Kyle Rittenhouse trial & updates [Verdict: NOT GUILTY]

[TheTexan]

Black rifles emit a field that renders all smaller weapons inoperable.

Yes, I don't understand why Kyle would be afraid for his life when his attacker had only a measly 9mm. Everyone knows that an AR beats 9mm every time

 

[acptulsa]

Yes, I don't understand why Kyle would be afraid for his life when his attacker had only a measly 9mm. Everyone knows that an AR beats 9mm every time

Even though a 9mm makes a hole in you 1.8 times larger in diameter, and capable of letting your blood out two and a half times faster.

 

[RJB]

Yes, I don't understand why Kyle would be afraid for his life when his attacker had only a measly 9mm. Everyone knows that an AR beats 9mm every time

I bought a workout video called abs of steel. After 2 weeks, I am confident that I can stop a 9mm by tightening my abs.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Silver linings and red pills:

https://twitter.com/ThaddeusRussell/status/1458556778787053574

 

[sparebulb]

Silver linings and red pills:

https://twitter.com/ThaddeusRussell/status/1458556778787053574

^^^^THIS^^^^

In a big way!

Too bad that Boobus watchin Fox News will go back to his flag-waving, Brawndo guzzling, and boot-licking.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Silver linings and red pills:

https://twitter.com/ThaddeusRussell/status/1458556778787053574

That's kind of broad, honestly. I mean are we supposed to weigh opinions based on whether or not we like prosecutors or, the merits (or lack thereof) of the case?

 

[sparebulb]

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[Occam's Banana]

That's kind of broad, honestly. I mean are we supposed to weigh opinions based on whether or not we like prosecutors or, the merits (or lack thereof) of the case?

That's exactly the point he's trying to make.

We're supposed to "weigh [cases] on the merits (or lack thereof)" - but historically, Republicans/conservatives have heavily tended to side by default with prosecutions, despite the "innocent until proven guilty" principle.

And that cuts the other way, too. There's been an increasingly noticeable inversion of the stereotypical left vs.right positions on issues of civil liberties and the like. As Glenn Greenwald pointed out:

This is yet another one of those bizarre instances -- like 1/6 -- where much of the liberal-left is cheering for the prosecutors and championing pro-law-and-order theories, while the right is enthralled by civil liberties and defendants' rights.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Dear Self Loathing white Marxist:

No, I will not. In fact, I will defend him even more.

He took out the trash, is what he did.

ETA - $#@!ter is Cancer.

ETA 2 - $#@! Joe Biden.

That doesn't even answer the charges in that post, tho. He DID NOT drive across state lines with a gun, and he was in legal possession of that firearm. And by all evidence, he was not "looking for protestors to shoot". He did not commit any crimes that I can discern, certainly not murder. And I'll defend his actions as long as they are defensible. And I don't need the permission of some self-effacing, simple white scold to do so.

This isn't even a question of testimony - even though the testimony clearly bears out the facts of the case - it is a question of the fucking VIDEO evidence of the incident.

Just take an hour to watch the fucking video, you fucking simple bitch, and stop making a fool of yourself.

 

[nobody's_hero]

That's exactly the point he's trying to make.
. . .
but historically, Republicans/conservatives have heavily tended to side by default with prosecutions, despite the "innocent until proven guilty" principle.

Not usually in firearm related/self defense cases. That award for overzealous prosecution almost always goes to democrats, and this is no different. Seems to me Thaddeus tried to turn this into a "gotcha!" but failed miserably.

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Alex Baldwin needs to testify about gun safety and what to do when taking possession of a weapon.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Even though a 9mm makes a hole in you 1.8 times larger in diameter, and capable of letting your blood out two and a half times faster.

At that range, I'd rather have the Glock in my hand.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Silver linings and red pills:

https://twitter.com/ThaddeusRussell/status/1458556778787053574

Magically, there is a disconnect between the thin blue line and prosecutors in the minds of most "conservatives", I think.

 

[acptulsa]

That's exactly the point he's trying to make.

We're supposed to "weigh [cases] on the merits (or lack thereof)" - but historically, Republicans/conservatives have heavily tended to side by default with prosecutions, despite the "innocent until proven guilty" principle.

And that cuts the other way, too. There's been an increasingly noticeable inversion of the stereotypical left vs.right positions on issues of civil liberties and the like. As Glenn Greenwald pointed out:

And on issues like war. We had some success moving Republicans back toward the neighborhood of conservatism, and like magic, the media somehow got progs to wear jackboots.

At that range, I'd rather have the Glock in my hand.

Anybody with a lick of sense would. Of course, the prosecutor with the pompous pompadour lacks that, and thinks a person with a pistol has to stand bolt upright, place his second hand under the gun butt, extend his arms and close one eye to shoot someone four feet away.

Oh, and a pistol won't work (according to Pompous Pompadour) unless you first say, "I'm going to shoot you with this pistol now."

Magically, there is a disconnect between the thin blue line and prosecutors in the minds of most "conservatives", I think.

Never noticed that, myself.

 

[TheTexan]

Magically, there is a disconnect between the thin blue line and prosecutors in the minds of most "conservatives", I think.

Especially a prosecutor who wears pocket squares and lame ass lapel pins.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

And on issues like war. We had some success moving Republicans back toward the neighborhood of conservatism, and like magic, the media somehow got progs to wear jackboots.

They were always wearing jackboots. You just couldn't see them for the bell bottoms.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Not usually in firearm related/self defense cases. That award for overzealous prosecution almost always goes to democrats, and this is no different. Seems to me Thaddeus tried to turn this into a "gotcha!" but failed miserably.

It's not a "gotcha", nor do I think it is an attempt at one.

Russell is trying to prompt Republicans/conservatives to apply their skepticism of overzealous prosecutions to more than just a limited subset of cases (such as firearms/self-defense cases). And he is entirely correct to do so. Republican prosecutors are no less prone to indulging politicized and/or career-advancing, "notch in the belt"/"feather in the cap" prosecutions than Democrat prosecutors are.

ETA: All prosecutors should always be regarded with skepticism in all cases.

That is what the "presumption of innocence" is supposed to mean, after all.

 

[acptulsa]

It's not a "gotcha", nor do I think it is an attempt at one.

Russell is trying to prompt Republicans/conservatives to apply their skepticism of overzealous prosecutions to more than just a limited subset of cases (such as firearms/self-defense cases). And he is entirely correct to do so. Republican prosecutors are no less prone to indulging politicized and career-advancing, "notch in the belt" prosecutions than Democrat prosecutors are.

Looks that way to me. And I believe that until recently, the most overzealous ADAs have mostly been Republicans (certainly around here that's the case).

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Never noticed that, myself.

Let me correct myself - there is an emergent disconnect between the thin blue line and prosecutors in the minds of most conservatives.

Getting over the "protect and serve" police is gonna be a high hurdle for "the right". Pretty easy to get them over prosecutors, though.

 

[RJB]

Here is the full testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz. Starting at 22:00 it's just one lie after another exposed.