Kokesh Arrested

[Aratus]

I'm trying to do something sorta semi~pro!active

I've created a gonzo FREE ADAM KOKESH thread...

I'm hoping he is allowed to be out on bail a.s.a.p

 

[Aratus]

i feel its the upcoming JULY marches in d.c on the 3rd + 4th that had an "arm"
of the Federal gov't trying to smite poor Adam Kokesh into the pavement totally.
y'all know the oval office has had a phone line easily since the days of Bill McKinley.
y'all know LBJ spent half his presidency on the phone lines an' i do not exaggerate.
i had assumed our sitting potus was more fax, internet + blackberry than LBJ!!!

 

[kathy88]

Wow. I'm steamed. I just read that complaint. What a PUSSY that fed is. Waaa he grabbed my arm. So let's charge him with a felony that could send him to jail for 10 years. Why don't they just fucking rename it contempt of cop and get it over with. Holy shit I'm pissed.

 

[Aratus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Aratus]

Luv... could we take the whole marijuana debate to the FREEDOM LIVING forum as we try to see that ADAM K. gets out
on bail and hires a good attorney? his civil rights that are more closer to HABEAS CORPUS than they are his presumed
CANNABIS intake or not are more to the point of this. i think the LAPD once jumped Rodney King in an ungodly manner.

 

[sailingaway]

Is it practical to use P2P technology / torrents? So there's no incentive for JBT's to confiscate your servers? I'm not up on technology, but P2P seems to be the only defense against cover-ups.

I haven't any idea what you are talking about. A game system? Not techy, sorry.

I don't think we'd have anything anyone else didn't have. We will just be collecting them in one place for organized review.

 

[sailingaway]

Luv... could we take the marijuana debate to the FREEDOM LIVING forum as we try to see that ADAM gets out on bail and hires a good attorney?

good idea, it will take a while to split out that discussion but I'll put a couple in there, and then I'll add to it as I go through the thread so people can continue that side discussion there.

 

[QuickZ06]

You said that people, while high, aren't good for anything.

How about instead of us trying to give all our examples to disprove your statement, you actually provide some well-founded evidence for your claim.

Sorry LE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[phill4paul]

Wow. I'm steamed. I just read that complaint. What a PUSSY that fed is. Waaa he grabbed my arm. So let's charge him with a felony that could send him to jail for 10 years. Why don't they just fucking rename it contempt of cop and get it over with. Holy shit I'm pissed.

Certainly. There was a permit for the protest. Adam was not smoking.. The fedcoats went straight for him. Theye knew what theye were doing. Theye know that he does not meekly submit however his resistance is passive in nature. They will probably try to get him to plea as long as he accepts that he won't protest for a set time period to quash the march. This, they will find, Adam will not do.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

I haven't any idea what you are talking about. A game system? Not techy, sorry.

I don't think we'd have anything anyone else didn't have. We will just be collecting them in one place for organized review.

Yeah you are right. In the short-term, for all practical purposes.

I was just thinking that in the long-term, it might behoove liberty-minded people to make greater use of P2P networks for storing any data the government has an interest in disappearing. You can't wipe out P2P data by confiscating a single server. But it needs to be something you don't need a PhD to operate. I'm not up on the technology right now. Someone recommended this to me,

http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html

but I haven't read through it yet.

 

[sailingaway]

I can answer that. You see, potheads are notoriously lazy and irresponsible. If they grant bail, Adam might get himself so high while sitting on his couch at home that he forgets to show up for his next court date.

And he'll be high as a kite. So you see, he's a flight risk.

now, that pun, I could see you being arrested for...

 

[Aratus]

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Sailingaway again!

 

[american.swan]

MLK was asking for it too I suppose.

I wonder how many people were skeptical of MLK.
Kokesh should NOT say anything about MLK, but if others labeled him the next MLK, it might help our overall cause. Give the causes more media attention.

 

[sailingaway]

Do you live in a small town? Because I do, and I can tell you officers enforce just as many unconstitutional laws here and haven't a clue what the Constitution is about. It's not even debatable that virtually all police enforce unconstitutional laws. The system operates this way all over the country, not just in urban areas. They're there to generate revenue, and believe me, every small town needs revenue. Most kids who want to be police want to be police because of the propaganda. I thought it was cool once, but I grew out of it. The only people who take that kind of job now, even if they are good-intentioned, end up enforcing unconstitional laws. You seem to think that good intentions excuses evil behavior, and with that I vehemently disagree.

No, I just require evidence of the evil behavior.

 

[JK/SEA]

4,607 going to march as of 2:30pm pacific time.

 

[sailingaway]

What reason? Did the people who banned Kokesh publish their reasons, so the rest of us can evaluate them for ourselves?

No, it is just that every single person on this forum was 100% on board with every decision -- particularly late in the campaign decision - - campaign staff made. At least, I assume that is why an appeal to this authority is tendered as potentially persuasive.

 

[torchbearer]

From a facebook post:

''If you are trying to call to inquire about Adam's status at the Federal facility in Pennsylvania - you need to have his inmate ID number, or you will wait on hold forever, and then they will not talk to you. The number is: 215-521-4000 (wait a few seconds, then press 0). They will ask for his inmate ID, which is 69371-066. If you don't have that number, they will refer you to the WRONG website to obtain it. It is a stalling mechanism.''

kinda important

 

[Root]

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/05/20/...ce-adam-kokesh-anti-war-activist-is-arrested/

 

[Lucille]

http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/05/20/...ce-adam-kokesh-anti-war-activist-is-arrested/

Many in the libertarian movement have caustically criticized Kokesh for his brazenness. Granted, a group of armed libertarians meeting up with DC police squads could be very dangerous, despite promises to remain peaceful. But most of the criticism I’ve seen hurled at Kokesh seems more about criticizing civil disobedience and activism in general, concerned it will reflect poorly on their deferential image. Too many want to regulate the behavior of libertarians and keep things strictly to suits, ties, academic seminars, and writing pedantic policy papers barely anyone will read – as if that’s the only acceptable or productive way to push libertarian ideas.

Ain't that the truth.

...You can also see from the several videos taken at the scene that Kokesh did not resist arrest, and instead put his hands up and stood straight while several officers man-handled him.

According to freeadam.net Kokesh is being charged with grabbing an officers arm after being pushed – a “felony assault.” The video doesn’t show any evidence of that allegation, but either way, the arrest is an affront to liberty.

As Anthony Gregory writes today, “Resisting arrest is a troubling derivative crime, whereby the state can basically push you around, and if you even react naturally (or the state says you did), it can haul you away. Putting aside problems of arrest, jailing, and the state itself, there should be no crime of ‘resisting arrest’ in a semi-free society. Either you committed a violation of someone’s rights or you did not. If you did not, you have a moral right to resist.”

[...] what we have here is a peaceful activist, a non-violent resister, and he’s been thrown in jail not for being harmful to anybody’s person or property, but for being disobedient in the face of unjust laws. The latter is a crime only to those with authoritarian inclinations and a calm respect for the police state.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Political prisoner.