Kokesh Arrested

[Lucille]

I'll contribute to a legal defense fund as soon as it's set up.

This is "Free Roger Pion" x 1000

Me too.

Yea what happened with him?

Vermont resident Roger Pion, who crushed 6 police cruisers with tractor, ruled not competent for trial
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...uisers)-More-Harassment&p=5034105#post5034105

 

[amy31416]

They probably don't care about jail as much as they care about prohibiting him from owning firearms.

And subsequently getting him for a "real" illegal act so they can lock him up for good.

He's smart to not talk. I rule nothing out in what's really going on though.

 

[MrTudo]

He'll lose his right to carry while this goes to trial? If this goes to trial?

The way this works you see is it's a felony and it's federal. You take it to trial and lose and you will get the max. Federal time means you'll do more of that time than you would if it's state time. If you take a plea then you also will lose your rights and for a period of years he'll have some jerk off who can't figure out how to be a productive human being, now a probation officer will essentially invade ak's privacy when and where he chooses so yes that also means surprise piss tests etc and if the piss test doesn't reveal anything then surely the fking hair test will and then a violation occurs and that's usually followed by some time. How much time I don't know but time and remember, when you are in? You stay in until you are out. Anyone who did time knows what that means.

I would be too candid for this place so let me just leave it with ak is in deep trouble.

I'm a little confused though, when a police arrests you on a federal charge like this, is that arrest automatic, meaning is that arrest automatically accepted by the courts or does a judge have to accept it? I realize this may seem like a stupid question, pardon me if this is the case however it just seems over the top here. This guy is a nobody. Nobody. A gnat fly. To actually have what appears that these "police" were locked on ak from the start just seems bizarre. Not trying to insult the guy but who the heck is adam kokesh to anybody? Really.

So this just gets more and more bizarre however my prediction is it continues down this path for many years to come. Look how few can even define liberty much less be willing to really go the extra mile to attain it for themselves much less for the masses. Can't even identify it, people flock to whoever "seems" to be on their side . This kind of shit has been going on for a long time.

 

[RickyJ]

Because when they arrested him, they didn't know what they were arresting him for?

It just seems odd to me. When they arrest someone protocol is they cuff them first, then take them away.

 

[JK/SEA]

Looks like the Liberty movement potentially has themselves an honest to God martyr.

So be it.

This will not be forgotten.

There is an old tradition in battlefield etiqutte and honor. If the flag bearer falls, someone else picks up the flag and keeps marching...

 

[CPUd]

He'll lose his right to carry while this goes to trial? If this goes to trial?

The way this works you see is it's a felony and it's federal. You take it to trial and lose and you will get the max. Federal time means you'll do more of that time than you would if it's state time. If you take a plea then you also will lose your rights and for a period of years he'll have some jerk off who can't figure out how to be a productive human being, now a probation officer will essentially invade ak's privacy when and where he chooses so yes that also means surprise piss tests etc and if the piss test doesn't reveal anything then surely the fking hair test will and then a violation occurs and that's usually followed by some time. How much time I don't know but time and remember, when you are in? You stay in until you are out. Anyone who did time knows what that means.

I would be too candid for this place so let me just leave it with ak is in deep trouble.

I'm a little confused though, when a police arrests you on a federal charge like this, is that arrest automatic, meaning is that arrest automatically accepted by the courts or does a judge have to accept it? I realize this may seem like a stupid question, pardon me if this is the case however it just seems over the top here. This guy is a nobody. Nobody. A gnat fly. To actually have what appears that these "police" were locked on ak from the start just seems bizarre. Not trying to insult the guy but who the heck is adam kokesh to anybody? Really.

So this just gets more and more bizarre however my prediction is it continues down this path for many years to come. Look how few can even define liberty much less be willing to really go the extra mile to attain it for themselves much less for the masses. Can't even identify it, people flock to whoever "seems" to be on their side . This kind of shit has been going on for a long time.

It may have been him being on Fox News earlier calling the DC Chief a criminal that caught their attention, and they wanted to show up and give him a proper welcome to Philly. But they also knew ahead of time what was going to happen at that rally. It could just be that he was one of the 3 who had the mic, and those guys got keyed on as soon as they gave the word to light up.

Either way, they are going to make it where if he shows up in DC, they are gonna make him a fugitive- his life will never be the same, even if he wins this case.

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

Poor Adam.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Poor Adam.

Poor all of us...

 

[Anti Federalist]

Nor have I forgotten the many that have gone before, that, while never setting out to be martyrs, nevertheless, ended up one.

Looks like the Liberty movement potentially has themselves an honest to God martyr.

So be it.

This will not be forgotten.

There is an old tradition in battlefield etiqutte and honor. If the flag bearer falls, someone else picks up the flag and keeps marching...

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

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[JK/SEA]

Once a federal complaint is filed against you, you are in big trouble, unless you have millions for lawyers.

any god damn lawyer with a brain can make this a 'frivilous' case and get it tossed. This potentially could go sideways against the FEDS, especially if this goes viral and hits the mainstream media. The spin could be..''activist planning a march 7/4 arrested on bogus charges,'' and the appearence of harassment could be floated...

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

... I'm a little confused though, when a police arrests you on a federal charge like this, is that arrest automatic, meaning is that arrest automatically accepted by the courts or does a judge have to accept it?

Under FRCrimP 5.1, he has the right to a prompt "preliminary hearing" before a judge to determine whether there's probable cause to continue the case. If Philadelphia is like southern Arizona, he'll be denied that right through some slight-of-hand where a pretend defense lawyer signs a waiver (see also this and this), falsely claiming Kokesh consented to it.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

any god damn lawyer with a brain can make this a 'frivilous' case and get it tossed.

Unless his brain tells him it's more profitable to sell out his client.

 

[paulbot24]

Under FRCrimP 5.1, he has the right to a prompt "preliminary hearing" before a judge to determine whether there's probable cause to continue the case. If Philadelphia is like southern Arizona, he'll be denied that right through some slight-of-hand where a pretend defense lawyer signs a waiver (see also this), falsely claiming Kokesh consented to it.

And then when you ask to see it, they say they can't find it.......You say that like you speak from experience......Nahh.....

 

[Brian4Liberty]

So let's summarize:

- The IRS/FBI/ATF is being used for harassment and intimidation of political speech.
- The Obama/Holder Justice Department is illegally spying on the media.
- An internet blogger and protester is being held without bail on trumped up charges by the Federal Government.

There's no doubt that Adam is a now political prisoner. Has anyone contacted Amnesty International?

There's a reason that Obama, Immelt and friends all love communist/corporatist China. Political speech must be crushed.

 

[Aratus]

neat photoshop! its about cause and effect! they gotta free adam kokesh!

 

[tmg19103]

These are the most blatant, trumped up charges imaginable.

Why? We all know - the DC march. Why the mention of possible drug use? Corrupt feds are covering all their bases.

Under federal law:

Indictment or Information for a Felony - This person (indicted for a felony or has a felony information filed against him) has restrictions placed on his firearms activity. He may continue to lawfully possess the firearms and ammunition he already has, but may not ship or take them across State lines and may not acquire more firearms or ammunition affecting interstate commerce: § 922

DC law may even have a law that anyone under indictment for a felony may not own or possess a firearm at all.

Under federal law you may not own or possess a firearm if you are a:

Drug user or addict.

 

[Aratus]

double whammy. that technicality has high odds of alex jones stepping in
and becoming semi~responsible as a spokesman for the 5000 person march.

 

[Root]

neat photoshop! its about cause and effect! they gotta free adam kokesh!

For the record, it's not my work. See something, share something.

 

[ninepointfive]

For the record, it's not my work. See something, share something.

wow - that's gold. if i had some video editing skills, this would be something to devote some time too.