Kate Steinle Verdict - Not Guilty

[Swordsmyth]

Kate Steinle wasn’t in the wrong place at the wrong time.


http://madworldnews.com/kate-steinle-killer-attorney/?utm_referrer=https://zen.yandex.com

San Fransicko in this day and age is the wrong place and the wrong time.

Anyone normal needs to leave Sodom in a hurry.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Jury got to look at the evidence and decided that it wasn't murder but a tragic accident.

 

[Ender]

Let's ask these guys how allowing millions of people hostile to them, their people, their way of life, ideals, customs and traditions; unfettered immigration, a demographic invasion, to their ancestral lands and homes, worked out for them.

So, should we be giving them back their country?

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=1]Thousands call for San Francisco boycott after Kate Steinle verdict[/h]http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Thousands-call-for-San-Francisco-boycott-after-12399131.php

 

[Swordsmyth]

So, should we be giving them back their country?

Of course you would jump to suggest that we penalize innocent people who live today for the debatable (and I mean that literally) actions of people who are no longer living when you can't deal with the logic point that proves your position to be insane.

 

[Ender]

Of course you would jump to suggest that we penalize innocent people who live today for the debatable (and I mean that literally) actions of people who are no longer living when you can't deal with the logic point that proves your position to be insane.

You mean like the Palestinians were penalized? Seems a logic most Americans support- as long as it's other people's turf.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You mean like the Palestinians were penalized? Seems a logic most Americans support- as long as it's other people's turf.

That's right, set up a strawman to hide the fact that you are losing.

We are not discussing what most Americans supposedly support nor are we discussing Israel/Palestine.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Is it a common practice for people to walk on the pier in San Francisco and shoot a gun?





To be 'illegal' means he broke the law from the get-go. Citizens in San Francisco don't open carry or are they allowed to exercise their second amendment? What makes him better than the citizens of the country he is illegally in?

He didn't bring the gun- he found it there. A group of about six young people were seen at that location shortly before. Based on the angle of the ricochet (it hit about 15 feet from where he was and she was about 80 feet farther away than that so figuring hitting her about four feet off the ground- in her back) , the gun was about two feet off the ground when it went off. If he was deliberately trying to shoot something, it would have been up closer to eye level.

 

[Swordsmyth]

He didn't bring the gun- he found it there. A group of about six young people were seen at that location shortly before.

Sure he did.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Well, it's a good thing he didn't have a beer and then accidentally run her over. Then he would be in real trouble.

They should probably give him a blanket and a McDonald's gift card and let him out back onto the streets of San Francisco.

Probably will, he was up to be deported for the sixth time and a convicted felon. Shouldn't have had the gun at all in his hands.

 

[Ender]

That's right, set up a strawman to hide the fact that you are losing.

We are not discussing what most Americans supposedly support nor are we discussing Israel/Palestine.

I was discussing the indigenous people of America, who don't bear a lot of resemblance to those who you want to keep free by taking more freedom from them. Karma's a bitch.

Talk about a strawman.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

(8) Felon in possession of a firearm, (9) felon firing weapon within city limits, (10) felon violating the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972.

Yes, guns kill people; what now Nancy?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I am aware that your fellow heretics at the ComIntern deny that groups any smaller than all of mankind can exert any form of ownership or control over property tovaritch, as long as our foundational premises are different any further discussion is pointless.

"For the people. And truly I desire their Liberty and Freedom as much as any Body whomsoever. But I must tell you, That their Liberty and Freedom, consists in having of Government; those Laws, by which their Life and their goods may be most their own. It is not for having share in government (Sir) that is nothing pertaining to them. A subject and a sovereign are clean different things, and therefore until they do that, I mean, that you do put the people in that liberty as I say, certainly they will never enjoy themselves. Sirs, It was for this that now I Am come here. If I would have given way to an Arbitrary way, for to have all Laws changed according to the power of the Sword, I needed not to have come here; and therefore, I tell you, (and I pray God it be not laid to your charge) That I Am the Martyr of the People."

-- King Charles I, from the scaffold, January 30 1649

 

[Brian4Liberty]

He didn't bring the gun- he found it there. A group of about six young people were seen at that location shortly before. Based on the angle of the ricochet (it hit about 15 feet from where he was and she was about 80 feet farther away than that so figuring hitting her about four feet off the ground- in her back) , the gun was about two feet off the ground when it went off. If he was deliberately trying to shoot something, it would have been up closer to eye level.

Damn you are good at towing the Party line, comrade.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I was discussing the indigenous people of America, who don't bear a lot of resemblance to those who you want to keep free by taking more freedom from them. Karma's a bitch.

Talk about a strawman.

LOL

The government already controls immigration so even by you definitions I don't want to take more freedom from anyone, and the Native Americans were used by AF to demonstrate what happens when you are overwhelmed by people who don't share your culture or values so they are not a strawman, they are the point.

When you couldn't defeat AF's logic you resorted to an idiotic distraction by calling for modern Americans to be deported to Europe and when I pointed out how unjust that was you tried to distract by bringing up Israel/Palestine which has nothing to do with AF's or my position.

You have exposed the intellectual bankruptcy of your position through your inability to defend it through any honest debate.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Damn you are good at towing the Party line, comrade.

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Do you have evidence to the contrary?

He admitted to firing the gun before he changed his story.

 

[Danke]

LOL

The government already controls immigration so even by you definitions I don't want to take more freedom from anyone, and the Native Americans were used by AF to demonstrate what happens when you are overwhelmed by people who don't share your culture or values so they are not a strawman, they are the point.

When you couldn't defeat AF's logic you resorted to an idiotic distraction by calling for modern Americans to be deported to Europe and when I pointed out how unjust that was you tried to distract by bringing up Israel/Palestine which has nothing to do with AF's or my position.

You have exposed the intellectual bankruptcy of your position through your inability to defend it through any honest debate.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Swordsmyth again.


I’d like to see the current Indians return the land to those that they conquered.

 

[Ender]

LOL

The government already controls immigration so even by you definitions I don't want to take more freedom from anyone, and the Native Americans were used by AF to demonstrate what happens when you are overwhelmed by people who don't share your culture or values so they are not a strawman, they are the point.

When you couldn't defeat AF's logic you resorted to an idiotic distraction by calling for modern Americans to be deported to Europe and when I pointed out how unjust that was you tried to distract by bringing up Israel/Palestine which has nothing to do with AF's or my position.

You have exposed the intellectual bankruptcy of your position through your inability to defend it through any honest debate.

Right- I made one comment- you took offense and started with the name-calling and insults, as you always do.

I am not trying to defeat AF's logic- he is pointing out an obvious fact- however, contrary to your continuous strawman arguments, the problems we face to today are indeed a part of the WoD- it is NOT a separate issue, any more than bombing other countries is separate from blowback.

Get over yourself.

 

[Zippyjuan]

https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/11/30/steinle-trial-verdict/

It was stolen from a U.S. Bureau of Land Management ranger’s car four days before Steinle’s death, but police couldn’t find any evidence tying Garcia Zarate to that burglary or other related car break-ins. Gonzalez has said the thefts indicate the work of a professional auto-burglary ring, not his client, who has no history of theft or any violent crimes. Judge Samuel Feng instructed the jury to assume Garcia Zarate did not steal the gun.

A defense video expert testified that surveillance video from about a quarter-mile away captured Garcia Zarate bending down just before the shooting — though the blurry video excerpt was hard to make out definitively. He also testified about a group of six people who can clearly be seen gathered around the seat Garcia Zarate would occupy 30 minutes later, appearing to set down and pick up a number of objects. The defense implied the group could have been placing the stolen gun.

The defense called two firearms experts, one who testified about the gun’s likely position at or below Garcia Zarate’s knees when the shot was fired, initially flying toward the pier. The other testified that several aspects of the shooting indicated an accidental discharge, including a single shot being fired, the ricochet and no apparent motivation for shooting.

The bullet ricocheted 12 to 15 feet from Garcia Zarate, then ascended at a low angle for another 78 feet before hitting Steinle.