Leaving the GOP is what the establishment WANTS you to do!

Exactly. All I hear from these mainstream Republicans is "Will you people just leave now. We never wanted you and never will."

But I was already a Republican, and I'm not leaving,
 
I don't have to register party affiliation in WA so they don't need to know how I voted.
 
How many more of these threads do you get to keep on posting before it's considered spamming? Although I do understand what you're doing though. With the 2012 campaign dying down, gotta do what you can to keep these paychecks coming in...
 
No, you are wrong. Its true, They don't want us to speak or have any opinions, but they do want us. They want us to shut up and vote for their pick.
 
How many more of these threads do you get to keep on posting before it's considered spamming? Although I do understand what you're doing though. With the 2012 campaign dying down, gotta do what you can to keep these paychecks coming in...

How many threads do people have to post that pertain to "Wahhh! I am leaving the GOP!" and stomping off like a baby before they're considered spam? (Not defending Collins, by the way, he can take care of himself)

I've seen plenty of those around.
 
If you vote Romney, they double win, and all of our efforts are for naught, since you teach them they can run us over, beat us, cheat us, lie to us... and still get our vote.
 
If you vote Romney, they double win, and all of our efforts are for naught, since you teach them they can run us over, beat us, cheat us, lie to us... and still get our vote.

I don't think anyone on RPF plans on voting for Romney... Can't speak for all of the "softies" outside of RPF, though.
 
Putting sand into the Republican machine is so much fun why would anyone ever want to stop? The GOP has given no quarter and they will receive none! Let us continue to give the neocons fits as they lose the white house back to back to a known Marxist. If Republican voters want to defeat the liberal Democrats they must offer independent voters more than a liberal Republican. Eventually the GOP will be forced to improve their product if they want to win the presidency. Not being Obama is not good enough. Let us enjoy causing the neocons heartburn and disappointment as they fail to defeat an admitted socialist!
 
Sorry I just don't agree. I don't really want to debate it because I've read all the reasons for and against a thousand times probably.

I just don't think you will accomplish enough in taking it over. The math is against you. Mainstream republicans have the overwhelming numbers that they can show up for decades ousting you if they wake up to it.

In my opinion, you can keep trying this and in 5-10 years you might get some lukewarm politician that talks libertarian but does not practice it in reality. Something like the Reagan revolution.
 
How many threads do people have to post that pertain to "Wahhh! I am leaving the GOP!" and stomping off like a baby before they're considered spam? (Not defending Collins, by the way, he can take care of himself)

I've seen plenty of those around.

Checking the first 2 pages of these forums, I see 1 thread related to what you are saying. I see 3 threads by Mr. Collins though. Please point out any that I may have missed. Yes, you are defending him. Maybe you'd like to see a few more by Mr. Collins before you start noticing it?
 
Sorry I just don't agree. I don't really want to debate it because I've read all the reasons for and against a thousand times probably.

I just don't think you will accomplish enough in taking it over. The math is against you. Mainstream republicans have the overwhelming numbers that they can show up for decades ousting you if they wake up to it.

In my opinion, you can keep trying this and in 5-10 years you might get some lukewarm politician that talks libertarian but does not practice it in reality. Something like the Reagan revolution.
Dude, apparently you're either not taking into consideration our standing in '08 v. '12 or willfully playing ostrich. Back when, we had Ron and very few local party delegates and virtually no control in any state party nor had any national commpersons which are auto nat'l delegates. Now, Ron can spend more time promoting our candidates, we have certain state parties under our wings, we're on the verge of restoring more parties in certain states, precinct delegates up the wazoo everywhere, building coalitions with other Tea party conservatives everywhere, sending likely a handful of decent folks to the Senate, ~15 reps to the House and God knows how many prospects we are polishing on the farm team in state houses all across the country. If that isn't making progress in Ron's GOP restoration project, I don't know what is.
 
Putting sand into the Republican machine is so much fun why would anyone ever want to stop? The GOP has given no quarter and they will receive none! Let us continue to give the neocons fits as they lose the white house back to back to a known Marxist. If Republican voters want to defeat the liberal Democrats they must offer independent voters more than a liberal Republican. Eventually the GOP will be forced to improve their product if they want to win the presidency. Not being Obama is not good enough. Let us enjoy causing the neocons heartburn and disappointment as they fail to defeat an admitted socialist!

The problem is that the establishment really doesn't care if they win the presidency, they are perfectly happy one way or the other. It's all one big party to them no matter who wins. It's only the voters who care, because they are too frigging stupid to see it doesn't matter. It will only matter if the establishment can be taken down.
 
I just don't think you will accomplish enough in taking it over. The math is against you. Mainstream republicans have the overwhelming numbers that they can show up for decades ousting you if they wake up to it.
Minnesota, Iowa, and several other state Republican Parties would disagree with you.
 
Dude, apparently you're either not taking into consideration our standing in '08 v. '12 or willfully playing ostrich. Back when, we had Ron and very few local party delegates and virtually no control in any state party nor had any national commpersons which are auto nat'l delegates. Now, Ron can spend more time promoting our candidates, we have certain state parties under our wings, we're on the verge of restoring more parties in certain states, precinct delegates up the wazoo everywhere, building coalitions with other Tea party conservatives everywhere, sending likely a handful of decent folks to the Senate, ~15 reps to the House and God knows how many prospects we are polishing on the farm team in state houses all across the country. If that isn't making progress in Ron's GOP restoration project, I don't know what is.

Minnesota, Iowa, and several other state Republican Parties would disagree with you.

The voting public and the possible neocon delegates in reserve disagree with you. We are an irate minority.
 
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