Krauthammer: Christie’s Remarks on Paul ‘Electrifying,’ ‘Extremely Important Moment’

[Brian4Liberty]

I work for one of those Neocon voters who said to me: "There's nothing wrong with security cameras, I think they should be everywhere."

Do the brainwashed know that they are brainwashed? They will come around, eventually. Nothing will piss them off more than when they finally realize that they have been lied to by the neo-conservatives.

 

[AuH20]

Do the brainwashed know that they are brainwashed? They will come around, eventually. Nothing will piss them off more than when they finally realize that they have been lied to by the neo-conservatives.

Read my post above yours for the answer. And there aren't alot of these voters, despite them being the most vocal. But there are enough to thwart us in a titanic battle with the Ice Queen.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Charles Krauthammer described New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s attack on Kentucky Senator Rand Paul’s foreign-policy views “fearless,” “electrifying,” and “an extremely important moment.”

I absolutely love this. Seriously. When neo-cons feel driven to apply such overblown rhetoric to describe utterly establishmentarian pronouncements like Christie's, then you know they've been badly rattled and are getting desperate.

Just consider one of the terms Krauthammer used: "fearless". Now what, pray tell, was "fearless" about what Christie said? It was just a straightforward regurgitation of the same sort of pablum that the government, the media, and neo-connish pundits have been feeding us for years. What "backlash" - what negative consequences - does Krauthammer imagine Christie risked by spouting shop-worn establishment talking points and cynically invoking tawdry emotionalism?

And "electrifying" ... ?? LMAO!! Yeah, right! Christie is really galvanizing the rank-and-file grassroots - who are just chomping at the bit in their enthusiasm for the "lots more of the same-old-same-old" neo-conservative agenda. What a joke!

Christie's dime-per-dozen defense of the status quo was about as "fearless" as a lion-tamer facing down a newborn cub. And it was about as "electrifying" as watching a sycophant smooching rectums.

Look at Justin Amash's efforts at curtailing the NSA's excesses - now THAT was "fearless," "electrifying," and "an extremely important moment." Christie's blather, on the other hand, is notable ONLY because of its jousty truculence. And best of all, Krauthammer & Co. know BOTH of these things - and are desperately trying to cover up the difference.

 

[RP Supporter]

Maybe John Kasich is the midwestern governor we need. He's been in Congress already and has a record. His foreign policy is decent. Rand will cover his weaknesses on guns (1 vote in the 90s) and Medicaid (Rand can do health reform).

I'd say definitely no. I recall watching the show Kasich used to have on Fox. He mentioned serving with Ron one night and made some personal attacks on the man.

Ah found it, on our very own forum no less.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?67714-John-Kasich-goes-off-on-Ron-Paul-Last-Night-on-Fox

Choice quote

Get outta here with that guy! You know, it's just unbelievable to me he's got this traction and I know I'm going to get a lot of nasty emails and blogs saying I don't get libertarians. I do. I think the guy, he's... he's out of another orbit as far as I'm concerned.

I'd rather not have someone like that as even a vp.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

another gem from Charles "The Kraut Hammer"

Made me think of this:

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I think it's great because it's bringing to light something many of us have been saying all along...you cannot build coalitions with some of these people...they have their own agenda.

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

 

[angelatc]

Any good liberty minded females out there in a national position. Ben Carson might be a good one if he's the real deal.

Ben Carson is not a Second AMendment guy.

 

[fr33]

Charles Krauthammer : First guy that brings a Domestic Drone down will be a folk hero (May 14, 2012)



Krauthammer Mocks Rand Paul For 'Absurd And Ridiculous' Drone Concerns: 'Not A Serious Issue' (March 11 2013)



Krauthammer is a puppet that says what he is told to say. He will flip flop on a dime. He represents the neoconservative establishment.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Look at Justin Amash's efforts at curtailing the NSA's excesses - now THAT was "fearless," "electrifying," and "an extremely important moment." Christie's blather, on the other hand, is notable ONLY because of its jousty truculence. And best of all, Krauthammer & Co. know BOTH of these things - and are desperately trying to cover up the difference.

+rep

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Charles Krauthammer : First guy that brings a Domestic Drone down will be a folk hero (May 14, 2012)



Krauthammer Mocks Rand Paul For 'Absurd And Ridiculous' Drone Concerns: 'Not A Serious Issue' (March 11 2013)



Krauthammer is a puppet that says what he is told to say. He will flip flop on a dime. He represents the neoconservative establishment.

Just a liar.

 

[AlexAmore]

In the recent PPP Poll, Rand only has 78% support of the party. The other 22% being the Bush/GOP loyalists I warned you about. Most republicans are pretty open-minded and not cold blooded but that 1/4 will go to their graves in a trance. This 22% could easily end up costing him the general election bigtime. He'll do fine with blue collar dems in the midwest and the independents. It's the goddamn Bush holdovers who are dangerous.

I wonder if we can make that up with an insurgence of independent, apathetic voters. A general election is something almost everyone pays attention too including the freaking world. I think a Libertarian message would play well in this situation.

 

[eduardo89]

Electrifying...that's how I wish Krauthammer's chair would feel.

 

[Paulatized]

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

Well said and an excellent point!

 

[Anti Federalist]

In the recent PPP Poll, Rand only has 78% support of the party. The other 22% being the Bush/GOP loyalists I warned you about. Most republicans are pretty open-minded and not cold blooded but that 1/4 will go to their graves in a trance. This 22% could easily end up costing him the general election bigtime. He'll do fine with blue collar dems in the midwest and the independents. It's the goddamn Bush holdovers who are dangerous.

I don't think so.

They won't stay home in Rand/Hitlery struggle.

Good, I say.

Let those fuckers hold their nose for once.

 

[Carlybee]

It also says something to the regular-joe GOP voter. See, we always knew that you couldn't build coalitions with these people, but nevertheless you have to try, and to make real effort to try sincerely. Now the more plain it becomes that WE are the ones trying to build the coalition while THEY are the ones rejecting us, the easier it will be to win the mainstream voter, because we are the mature adults in the room and they are the spoiled whining children.

I can't say enough how much more effective it is for our purposes to make them publicly stab themselves in the eye while we are the adults trying to take the dangerous toys away from the foolish children.

good point

 

[CaptUSA]

I find it terribly beautiful and ironic that the last gasps of the henchmen of the tyrants bring together everyone in the liberty movement. Sure, we may disagree about a lot of things... a LOT of things... but when they come at one of us, we come back twice as hard and with twice as many numbers. Ron Paul's legacy is amazing!

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I find it terribly beautiful and ironic that the last gasps of the henchmen of the tyrants bring together everyone in the liberty movement. Sure, we may disagree about a lot of things... a LOT of things... but when they come at one of us, we come back twice as hard and with twice as many numbers. Ron Paul's legacy is amazing!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I absolutely love this. Seriously. When neo-cons feel driven to apply such overblown rhetoric to describe utterly establishmentarian pronouncements like Christie's, then you know they've been badly rattled and are getting desperate.

They have to be desperate. Up till now, the true neo-conservative backroom agenda has been based on a strategy of secrecy and stealth, lies and manipulations. Taking off the gloves and coming out in the light leaves them vulnerable for more exposure than they want. They prefer to have their politicians like Graham and McCain out there taking the punches.

The have been forced to come out. The combination of Rand, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz has become too popular to the mainstream GOP. Then Amash leads a huge, nearly successful campaign to save the Fourth Amendment in the House. They are trying to rally whoever will listen to them anymore, and they are getting the angry "Eric Bolling" response back. Not good news for Kristol and Krauthammer.

 

[Britannia]

If dear old Charlie doesn't understand the rather significant difference between isolationism and non-interventionism he really ought not to be on a panel discussing politics at all.

 

[eduardo89]

If dear old Charlie doesn't understand the rather significant difference between isolationism and non-interventionism he really ought not to be on a panel discussing politics at all.

This is a guy who doesn't know the difference between donuts and vegetables...