Law Lets I.R.S. Seize Accounts on Suspicion, No Crime Required

[TheTexan]

You mean, we shouldn't vote harder to change this?

Nah, it's fine the way it is. She broke the law.. she didn't know she was breaking the law, but when has that ever mattered?

Tax evaders gonna tax evade... gotta stop them somehow!

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Bitcoin, Silver, Gold, Cash money, and enough in your checking for bills.

I have to much in my checking account right now, Not following my own advice.

 

[Czolgosz]

Making sure she pays her fair share. Praise be!

 

[Occam's Banana]

So much for storing money in a bank for safety. You're better off with a safe and a gun now.

Not even that. You can't shoot inflation, and Inflation can crack any safe ...

 

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Hillary 2016!! Let's make sure we fought WWII for nothing..

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

yep The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.


4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).


5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

 

[osan]

So much for storing money in a bank for safety.

Regardless of what may have been true in the past, and some notions are eminently questionable, today's banks have nothing to do with safety. FDIC "insurance" is proof positive of that. Even their "public service announcements" on radio unequivocally imply that the threats to your "assets" (HA!) issue not from bank robbers, but from other sources wholly unrelated to overtly violent and physical acts of theft.

Banks now serve Themme as monitors of money flow and personal transactions. They serve as the choke point Theye may employ to stifle access to the means of purchase or other financial transactions by the Individual, a group, or entire populations. The banks are Theire eye-in-the-sky... perhaps not wholly unlike the one depicted on the dollar bill.

You're better off with a safe and a gun now.

Perhaps, but is it not only marginally so?

 

[presence]

FUCK BANKS FUCK FIAT


hold tangibles

 

[twomp]

IRS seizes woman's entire savings because she deposits less than $10,000 at a time

An Iowa woman named Carole Hinders saw her bank balance go from $33,000 to zero thanks to IRS confiscation. Hinders, who owns a small, cash-only Mexican restaurant, has not been charged with any crime and is not suspected of tax fraud. The IRS says they took her money solely because she deposited too little of it at a time, and the agency claims she did so to avoid the required reporting of any bank transaction over $10,000. She says she just thought it was helpful to save the bank paperwork.

Though the $10,000 rule is ostensibly designed to help catch terrorists and drug dealers, it is far more often used on regular citizens who are unlikely to ever see their money returned. "I don't think [the IRS is] really interested in anything," said a lawyer representing another seizure case. "They just want the money."

To keep her restaurant afloat following the confiscation of her savings, Hinders has had to take out a second mortgage and max out her credit cards. "How can this happen?" she asks. "Who takes your money before they prove that you've done anything wrong with it?"

http://theweek.com/article/index/27...ecause-she-deposits-less-than-10000-at-a-time

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Judge Napolitano on FOX BUSINESS w/ Stewart Varney

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The IRS Can Seize Your Business Bank Account With Zero Evidence Of A Crime
by Jay Caruso

Imagine running your small business for 40 years. People who do often fall into a pattern of how they conduct business. Particularly for a food business. It’s remarkable that a business involving food that isn’t a franchise can survive 40 years but it does happen.

Now imagine that one day, some pencil neck at the IRS gets a hold of your deposits at the bank and doesn’t like the way you’ve been making those deposits. That pencil neck, without a warrant, without evidence of a crime, without a complaint can seize your account and all the cash in it and there’s nothing you can do about it....

More: http://www.pocketfullofliberty.com/irs-bank-account-seizures/

 

[Deborah K]

Thieves, the whole lot of 'em.




Bank tellers have advised me to do the same thing when I didn't even ask for their advice. The money was legit, btw.

Same. And it's not just deposits, it's withdrawals as well.

 

[DamianTV]

Law Lets IRS Seize Accounts On Suspicion, No Crime Required

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/10...seize-accounts-on-suspicion-no-crime-required
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/la...no-crime-required/ar-BBbbfW3?ocid=mailsignout

The IRS admits to seizing hundreds of thousands of dollars of private assets, without any proof of illegal activity, merely because there is a law that lets them do it. From the article: "Using a law designed to catch drug traffickers, racketeers and terrorists by tracking their cash, the government has gone after run-of-the-mill business owners and wage earners without so much as an allegation that they have committed serious crimes. The government can take the money without ever filing a criminal complaint, and the owners are left to prove they are innocent. Many give up and settle the case for a portion of their money.

'They're going after people who are really not criminals,' said David Smith, a former federal prosecutor who is now a forfeiture expert and lawyer in Virginia. 'They're middle-class citizens who have never had any trouble with the law.'" The article describes several specific cases, all of which are beyond egregious and are in fact entirely unconstitutional. The Bill of Rights is very clear about this: The federal government cannot take private property without just compensation."

And John Q. Public is just now becoming aware of what we've all known for how damn long now?

 

[Anti Federalist]

"How can this happen?" she asks. "Who takes your money before they prove that you've done anything wrong with it?"

How?

Because millions of people just like you have not been paying attention.

Who?

The government, that people just like you vote for more and more and more of, every year.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And John Q. Public is just now becoming aware of what we've all known for how damn long now?

And Boobus will belch, and fart, and scratch, and maybe raise a little hell.

Until the next game comes on.

If we were the people we were 250 years ago, these official bandits would be hanging by their own entrails.

But, we are not.

And the band played on...

 

[ZENemy]

HILARAND PAULUSHINTON 2016!!!!!







PLEASE BE SLIGHTLY NICER THAN THE LAST MASTER!

 

[phill4paul]

Steal my money and see what it gets ya. Go on. I DARE you.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

“Innocent until proven guilty” is officially dead
By Bonnie Kristian - October 27, 2014

For nearly four decades, an Iowa woman named Carole Hinders has made regular cash deposits at her local bank. She runs a small Mexican restaurant which doesn’t accept checks or credit cards, so this banking process made sense. Hinders saved up $33,000 to provide some financial security and help keep her business running—but now, her entire savings is gone, confiscated by the IRS.

What crime is she accused of? Well, none.

Hinders is up to date on her taxes, and no one suspects her of money laundering. The sole problem is the size of her cash deposits at the bank: The IRS says they’re too small, and that’s suspicious.

See, there’s a rule that any cash transaction involving more than $10,000 has to be reported to the IRS. Hinders’ deposits didn’t hit that limit, and, nonsensically, the government says that’s a problem.
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She’s guilty until proven innocent.

Our government’s new principle of guilty until proven innocent goes beyond just the tactics of the IRS. 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was an American citizen who was killed by U.S. drone strike without charge or trial three years ago in Yemen. Abdulrahman was described as “a typical teenager—he watched ‘The Simpsons,’ listened to Snoop Dogg, read Harry Potter and had a Facebook page with many friends. He had a mop of curly hair, glasses [and] a wide, goofy smile.”

And then he was killed by a U.S. drone strike.

Abdulrahman wasn’t suspected of any crime, but apparently he was still considered guilty until proven innocent—or at least, guilty enough to be executed by hellfire raining from the sky.

Since this boy was assassinated, the convoluted statements we’ve received from the Obama Administration have reached a level of obfuscation worthy of the IRS.
...
It’s not just confusing government rules and rhetoric that make these two incidents similar. At first glance, a woman in Iowa losing $33,000 and a boy in Yemen losing his life may not seem to have much in common, but there’s a thread which ties these two stories together:

Both people were treated as if their most basic rights didn’t exist.

Both were victimized by a government that does what it wants, due process be damned.

Both were considered guilty until proven innocent.

Ultimately, stories like what happened to Carole Hinders and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki lead me inevitably—though unwillingly—to one conclusion: If the government can take your money and your life without proving you committed any crime, ‘innocent until proven guilty’ is officially dead in America.
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More:
http://rare.us/story/innocent-until-proven-guilty-is-officially-dead/