Leftists Won’t Be Going ‘Door-To-Door’ To Take Your Guns, Because They Won’t Have To

[Stratovarious]

I think the John Birch Society and the 10th Amendment center might be pushing it along with organizers like GOA etc.

Good to know, I just looked up Jay Obernolte (assemblyman for the Needles district) I'll follow him
on instagram, he only has about 700 followers, he's a 2nd amendment advocate mentioned in
a needles 2nd A 'sanctuary' article, I'm looking up Jay , the mayor, so I can follow his actions, he
said the term 'Sanctuary' was a poke at the liberals in Sacramento, good for him, and that
Needles was not a free pass town for illegals.

 

[Stratovarious]

I made that mistake. I made a bear not afraid of me, by acting like I treat other wild animals, so as not to stress them: Announcing myself as I go around it.
That only made it curious, and it started stalking me. In the end I had to throw rocks at it and yell at it to go away.

I always feel bad when I have to scare bears off, but now I feel worse for making a bear curious about me, only to throw large rocks at it.
But they aren't going to become your friend. They'll become a pest that makes the rules, and those rules would include killing pets, and you, if they got hungry enough. And I don't think you have the budget to tame a bear with meat. XD It is always best to try to make them afraid, maybe even terrified.

I have lizards and Jack Rabbits stalking me, I try to ignore them and act like everything is normal , so far
its' worked out ok, I leave water out for all the wild critters in the area, sometimes a gallon and a half
will be gone by morning, no doubt the coyotes come around to help drain it.

Every morning before I let my own pets out I clear the area , keeping an eye out for Owls, Hawks, Rattlers,
and coyotes.
In 17 years out hear I've encountered and relocated at least a dozen rattlers, and other scary critters,
have yet found the need to kill any of them, though it has been a tad stressing at times, the times
where they turn around and start heading my way. :yikes:

 

[Stratovarious]

I made that mistake. I made a bear not afraid of me, by acting like I treat other wild animals, so as not to stress them: Announcing myself as I go around it.
That only made it curious, and it started stalking me. In the end I had to throw rocks at it and yell at it to go away.

I always feel bad when I have to scare bears off, but now I feel worse for making a bear curious about me, only to throw large rocks at it.
But they aren't going to become your friend. They'll become a pest that makes the rules, and those rules would include killing pets, and you, if they got hungry enough. And I don't think you have the budget to tame a bear with meat. XD It is always best to try to make them afraid, maybe even terrified.

What is XD ? I googled it, not finding a clear meaning or def for it, I see 10mm pistol, ammo , not sure.
If this is meant to 'scare' I don't think it would be a 10mm slug ....?

 

[UWDude]

Yea I usually throw fire crackers at them. My next door neighbors will shoot them. My dog goes after them too* but, I try real hard to discourage him from doing that. I can usually smell them when they come up. I keep my garbage, compost and garden wired off behind barbed wire too. I think I could train a cub who lost their mother though.

* My dog is akita/doberman I found out that Akita are used for hunting bears. He is not afraid of anything...

Nice. After the bear incident I decided I need a pair of m-80s with short fuses. I don't want to carry around bear mace or a gun. Too heavy for something I more than likely will never actually need.

Plus I don't want to shoot a bear in the middle of nowhere. It would be a waste of a perfectly good animal, no way at all to transfer a dead bear from where I go.

Akita are dogs from Hakkaido. The Japanese there (Anu) hated bears for millenia. They have a tradition of kidnapping a cub, and then torturing it to death. The tradition apparently stems from their victory over bears. I can imagine a time when bears were not afraid of people, and all people had were spears and stones. Would be a horrible existence.

 

[UWDude]

What is XD ? I googled it, not finding a clear meaning or def for it, I see 10mm pistol, ammo , not sure.
If this is meant to 'scare' I don't think it would be a 10mm slug ....?

XD is an emoji of a person laughing. (X is squinted eyes, D is mouth).

 

[Stratovarious]

XD is an emoji of a person laughing. (X is squinted eyes, D is mouth).

XD

 

[ProBlue33]

Before this happens in Red States like Mississippi that have more lax gun laws, it will have to pass two very difficult hurdles, any national law passed would hit the supreme court which would then have to reinterpret the 2nd amendment to favor the ban, that will take a majority of leftest judges. So let's say that happens then the state can claim state rights, just like the death penalty, arguing what is right for California in gun control is not right for a state like Wyoming for example. If that was to fail, then it would be up to local enforcement to apply the law, but is the local Sheriff who personally owns an AR-15 going turn it it in, who would enforce that on him. And then that extends to his family as well will he take his father-law, brother-laws,brothers, nephews, dad, guns away too...I think not.
This will be unenforceable in States that don't agree with a federal law on the books. But it will stop the sale of all new weapons and effect those companies that build them.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Obama will take all of your guns away if he gets elected!

 

[Working Poor]

have yet found the need to kill any of them

I don't kill nothing intentionally I think I run over a few rats and snakes with the mower but if they can't hear that thing and clear out that's kinda too bad. I wish my neighbors wouldn't shoot at the bears but a lot of people around here have live stock. I think it is actually illegal to kill bears around where I am at. To my knowledge they just shoot near them but don't kill them but I would not put it past them to kill them if they were in their stables. There are poisonous snakes in my yard copperheads and cottonmouths I don't mess with them too much unless one is crawling on me and there are of course coyotes, deer and cougars too. I have a couple black snakes that keep my garden rodent free and I do not disturb them. I always wear my heavy boots when I go wondering around outside on my property.

I have to keep a very close eye on my male dog at night. I insist that he stays inside. There are just too many things out in the night.

 

[Republicanguy]

Typical rightwing chatter about owning guns, and not seeing the wider society.

Violent, bullying society you people seem to live in, paranoid, godly and arrogant. Terrible.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Typical rightwing chatter about owning guns, and not seeing the wider society.

Violent, bullying society you people seem to live in, paranoid, godly and arrogant. Terrible.

The only places in America that are full of violent bullies have gun bans.

Get lost, Redcoat slave.

 

[Republicanguy]

The only places in America that are full of violent bullies have gun bans.

Get lost, Redcoat slave.

You keep believing that, because I don't.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You keep believing that, because I don't.

You are a fool and a slave who only believes what you are told to think by your masters.

 

[kahless]

Typical rightwing chatter about owning guns, and not seeing the wider society.

Violent, bullying society you people seem to live in, paranoid, godly and arrogant. Terrible.

If one does not own a gun then what is your solution for this?

1. Over powering lunatic or group of thugs tries to kill you and there is no time to reach for your phone to call the police. Even if you do call the police by the time they get to you while you trying to get away from them you end up either dead, raped or injured.

2. A victim of a violent crime through forced home entry wishes to prevent further injury or sexual assault by defending themselves with a gun from another attack. What is your alternative solution to stop them?

3. What do you do for 1. or 2. when the criminal is known by police but the police chose to look the other way since either the gun toting attacker is one of their own or a relative to the blue family? With 18,000 Federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies in the US it is estimated that there are close to a million officers. If you count people who work for the police, the judicial system, politicians and then add their families, friends, we are looking at millions. Within any percentage of the population there is always a percentage of deviants. These deviants are armed and above the law. A dangerous combination that requires one to be properly armed against them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Both sides heavily exaggerate. Anti- gun people over-emphasize mass shootings which are actually pretty rare. Pro-gun people jump to "they are going to take away all of our guns!" There will be hand wringing on both sides and maybe some small marginal rule changes to show they are "doing something" on one side and "we stopped the confiscation!" on the other side and things will pretty much stay the same.

When the left says that, exactly, those exact words...what do you suggest we do?

Ignore it?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Typical rightwing chatter about owning guns, and not seeing the wider society.

Violent, bullying society you people seem to live in, paranoid, godly and arrogant. Terrible.

I know, it is a horrible place.

Do not ever move here...you'd be miserable.

 

[Stratovarious]

I don't kill nothing intentionally I think I run over a few rats and snakes with the mower but if they can't hear that thing and clear out that's kinda too bad. I wish my neighbors wouldn't shoot at the bears but a lot of people around here have live stock. I think it is actually illegal to kill bears around where I am at. To my knowledge they just shoot near them but don't kill them but I would not put it past them to kill them if they were in their stables. There are poisonous snakes in my yard copperheads and cottonmouths I don't mess with them too much unless one is crawling on me and there are of course coyotes, deer and cougars too. I have a couple black snakes that keep my garden rodent free and I do not disturb them. I always wear my heavy boots when I go wondering around outside on my property.

I have to keep a very close eye on my male dog at night. I insist that he stays inside. There are just too many things out in the night.

I'm ascard' of water moccasins, have never seen copperheads of cottonmouths, hear of them but I don't think
we have them out her in the desert.
Got no bears thank God.

You wear heavy boots, that's good, whenever I'm out walking I stamp my feet ever' so often, that clears
the snakes, they're pretty good snakes as long as they aren't surprised or cornered.
We have red racers that can scare the begesus out of ya , they are super fast, but actually harmless,
the Bull Snakes are beautiful, harmless too.

And yea, pets out at night will shorten their lifespan by about 89 percent, at least that's my experience,
no one goes out at night, they don't mind cause they know they get to go out and hang outside in the
mornings for a couple hours.

 

[Philhelm]

I've always held that they won't go door-to-door. It would be impossible since there isn't enough manpower to do so, considering the vast size of our nation and population. Such a landmark event wouldn't come as a surprise, so we would all know well ahead of time and could easily stash our firearms into hiding. It would also force some people into armed conflict so would present at least some risk, although it would be stupid to shoot back in a door-to-door scenario when one could do much more damage by choosing the time and location of a counterattack.

The main goal would be to simply criminalize people who were perfectly lawful a day prior. They would know that many people would hide their weapons, but they would also know that most of these people aren't going to use them in self-defense anyway. What they will have accomplished is to make people fear firearm ownership and the consequences of using them in self-defense. They would also slow down the proliferation of firearms and prevent people from lawfully practicing with them at a range. In other words, it would land a crushing blow on our culture which largely supports individual firearm ownership. In twenty years, such people would be considered archaic and the cultural acceptance of individual firearm ownership will begin to evaporate.

Of course they will still enforce the law, but it will be calculated and opportunistic enforcement in order to spread fear. Maybe they raid someone's home for a drug related matter, find an illegal firearm, and now the individual is subject to a 20 year minimum sentence. The headline will read, "Area Police Arrest White Supremacist for Illegal Guns and Drugs," and nobody will care. But the message will be clear for the rest of us.

I would argue that if there were such a ban, and we were hiding in the shadows with our AR-15s buried somewhere, hoping that the government won't find them, then we might as well just give up. Otherwise, we would have to fight.

 

[oyarde]

Both sides heavily exaggerate. Anti- gun people over-emphasize mass shootings which are actually pretty rare. Pro-gun people jump to "they are going to take away all of our guns!" There will be hand wringing on both sides and maybe some small marginal rule changes to show they are "doing something" on one side and "we stopped the confiscation!" on the other side and things will pretty much stay the same.

I oppose all gun laws . Criminals do not obey the law so restrictions only apply and hinder the law abiding . Therefore they are senseless . I oppose all gun laws . There should never be another . If there are it will have zero effect on future criminal behaviour . People who support gun laws are dangerous open communists who are enemies of the state and wish to deprive people of safety .

 

[Working Poor]

I oppose all gun laws . Criminals do not obey the law so restrictions only apply and hinder the law abiding . Therefore they are senseless . I oppose all gun laws . There should never be another . If there are it will have zero effect on future criminal behaviour . People who support gun laws are dangerous open communists who are enemies of the state and wish to deprive people of safety .

Yea if it becomes illegal to own or sell a gun the black market will happily stock their shelves with more guns. That is something that the gun grabbers don't seem to want to consider at all at least publicly. It is my opinion that people who want to make guns illegal and keep medicinal pain relief plants illegal are top people in the cartels.