mother.

The video was originally aired on a "Dr. Phil" episode and caused a public uproar in Russia where the boy is from.

The footage, along with audio of the boy screaming as he's forced to stand in a cold shower, was shown as part of Beagley's trial Wednesday on misdemeanor child abuse charges.

Prosecutors say Beagley went beyond what would be considered reasonable parental discipline. Her lawyer, William Ingaldson, said she resorted to unconventional disciplinary methods because more traditional forms of punishment had not worked with the boy.

Beagley, along with her police officer husband, adopted the boy and his twin brother from a Russian orphanage after their parents abandoned them, Ingaldson said. The boys were taken there after Russian investigators found their family living in a shack, where the boys slept on shelves in an armoire, he said.

The couple "thought this was their chance to make a difference in kids' lives," the lawyer said. The couple also has four biological children.

Anchorage police were notified about the case after "Dr. Phil" viewers saw the footage, which was submitted as a nine-minute video for a November episode titled "Mommy Confessions." "Dr. Phil" is a talk show on self-improvement.

The video, made in October 2010, shows Beagley asking the boy what happens when he lies.

"I get hot sauce," the crying boy replies.

The video shows Beagley putting the hot sauce in the boy's mouth and telling him not to spit it out. When he admits to lying, she allows him to spit out the hot sauce.

She then explains to the child that he is going to get in a cold shower for lying about misbehavior at school: wriggling in his seat and sword-fighting with pencils.

The video did not show the child in the shower, but the boy's screams can be heard.

"Listen to your teacher," she says. "You are to do what you are told."
 
Her attorney said it was punishment for misbehaving at school and lying about it to his mother.

We want your children mindless and obeisant to the state, but we don't want you helping us do it.
In an odd way this makes sense: exert more control over your children than the system, and the system takes exception to it.
 
yeah, we should definitely be able to force hot sauce down our children's throat without state interference.

/sarcasm

seriously though, if you can't force hot sauce down an adults throat or beat them to correct their behavior, for fear of being jailed for assault, why would it be ok to do it to some who is much weaker and defenseless?
 
The hot sauce sounds just like what happens when kids mouth off: soap in the mouth. I don't see what the big deal is unless he got burned.
 
Wow. There is nothing but ugly every which way you look in this case.
 
yeah, we should definitely be able to force hot sauce down our children's throat without state interference.

seriously though, if you can't force hot sauce down an adults throat or beat them to correct their behavior, for fear of being jailed for assault, why would it be ok to do it to some who is much weaker and defenseless?

All sarcasm aside, can you link me to the video where a woman forces hot sauce down her son's throat?

This is what I saw:

The video shows Beagley putting the hot sauce in the boy's mouth and telling him not to spit it out. When he admits to lying, she allows him to spit out the hot sauce.
 
The hot sauce sounds just like what happens when kids mouth off: soap in the mouth. I don't see what the big deal is unless he got burned.
Yeah, as long as it wasn't a danger to him (copious amounts of hot sauce can be sometimes though), I don't see the problem. If conventional methods of forcing a child to behave, then one must use unconventional methods, again as long as there is not danger.
 
yeah, we should definitely be able to force hot sauce down our children's throat without state interference.

/sarcasm

seriously though, if you can't force hot sauce down an adults throat or beat them to correct their behavior, for fear of being jailed for assault, why would it be ok to do it to some who is much weaker and defenseless?

I offer no comment on the effectiveness of hot sauce or the parent's actions, only to point out that obviously they saw nothing wrong with it, broadcast it the world and are now probably going to go to jail because of that.

"Vanity, definitely my favorite sin."
 
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yeah, we should definitely be able to force hot sauce down our children's throat without state interference.

/sarcasm

seriously though, if you can't force hot sauce down an adults throat or beat them to correct their behavior, for fear of being jailed for assault, why would it be ok to do it to some who is much weaker and defenseless?

Meh, you can't keep another adult locked in their room or ground them either. Most people do that.

Hot sauce may be a little painful, but it doesn't cause injury and it is actually healthful.

Cold showers don't cause injury, either.

I don't know if I'd use those methods, personally, I guess it depends on what the kid was doing.

In school he was wriggling in his seat and sword fighting.. sounds like they need more outdoor time, but they're in Alaska..
 
I don't think parents should be allowed to verbally or physically punish kids. But I do understand that most would not support this type of parenting. I do think though if the kid can not defend himself someone else should come to his defense.

However I think AF point was that broadcasting private life is not a good idea since we break a myriad of retarded laws everyday.
 
just don't know what to say.

don't send your parenting videos to Dr. Phil??? (why would anyone make a parenting video, anyway? $$$?? "fame"???)
 
If you aren't careful then the world will hurt you, and if you are really careless you can kill yourself or someone else without intending to.

Children do need to be physically punished when they do things that are harmful to themselves or others. Not physically abused, but sometimes physical punishment focuses the attention like nothing else.

Those who don't understand this are setting their children up to be hurt later in life, because like I said, if you aren't careful, the world will hurt you.
 
My grandfather who was a copper miner in the 1920s and a very strong hard working man during the "Great Depression" disciplined me with a leather belt, and jalapenos on the lips. I never ever disrespected him or talked back to him or my grandmother.He was the greatest role model in my entire lifetime and what he did was perfectly okay. I was copying what I heard on tv as a 5 year old sometimes saying cuss words when I didn't know what they meant. When I got raw jalapenos smothered on my mouth I would lay down with a cold wet towel over my mouth thinking "Thats the last time I talk back to Tata"
 
I don't think parents should be allowed to verbally or physically punish kids. But I do understand that most would not support this type of parenting. I do think though if the kid can not defend himself someone else should come to his defense.

However I think AF point was that broadcasting private life is not a good idea since we break a myriad of retarded laws everyday.

+rep for getting my point.
 
I completely disagree. I was put in place with a leather belt,paddle, japaneo peppers and time out depending on how severe my bad behavior was. I turned out just fine.

AF's point is that just because you think it's fine, it doesn't mean that the state will allow you to keep your kid.
 
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