Kent Snyder on WHO radio (Iowa) now!!

[JoshLowry]

There were a lot of angry people yesterday.

It doesn't surprise me. I don't condone it, but there are so many passionate people following Dr. Paul it's just going to happen. What they did was wrong, but two wrongs don't make a right.

Make a road trip to Iowa and show your support.

 

[DrStrabismus]

Failor and Anuzis should get together and start a support group for themselves

 

[LibertyCzar]

http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Petition_to_Invite_Ron_Paul_to_Iowa_Debate

Digg this before it is buried.

 

[mdh]

Making phone number's of his children and wife and encouraging people to call and harass them is a good idea? With supporter's like that, who needs enemies?

I disagree with you, as did most people wen the home phone numbers were posted for his family members. Yet, whoever is behind this went about posting those numbers all over the internet, Digg, other forums, etc., regardless of the blowback they recieved from Ron Paul supporter's. Useful idiot or pretend Ron Paul supporter?

No one posted any numbers that were not registered to people directly involved with the organizations in question. Allegations of family members, children, wives, etc numbers are just that - unfounded allegations made by the enemies of this movement. If you feel otherwise, post proof. I am calling you out on making such allegations. Until you've posted proof that any numbers that were posted anywhere were not the numbers of those at the top of the organizations in questions, I can't consider this a serious matter, only more rhetoric from our enemies.
One note: Edward Failor Junior and Senior are both high-ups in the taxrelief.org crew, and so Ed Senior's "child"s phone number was likely posted as well. If that's what you're talking about, then please check their website and note that both of these individuals are officers in the organization.

Moderation in the pursuit of liberty is no virtue.

 

[hells_unicorn]

If he didn't want to get called at home at all hours he should have thought about that before he acted like a complete jackass. If you're going to pull crap like this, make sure your number is unlisted, otherwise cry to someone else because I'll have none of it.

People seriously need to stop walking on eggshells here, these people are walking all over us and some people are going a bit too far out of their way to give these people respect that they are clearly not worthy of.

 

[DrStrabismus]

hopefully their offices are not too jammed up for any Iowans to get through!

 

[AlexAmore]

YES, I am SURE it came from RP supporters.

I was sent an email at 10 last night through the meetup site, it listed home phone numbers and encouraged calls.

I objected, and was pretty much told to sit down and shut up.

I knew this was PRECISELY what would happen.

I have noticed from the beginning that Ron Paul supporters haven't quite learned the concept of blowback themselves. They think they can be as fringe, whacky, and crazy as they want when getting his name out. First 9/11, then the plastering of Ron Paul signs all over town idea, and now this.

It's not about the truth of anything...it's about PERCEPTION OF THE MASSES! We need a good perception for the masses

 

[MsDoodahs]

I know that the good mods here did their best to keep the bad apples from posting home numbers, but people are going to do what they are going to do.

They alone are responsible for their personal actions.

They are adults and knew that this would be a likely outcome from such outrageous behavior.

They chose - as self responsible individuals - to do it ANYWAY.

That it reflects so badly on the Paul campaign is unfortunate.

 

[mdh]

No sense crying over spilled milk. If he doesn't want harassing phone calls, maybe he should try ... you know ... playing fair?

Not condoning what was done, but I've emailed and faxed and been a good boy.

If you don't want a phone number to be public then don't... err... make it public! All of the phone numbers that I had posted, I confirmed to be public numbers. I would never promote the invasion of someone's privacy by reposting private/unlisted numbers.

 

[UCFGavin]

YES, I am SURE it came from RP supporters.

I was sent an email at 10 last night through the meetup site, it listed home phone numbers and encouraged calls.

I objected, and was pretty much told to sit down and shut up.

I knew this was PRECISELY what would happen.

there is a difference between calling and harassing. just because people were calling doesn't mean they were all like that.

 

[LibertyEagle]

" Originally Posted by mdh
I disagree, I think that making all of the information available to people is a good way to go. Fostering a spirit of openness and freedom is a big part of most of our ideals. The numbers that had been posted were all public, how people use them is up to them. I for one do not believe that anyone made any threats or was disrespectful. Those things sound like lies by our enemies."

I'm sorry, what do people not understand about the fact that OUR behavior reflects on Dr. Paul's campaign? If we want to give the man a chance, we MUST conduct ourselves in an honorable manner. There are all kinds of whack jobs on the internet as a whole. When we publish home numbers to the general public (for example, on DIGG), we are inviting both honorable people AND whack jobs to call these numbers, in the name of Dr. Paul's campaign. As supporters of Ron Paul, is this the kind of example we want to set? In my opinion, the answer is a resounding NO.

 

[mdh]

I have noticed from the beginning that Ron Paul supporters haven't quite learned the concept of blowback themselves. They think they can be as fringe, whacky, and crazy as they want when getting his name out. First 9/11, then the plastering of Ron Paul signs all over town idea, and now this.

It's not about the truth of anything...it's about PERCEPTION OF THE MASSES! We need a good perception for the masses

The actions by supporters are blowback against these idiots in Iowa who chose to exclude Dr. Paul. That's blowback. To try and make it sound like the Ron Paul activists fired the first shots or something is silly. Furthermore, any allegations of threatening or harassing behavior are unfounded allegations and no more until proof is made public. Or have you forgotten 'innocent until proven guilty'?

 

[cujothekitten]

I don't condone it but honestly it's bound to happen. I'm sure every candidate gets some rough mail... this is no different.

If you do something to piss people off you're bound to get some grief for it. This goes for anyone regardless of political position.

 

[Liberty]

It sounds like Failor isn't going to budge. At minimum, the event should be protested with Iowans in front. If Dr. Paul was able to speak outside the event, he would probably draw a larger crowd than the event.

 

[LibertyCzar]

http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/Petition_to_Invite_Ron_Paul_to_Iowa_Debate

Digg this before it is buried.

We should silently Digg this, without even adding comments. The information is self evident. There is no reason to get into virtual shoving matches.

 

[torchbearer]

Is there a Iowa meet-up group on this?

 

[mdh]

It sounds like Failor isn't going to budge. At minimum, the event should be protested with Iowans in front. If Dr. Paul was able to speak outside the event, he would probably draw a larger crowd than the event.

That would be awesome.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If he didn't want to get called at home at all hours he should have thought about that before he acted like a complete jackass. If you're going to pull crap like this, make sure your number is unlisted, otherwise cry to someone else because I'll have none of it.

People seriously need to stop walking on eggshells here, these people are walking all over us and some people are going a bit too far out of their way to give these people respect that they are clearly not worthy of.

Well, stick to your guns, unicorn. By all means. We will also end up with NONE of Ron Paul.

 

[UCFGavin]

It sounds like Failor isn't going to budge. At minimum, the event should be protested with Iowans in front. If Dr. Paul was able to speak outside the event, he would probably draw a larger crowd than the event.

Ron Paul supporters should also be there handing out papers with Dr. Paul's voting record regarding tax.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Cujo, I agree totally.

I chose - as a self responsible individual - not to participate in calling those folks at home because I personally view that as a form of harrassment.

Others chose differently.

Now, they get to own it.