Matt Collins
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When did I vote for the State? I am against statism, but I am not for anarchy. That happy medium is called libertarianism.
Lesser of two evils argument: how to respond?
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I think the best way to respond to him is to appeal to the issues that are important to him. He seems to care about fiscal responsibility -- so, ask him, who was more irresponsible, W or Clinton? Remember that Clinton actually balanced the budget for a brief shining moment. Bush is giving us record deficits, each new year smashing the previous record set the year before.
If he thinks that McCain will start bringing us back towards balanced budgets, he's crazy. McCain is committed to American Empire, which costs at least as much as the social programs the Dems want. Both parties are committed to massive deficit spending, the only question put to the voters is, "How you you want your crushing, country-destroying debt served to you?" The Dems will serve it with a smile to the mothers and children and elderly, as well as giving fat cash to Wall Street. The Reps will take a serious approach, gripping their M-16s and saying the deficit is necessary to protect us, while they shovel money at Haliburton and Blackwater.
Neither party gives you the option of "Hey..um.. I don't really want my country to be destroyed.."
Seriously.. if his main issue is fiscal responsibility, this is an easy one. Obama and McCain are equally irresponsible.
But, if he believes this crap about terrorism, that the war in Iraq is necessary to protect us, then it is more difficult.
If he thinks that McCain will start bringing us back towards balanced budgets, he's crazy. McCain is committed to American Empire, which costs at least as much as the social programs the Dems want. Both parties are committed to massive deficit spending, the only question put to the voters is, "How you you want your crushing, country-destroying debt served to you?" The Dems will serve it with a smile to the mothers and children and elderly, as well as giving fat cash to Wall Street. The Reps will take a serious approach, gripping their M-16s and saying the deficit is necessary to protect us, while they shovel money at Haliburton and Blackwater.
Neither party gives you the option of "Hey..um.. I don't really want my country to be destroyed.."
Seriously.. if his main issue is fiscal responsibility, this is an easy one. Obama and McCain are equally irresponsible.
But, if he believes this crap about terrorism, that the war in Iraq is necessary to protect us, then it is more difficult.
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"If you were in prison and faced a 50% chance of death by lethal injection, a 45% chance of the electric chair, and had a 5% chance of escape, would you vote for lethal injection because it was the most likely outcome, or would you try for escape? Voting Libertarian is our only chance for political survival. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." - Michael Badnarik
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Pepper, your posts are usually spot on and I look forward to reading them.
In some states, such as NC, RP cannot be written in (as a R), so if you do write him in, your vote is thrown out. I'm not sure if your whole ticket is tossed, or just your write in, but that is the fact that we are faced with. In NC, the only way we can vote for RP is for him to get on a third party ticket, BUT he would have to give up his seat in the House to do that. It's just not going to happen.
So we watch and wait and see how things work out closer to the election.
The biggest and most important thing is not getting RP into the POTUS position, it's getting Liberty loving individuals into local, state and national seats THIS YEAR and next year. AND getting ourselves into positions in the gop where we can direct what the party does.
We will survive whatever happens as far as a presidential election is concerned, hopefully. We've managed to survive pretty bad times in the past, tho our liberties have been stomped on to a point that recovery may take a lot longer.
Never give up the fight. It is not about the man, it's the message.
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I am voting for Chuck Baldwin simply because I despise McCain so badly. I would have voted for any of the GOP candidates over Obama (even Guiliani, though it would have hurt), but not McCain. He has betrayed conservatives at every opportunity.
The man is simply the fall guy that the MSM help put up against Obama. Obama can hand McCain every opportunity to capitalize on, like affirmative action quotas, immigration, taxes and free speech, but the man simply won't even try, so he's going to lose badly. McCain would rather pander to la Raza than court conservatives. That's fine, he won't get my vote. By playing by Obama's rules, and trying to outpander the most liberal senator in the nation, McCain is just proving what a worthless hollow shell of a politician he is.
If I were absolutely forced to pick between these two, yes, I'd vote for McCain and hope Republicans in congress would stand up to his worst excesses, but I don't have to do that. Instead I can vote for someone whose ideas and values I share. To me, both Obama and McCain are one-world globalists or internationalist first, rather than Americans first. We've already had eight years of that.
The man is simply the fall guy that the MSM help put up against Obama. Obama can hand McCain every opportunity to capitalize on, like affirmative action quotas, immigration, taxes and free speech, but the man simply won't even try, so he's going to lose badly. McCain would rather pander to la Raza than court conservatives. That's fine, he won't get my vote. By playing by Obama's rules, and trying to outpander the most liberal senator in the nation, McCain is just proving what a worthless hollow shell of a politician he is.
If I were absolutely forced to pick between these two, yes, I'd vote for McCain and hope Republicans in congress would stand up to his worst excesses, but I don't have to do that. Instead I can vote for someone whose ideas and values I share. To me, both Obama and McCain are one-world globalists or internationalist first, rather than Americans first. We've already had eight years of that.
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