Leftist SPLC Publishes Patriot Hit List

[catdd]

You want to see domestic terrorism take a walk through East LA tonight and the Obama supporters will enlighten you.

 

[pcosmar]

sorry I don't want to be killed by domestic terrorism

Ron Paul and his supporters are Domestic Terrorists.

YouTube - Domestic Terrorist Test; Are you and Glenn Beck one? MIAC Report: Ron Paul Supporters Terrorists?

 

[Anti Federalist]

sorry I don't want to be killed by domestic terrorism

Oh that's fine, just don't claim to be any kind of freedom loving ana/cap libertarian or even constitutional conservative.

The threat from internal "terrorism" is greatest from the left.

Throughout the 1960s and 1970s there were multiple bombings, shootings, assassination attempts on the House floor, riots in which whole cities burned down.

The Unabomber could be considered an "anarchist".

As Pericles already noted there have been numerous attacks form various earth protecting "extremist" groups.

All of these are not brought up by SPLC. They have a political agenda, they are a propaganda outlet that has the government's full attention, in order to focus on a political enemy that is not a threat.

Historically, your self professed description of your philosophy is a greater threat than any militia.

 

[lester1/2jr]

so you do think the government should monitor leftists activities

 

[Anti Federalist]

so you do think the government should monitor leftists activities

I don't think the government should be "monitoring" anybody.

The very idea, the very phrase, is repulsive to liberty.

The odds of getting killed in a terrorist act are less than your odds of getting killed by a lightening strike.

I'll take my chances with freedom, thank you.

Let the system do the only thing it can do, figure out what happened after the fact.

 

[Pericles]

sorry I don't want to be killed by domestic terrorism

But, you're OK with being killed by foreign terrorism?

 

[lester1/2jr]

I had two members of my family very nearly killed on 9/11. I'm not going to "take my chances with liberty". it almost sunk our economy too. you can't just not have an apparatus to prevent possible terrorist attacks.

 

[amy31416]

I had two members of my family very early killed on 9/11. I'm not going to "take my chances with liberty". it almost sunk our economy too. you can't just not have an apparatus to prevent possible terrorist attacks.

You mean an apparatus like the Constitution that should be able to restrain our government from provoking or inciting terrorism in the first place?

I'm sorry that you had family members that were victims, but understand that they were victims of our foreign policy and that the only thing that will change that is living up to the standards that we allegedly espouse--it will not change if we simply put more scanners in airports or bomb more Middle Eastern countries.

People don't hate the US for our "freedoms," right? Yet you seem to be rallying for more of a lockdown on freedom for security. Benjamin Franklin had a pretty good quote on that.

 

[lester1/2jr]

corrected: that should be "nearly" not early. they were not killed. my dad was on the ground and his wife was in the stairwell in tower two when the second plane hit and got out safe

I agree that our foreign policy is the cause of terrorism but that doesn't mean you have no mechanism for stopping potential attacks. that's like saying the economy is so good we don't need to foil bank robberies or if it were better people wouldn't need to rob banks.

 

[amy31416]

corrected: that should be "nearly" not early. they were not killed. my dad was on the ground and his wife was in the stairwell in tower two when the second plane hit and got out safe

I agree that our foreign policy is the cause of terrorism but that doesn't mean you have no mechanism for stopping potential attacks. that's like saying the economy is so good we don't need to foil bank robberies or if it were better people wouldn't need to rob banks.

Please detail what freedoms you suggest we should trade for such security.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I had two members of my family very nearly killed on 9/11. I'm not going to "take my chances with liberty". it almost sunk our economy too. you can't just not have an apparatus to prevent possible terrorist attacks.

Oh, OK.

Yes, we have a very cumbersome and invasive and freedom destroying apparatus in place to deal with "terrorism".

The next time a government stooge, (the Undies bomber) tries that stunt with some binary explosives stuffed up his ass, we'll all be getting body cavity searches at the airport.

So, according to you in this thread, paleoconservatives are just a cover front for white supremacists and the massive government Leviathan is necessary to keep you safe from terrorism.

Well, you're either trolling us or so far from understanding what real liberty is that there is little hope of trying to convince you otherwise.

 

[paulitics]

I had two members of my family very nearly killed on 9/11. I'm not going to "take my chances with liberty". it almost sunk our economy too. you can't just not have an apparatus to prevent possible terrorist attacks.

You have too much trust in government. There is no way you are any where close to being an ancap, libertarian or even conservative. You're views are closer to the MSM's views, and that is pretty extreme on the statist and antiliberty front.

 

[lester1/2jr]

yeah because i don't agree with you I'm a leftist.

like I care what you think.

paleoconservatives are just a cover front for white supremacists and the massive government Leviathan is necessary to keep you safe from terrorism

no, but some of them are. some out and out racists are also paleo cons. that doesn't mean ALL paleo cons are racists. have a sense of humor about the fact that you resemble them in some ways. my views put me superficially in the same camp as idiots who disrupt world trade conferences and so forth, I don't give a toss

 

[Truth-Bringer]

I had two members of my family very nearly killed on 9/11.

Clearly, the emotional trauma of that event is clouding your ability to properly reason.

I'm not going to "take my chances with liberty".

He just told you the truth - that you have a greater risk of being struck by lightning than killed in a terrorist attack. Do you huddle in a closet and cry like a baby during a thunderstorm?

You don't have any right to deprive anyone else of liberty. If you want to stay in a panic room 24/7, that's your choice and you have the right to do that. But you don't have the right to tell the rest of us what we have to do to make you feel better.

it almost sunk our economy too.

Only because our economy is weakened by central banking, fiat currency, high and unconstitutional taxes and many irrational regulations.

you can't just not have an apparatus to prevent possible terrorist attacks.

The question you fail to ask is WHY DID THEY ATTACK US? It's because we're in their territory and giving aid to repressive governments in the region. If we will leave and declare neutrality, there will no longer be a reason for terrorists to try and attack us.

 

[lester1/2jr]

The question you fail to ask is WHY DID THEY ATTACK US?

I didn't fail to ask that. I acknowledge it. Our foreign policy is why the terrorists want to kill us. I frickin know that. that's called a root cause. that doesn't mean you don't ALSO have to have security.

agitating for us to have a more sensible foreign policy is not going to stop the next terror attack. that requires actual people doing actual investigations and so forth. certainly they would have alot less to do if we stayed out of the middle east but again, we are taking prevention not root causes.

Only because our economy is weakened by central banking, fiat currency, high and unconstitutional taxes and many irrational regulations.

yeah that's why the stock market dropped on 9/11. it had nothing to do with what was going on outside!

 

[libertygrl]

Do we just have to sit around and take this kind of shit from the ADL and SPLC?

It's one thing to have groups that make up such lists just to solicit money, but it's another when they have the ear of the government. When policy is created based on their testimony in Congress, they put American citizens at serious risk.

Maybe we need to put pressure on our representatives and provide them with information so that the SPLC can be investigated. Wish someone could do to them what was done to ACORN (Although I heard that they never went away, they just came back under a different name.) AJ should do a documentary about SPLC.

 

[catdd]

The problem is that we have no media outlet willing to go up against them; hell, even FOX uses their drivel as the lfinal word on militias and domestic terrorism.
But pressuring representatives is good and I also suggested protesting them at Tea Parties.
I've been thinking of some good slogans for signs.

 

[amy31416]

I didn't fail to ask that. I acknowledge it. Our foreign policy is why the terrorists want to kill us. I frickin know that. that's called a root cause. that doesn't mean you don't ALSO have to have security.

agitating for us to have a more sensible foreign policy is not going to stop the next terror attack. that requires actual people doing actual investigations and so forth. certainly they would have alot less to do if we stayed out of the middle east but again, we are taking prevention not root causes.



yeah that's why the stock market dropped on 9/11. it had nothing to do with what was going on outside!

Why won't you specify exactly what freedoms are worth giving up for the security you seek?

 

[lester1/2jr]

so you don't thin they shold at all try to prevent terorrist attacks?

If I have knoweldge of a terorist attack that is definately going to happen I shouldn't tell anybody and no one should try and prevent it OKAY

 

[amy31416]

so you don't thin they shold at all try to prevent terorrist attacks?

If I have knoweldge of a terorist attack that is definately going to happen I shouldn't tell anybody and no one should try and prevent it OKAY

How many of our liberties are already being violated in the name of security? Start with the Patriot Act, please.

Given that they're already "protecting" us from "terrorists," why was the underwear bomber stopped by a foreign citizen and not our beloved government who was actually warned about his activities?

Yet you seem to be suggesting that we should give our government more control over our lives, no matter how incompetent or evil (your choice), they've proven themselves to be.

What conclusion should I draw about you based on that?