Kyle Rittenhouse trial & updates [Verdict: NOT GUILTY]

TheTexan said:
The note from juror 54 indicates they are still going back and forth with the magic fuzzy pixels.

Which implies to me, that there is at least 1 (likely more) immoveable object leftists.

Hopefully there are immoveable object right wingers to balance it.
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Hung jury then mistrial is a possibility
 
Anti Federalist said:
Why am I missing the significance of this?

Keep in mind I have not been following the minutiae of the case closely.
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I believe they are referring to the hocus pocus out of focus drone footage, whereby they obtained a still photo that allegedly shows Kyle pointing his gun. Of course it doesn't.. it's blurry.. and Kyle isn't left handed.. it kinda looks like he is pointing a left handed gun in the photo, but it was a digitally enhanced photo and impossible to tell what is going on.. I believe some people have already identified the artifact in the footage that makes it appear that way, something about a car mirror? The Judge warned the prosecutors against using the photo, it should not have been allowed at all.. but the Judge has been doing his best not to appear to be biased in favor of Kyle... by being biased against him..

There are already at least 4 or 5 different good reasons why this trial should have been called a mistrial with prejudice. 2 or 3 of them should easily result in criminal charges against the prosecution.

We may see that, the judge has already said he wants to see the prosecution testify under oath regarding the video evidence they sent to the defense, which ended up being a compressed video, different filename with a creation time of 22 minutes after the original high def version. They only found out because the defense played the video for the jury, and one of the prosecutors was like "Uh, we have a clearer video". My guess is the other prosecutor immediately had an "oh shit.." moment.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
Why am I missing the significance of this?

Keep in mind I have not been following the minutiae of the case closely.
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Kyle said he dropped the fire extinguisher as he was running away from Rosenbaum. The prosecutors kept insisting that he had time to set it down. The video was at best inconclusive, but in my mind, you could see Kyle moving pretty fast and he didn't stop to gently set it down.

The significance being that the prosecutors said he wasn't in fear for his life as he started running. They tried to get Kyle to say he set it down, but he held strong and said he dropped it to run. They wanted to use that point to say he wanted both of his hands free to shoot people.

But this jury member seems to have bought the prosecution "testimony" over the evidence.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
Why am I missing the significance of this?

Keep in mind I have not been following the minutiae of the case closely.
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The prosecution has repeatedly claimed, based on a nearly indecipherable 20x zoomed in 8px by 8px fuzzy block of pixels, that Kyle "put down the fire extinguisher and then raised his weapon at Rosenbaum, provoking the attack".

If Kyle had provoked the attack (he didnt) it greatly undermines his self defense claims.

The prosecutors lied to the judge when they said they had testimony and multiple pieces if evidence to corroborate it. (Their sole evidence was 1 single drone video zoomed in 20x). Noone really called them on it. The defense put up basically no fight in objecting to it.

Further - the prosecution supplied the defense with a lower res version, seemingly intentionally. It wasn't until Friday that the defense got the real copy.

If you have a leftist bias, you can see anything in that fuzzy block of pixels that you want to see. Like a rorschach test. The prosecution has decided that the fuzzy pixels shows Kyle provoking the attack. Which would require that Kyle was holding the gun left handed (Kyle is right handed). Absolutely none of this is corroborated by testimony or any other video.

An alternate interpretation of the fuzzy pixels is that Kyle was simply walking towards the camera with the gun slinged downward in front of him, which is consistent with the other evidence.

The fuzzy 8x8 block of pixels is impossible to prove either way. There is not a single reasonable jury that would find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on those pixels, yet the judge allowed it which triggered a provocation instruction.

Without the provocation instruction, the state had literally 0 basis for saying Kyle didn't act in self defense. Even the states own witnesses only helped, never hurt, Kyle's claims to self defense.

But with these fuzzy pixels all that goes out the window because Kyle had "provoked" the attack.

With these fuzzy pixels, the prosecutor gave the anti-Kyle jurors 1 inch of rope to hang on to, and it is with that 1 inch of rope they are trying to hang Kyle.

And the defense just let it happen.
 
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Anti Federalist said:
Why am I missing the significance of this?

Keep in mind I have not been following the minutiae of the case closely.
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In addition to what CaptUSA said:

The "zoomed-in image still" referred to in the note refers to an image extracted from an overhead drone video which has controversially been enhanced by an artificial-intelligence algorithm, supposedly to show that Rittenhouse pointed his gun at Zimickis (sp.?) and thus providing the "provocation" element needed by the prosecution to claim that Kyle did not act in self-defense.

/TheTexan-beat-me-to-it
 
Anti Federalist said:
Holy shit, right on cue:

Rittenhouse Judge Kicks MSNBC Out of Trial After Alleged Jury Stalking Incident

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/11/18/watch-rittenhouse-judge-kicks-msnbc-out-of-trial/

JOEL B. POLLAK 18 Nov 2021

Judge Bruce Schroeder of the Kenosha County Court in Wisconsin announced Thursday morning that he had ejected MSNBC from further coverage of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial after a man claiming to be a producer allegedly followed a bus containing jurors.

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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1461395429459902466


Additional tweets hidden to save space:
 

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1461401869201424386

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1461407740023255042

 
And somehow the drone video that took this footage took off at the exact right time, was pointed in the exact right direction, and zoomed in on the exact right spot, to see Kyle shoot Rosenbaum.

It's almost as if, they knew something was about to happen.

A reasonable theory is that it is a FBI drone, and it was surveilling an informant (possibly Zuminsky) and/or agitator.

Who launched the drone? Why? Why was it launched at just that moment, in that direction?

These are questions the defense was denied an opportunity to ask. The defense didn't even have the video until closing arguments.

Reason #273 for mistrial.
 
One thing to note, is that the prosecution only managed to sneak this into evidence because Kyle's testimony opened the door.

Never, ever talk to the police. Especially not on the stand on your own goddamn murder trial....
 
phill4paul said:
I don't know why the defense didn't ask either prosecutor if they would be willing to be hit in the head with a skateboard to prove that doing so is fine, wonderful, and no-worries. Kinda like a love tap. . They were willing to point a weapon at the jury so I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue.
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Those prosecutors would probably piss their pants if Rosenbaum ran at them, and sh!t their pants if they got kicked in the head or hit over the head with a skateboard.
 
Anti Federalist said:
9. Rittenhouse came to kill: Rittenhouse’s own testimony provided strong evidence that he had come to help. He offered medical assistance to rioters — even though he lied about being qualified to do so — and did not shoot anyone who did not attack him, even if they were armed and dangerous. One witness testified that Rittenhouse had even deescalated a conflict.

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The prosecution went even further than that. They said that Rittenhouse only worked as a lifeguard and cleaned walls in order to create a "good guy" alibi. Their story is that Rittenhouse is an evil psychopath that went to great lengths planning his opportunity to murder people.

As usual, those leftist prosecutors are probably projecting their own immoral evil onto Rittenhouse.
 
Could someone please post a screen shot of one frame from the video in question, with the "fuzzy pixels" area circled in red?

Please note, I'm not asking for a zoomed in shot; I'd like to see an entire frame. From that, perhaps I can reverse engineer what happens in the remainder of the video.

Thanks.
 
Suzu said:
Could someone please post a screen shot of one frame from the video in question, with the "fuzzy pixels" area circled in red?

Please note, I'm not asking for a zoomed in shot; I'd like to see an entire frame. From that, perhaps I can reverse engineer what happens in the remainder of the video.

Thanks.
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It's in the short video below.. I found it the other day, both versions side by side on google images.. I thought I had posted it, but can't find it now.



Here is a zoomed in version, notice that if he is "pointing the gun" it would appear he is holding it left handed.. but it could also just as easily be the strap, or something else.

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The section with the red arrow is impossible to place within the entire frame when zoomed out.
 
CaptUSA said:
Kyle said he dropped the fire extinguisher as he was running away from Rosenbaum. The prosecutors kept insisting that he had time to set it down. The video was at best inconclusive, but in my mind, you could see Kyle moving pretty fast and he didn't stop to gently set it down.

The significance being that the prosecutors said he wasn't in fear for his life as he started running. They tried to get Kyle to say he set it down, but he held strong and said he dropped it to run. They wanted to use that point to say he wanted both of his hands free to shoot people.

But this jury member seems to have bought the prosecution "testimony" over the evidence.
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Got it guys, thanks.
 
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