Keeping Ron Paul Supporters

[Travlyr]

From the article,

Paul supporters are outside of mainstream conservatism but with the right approach and right agenda, we can appeal to enough of them to rebuild an economic free market conservative majority.

Modern "mainstream conservatism" embraces Wilson's 'Progressive Movement', Roosevelt's 'New Deal', Johnson's 'Great Society', and the military-prison-medical industrial complexes expansions of power. There is nothing conservative about it at all. The Republican Party have lost their way.

Ron Paul is much more closely aligned with true conservatism. Republican Party Platform

For me it is No One But Paul in 2012 because I have no other choice, and if the Republican party is not going to stand on the principles of rule by law, then after 40 years... I'm out for good.

 

[Kandilynn]

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I am a Paul supporter, and I would be willing to vote for the nominee, in a fair race. As it stands, it hasn’t been a fair race. The news and pundits have all blacked out my candidate, they have refused to mention him. They have given him the least amount of time in any debate. They have not given the American people a fair chance to listen to his platform and his ideas. They constantly call him unelectable even though he polls better against Obama with independents. And that makes me, and other Paul supporters angry. If the Republican Party wants to treat us as outsiders and fringe, then we won’t play along when they push our candidate out of the race. Now, if the American people were given a real opportunity to hear out Ron Paul’s ideas and platform and they still didn’t agree with him, then I would choose the candidate that aligns closest to my ideal candidate, and that would most likely be the Republican.

 

[Bruno]

I'm in contact with a few Ron Paul supporters through Facebook who feel exactly as we do...No One But Paul. I don't think those of us on this board are alone!

Most Ron Paul supporters inherently feel that way already, but the phrase No One But Paul has definitely spread. I see it in comment sections all over.

 

[georgiaboy]

man, some of the best comments I've ever seen are on that post. Excellent work, people!

Oh, and NOBP!

 

[georgiaboy]

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I am a Paul supporter, and I would be willing to vote for the nominee, in a fair race. As it stands, it hasn’t been a fair race. The news and pundits have all blacked out my candidate, they have refused to mention him. They have given him the least amount of time in any debate. They have not given the American people a fair chance to listen to his platform and his ideas. They constantly call him unelectable even though he polls better against Obama with independents. And that makes me, and other Paul supporters angry. If the Republican Party wants to treat us as outsiders and fringe, then we won’t play along when they push our candidate out of the race. Now, if the American people were given a real opportunity to hear out Ron Paul’s ideas and platform and they still didn’t agree with him, then I would choose the candidate that aligns closest to my ideal candidate, and that would most likely be the Republican.

I must admit, a part of my sentiment against voting for any other GOP candidate comes from what you've stated. Ron and his supporters have obviously been much maligned by the GOP and the media -- including the networks, the cable news stations, their websites, and even the so-called 'conservative' talk show and talk radio hosts and pundits. Never have I been so enraged by the ignoring, the venom, smearing, misrepresenting, demagoguing, and flat out lying about a candidate as I have by closely following the Ron Paul campaign. Since when are 'conservative' talking heads so afraid of cutting the gov't and following the constitution, and backing a man who has proven for decades that he'd do just that?

Nevertheless, if the GOP had another candidate on that stage next to Ron Paul that I knew could be trusted to implement actual small gov't constitutional republic policies, I'd be happy to cast my vote for him/her. But Romney/Gingrich/Santorum/Perry/Bachmann/Huntsman/Cain/Palin/McCain?? Absolutely never. For all their small gov't talk, their records and policies reveal them to be big gov't democrat-lite.

So this go 'round, as in 2008, it's NOBP.

 

[southernsontn]

Might as well add mine

southernsontn on January 24, 2012 at 4:08 pm
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Without even realizing it, the author of this article has effectively shown exactly the reason why the GOP can not hope to attract Ron Paul supporters without Ron Paul. We do not believe in “Isolationism”, in fact, we believe quite the opposite. Under a Ron Paul presidency, the US would be less isolated than we have in many decades. A Ron Paul presidency would end multiple unjust foreign wars, blanket bombings of countries that have done nothing to us, an end to ridiculous trade embargos, and would encourage the type of atmosphere which could lead to positive relations with foreign nations, rather than trying to be the bully on the lock. Bombing other countries does not promote national security, it actually hurts it, by encouraging blowback from nations that otherwise have no reason to want to harm us. For years now, politicians from both sides have worked to rob Americans of our money, our civil liberties, and our security. With the exception of Dr. Paul, every other candidate for the executive office has stated on numerous occasions that they are enthusiastic about continuing down this dangerous path, and have in fact criticized and ridiculed Dr. Paul for being the only candidate offering real solutions. You say that four more years of Obama is unacceptable, and Ron Paul supporters agree. Where we disagree however is that party line Republicans believe that a GOP candidate who offers no significant differences from our current failure-in-chief is somehow better just because he’s got that little (R) by his name. Paul supporters see past the thin veneer of party line propaganda and realize that for true change to occur, someone needs to rise with real answers. That candidate is Ron Paul. If he wins, you will have no problems attracting Ron Paul supporters. If anyone else gets the nomination, that is fine, but don’t expect us to sell out our principles and vote for someone who is the antithesis of our principles. You say a party line Republican is the lesser of two evils, I say they are still evil. Thank you for your time.

The part that I find ironic is that the GOP is scared of a Ron Paul presidency, but they are just as scared of losing his fan base. They know Ron Paul is honest, which is why they keep trying to get him to pledge not to run third party, thinking that RP supporters would vote Party Line. what they don't realize is how many of us are RP Reublicans only.

 

[georgiaboy]

Might as well add mine



The part that I find ironic is that the GOP is scared of a Ron Paul presidency, but they are just as scared of losing his fan base. They know Ron Paul is honest, which is why they keep trying to get him to pledge not to run third party, thinking that RP supporters would vote Party Line. what they don't realize is how many of us are RP Reublicans only.

Yep. They pander to us - Newt's mentioning of the gold standard and the fed are to recent ones that just make me chuckle -- but ultimately they just want us to vote for their pick so they can perpetuate the jingo big gov't money printing cronyism.

Folks here on the boards have talked about what we should call ourselves. Though I prefer we remain individually distinct (avoids the marginalization that labeling invites), keying in on your post and my other usage of the term, honest conservative is mine.

 

[Shane Harris]

I'm in contact with a few Ron Paul supporters through Facebook who feel exactly as we do...No One But Paul. I don't think those of us on this board are alone!

I hope so! Trust me I'm NOBP

 

[georgiaboy]

I'm in contact with a few Ron Paul supporters through Facebook who feel exactly as we do...No One But Paul. I don't think those of us on this board are alone!

Based on 2008, the same folks who were pissed at McCain will also be pissed at Romney/Gingrich/Santorum.

 

[southernsontn]

Yep. They pander to us - Newt's mentioning of the gold standard and the fed are to recent ones that just make me chuckle -- but ultimately they just want us to vote for their pick so they can perpetuate the jingo big gov't money printing cronyism.

Folks here on the boards have talked about what we should call ourselves. Though I prefer we remain individually distinct (avoids the marginalization that labeling invites), keying in on your post and my other usage of the term, honest conservative is mine.

Although I'm not particularly fond of labels, as it tends to invite attempts at collectivism, normally I simply refer to myself as a "constitutional xxxxx" generally dependent upon who I'm speaking to. while I personally believe that there is virtually no real difference between libertarianism and real conservativism, I have found that constitutional conservative generally garners a more positive response, and invites open dialogue in regards to real constitutional conservativism/libertarianism as opposed to neo-conservativism, which gives me the chance to educate people on the fact that by voting for a Neo-Con, they are really, literally, voting for a principle that is rooted in progressivism. For those who are interested in honest conversation, I have found that by explicitly connecting my position with the constitution, and by having the knowledge necessary to actually back up my facts with actual constitutional passages, and being able to show them the passage (I carry a pocket constitution with me) I can actually get some of those people interested in learning more about Dr. Paul. todays lesson here, read and know your constitution.

 

[RonPaulMyPresident]

Those Republican warmonger candidates know there are a lot of us and they're looking to get us.

WE HAVE TO BE MORE STUBBORN AND AGGRESSIVE.

RON PAUL OR NO ONE

 

[Pyyro]

The Republican Party will die without Ron Paul and people like him. Why vote Republican when they sound mean when you can vote Democrat where you're promised free stuff? The Democrats have made it clear where they stand, and now there's upheaval in the Republican party regarding where to go. Liberty or tyranny? Two parties for tyranny will kill the Republican Party and result in an alternative movement.

Or tyranny wins.

 

[mport1]

Any Ron Paul supporter who would ever vote for Romney, Newt, or Rick clearly don't understand Ron Paul's message.

 

[affa]

Those Republican warmonger candidates know there are a lot of us and they're looking to get us.

WE HAVE TO BE MORE STUBBORN AND AGGRESSIVE.

RON PAUL OR NO ONE

it's not an issue of being stubborn. it's an issue of being ethical.

i'm not being stubborn when I say 'No One But Paul'. I'm stating a simple fact. There is absolutely no way I will vote to continue or expand our wars, and that's what every single other candidate represents. And I can say the same thing about many other issues as well, such as civil liberties.

 

[JustinL]

I think that many in the GOP understand quite well the idea behind 'no one but Paul'. The same reason that we won't vote for any of the others is why they're willing to lose with Romney or Gingrich. They won't get as much as they want out of Obama, but Paul destroys their game. They're trying to guilt us and play mind games with us to siphon off our softer support as much as they can. I think they know they can't get Paul's hard support. So keep that in mind, we're going to have soft support and the more support the better, but whenever you can help make it harder support you solidify the movement more and that will help to make a republican loss worse should Paul not get the nomination. If they don't nominate Paul then we want them to lose by as wide a margin as possible to know their game is ending. If Paul doesn't win I'll consider a critical blow to the two party system a nice secondary goal.

Personally if Paul doesn't get the nomination I'd like to vote 3rd party or write in just to show that I'm willing and able to vote and that they simply failed to earn my vote.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The author responded to my comment:

You have a choice, you can either help the GOP wins in 2012 and influence the Party from within or you can sit on the sideline and have no impact.

No, you have a choice, either nominate RP or prepare for four more years of Obama.

Without us, you lose, and every other machine candidate is in no appreciable way any different than Obama.

No One But Paul

ETA - this whole thread is full of win

 

[Anti Federalist]

Not to mention the fact that the GOP boneheads who dismiss RP are dismissing the one man who is best able to actually beat Obama.

 

[Dsylexic]

"influence the party from within". d-uh.that WILL happen in anycase.give ron the nomination or the gop gets it //gun

 

[klamath]

Might as well add mine



The part that I find ironic is that the GOP is scared of a Ron Paul presidency, but they are just as scared of losing his fan base. They know Ron Paul is honest, which is why they keep trying to get him to pledge not to run third party, thinking that RP supporters would vote Party Line. what they don't realize is how many of us are RP Reublicans only.

When you say something like this you strike no fear in them. From history they know they have won elections without your vote so if you threaten to not vote for them now they will say "so what". If they believe you have been part of republican victories in the past and are now leaving, that scares them!

 

[cajuncocoa]

No, you have a choice, either nominate RP or prepare for four more years of Obama.

Without us, you lose, and every other machine candidate is in no appreciable way any different than Obama.

No One But Paul

ETA - this whole thread is full of win

I like this, and you should copy this and reply to him!!