Kate Steinle Verdict - Not Guilty

[Raginfridus]

Plus net immigration from Mexico stopped in 2007. It's now the Asians you need to watch out for.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Do they want government to exist and violate your precious NAP to a much greater degree than you claim minarchists do?

Does that not make them VIOLENT by your definitions?

You can't use the word one way to tar minarchists and then change the definition to defend the invading barbarians.

Yeah, I don't. I don't pre-emptively "tar" people for violations of individual liberty. I let them do that for themselves.

People who VOTE - PERIOD - violate the NAP. So, in my book, you're no better than your boogie-man "illegal" immigrant.

That said you may note that I advocate the family of Ms. Steinle dealing with things as they see fit in this case. Particularly because Ms. Steinle's father witnessed the horror himself.

You may detect a logical consistency in my take on this matter. Give it a try some time.

 

[dannno]

What are the rates?

"The world is full of people who want to destroy freedom..."

"We have to control who comes here..."

It's a sad reality.. but the majority of whites, and the majority of current US citizens want SMALLER government.

The vast majority of immigrants want bigger government.

 

[Zippyjuan]

,,,,

Whoah! Molyneaux found a person from Venezuela? (I see you changed the image you had up)

From Pew Research:

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/v-politics-values-and-religion/?src=prc-number

 

[dannno]

Whoah! Molyneaux found a person from Venezuela?

From Pew Research:

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/v-politics-values-and-religion/?src=prc-number

Conservative or liberal or whatever is meaningless when you have a survey that asks them if they think government should be bigger or smaller.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, I don't. I don't pre-emptively "tar" people for violations of individual liberty. I let them do that for themselves.

People who VOTE - PERIOD - violate the NAP. So, in my book, you're no better than your boogie-man "illegal" immigrant.

That said you may note that I advocate the family of Ms. Steinle dealing with things as they see fit in this case. Particularly because Ms. Steinle's father witnessed the horror himself.

You may detect a logical consistency in my take on this matter. Give it a try some time.

Further, it is offensive to individual liberty to suggest that individual liberty is advanced by restricting the physical movement of non-violent human beings.

You claimed that I wanted to restrict the movement of NON-VIOLENT human beings when in fact by your definition they are VIOLENT.


The world is filled with people who want to reduce your freedom and when we try to stop them and increase your freedom you claim that they are innocent and we are guilty.

Until you have your own planet you can't achieve your fantasy but we can achieve more freedom than you have ever experienced if we use minarchy.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Conservative or liberal or whatever is meaningless when you have a survey that asks them if they think government should be bigger or smaller.

Shows that if Republicans tried courting them rather than attacking them they could get more Hispanics to vote with than against them. They are more conservative that most Republicans think.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/01/news/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201

Ron Paul:

"I believe Hispanics have been used as scapegoats, to say, they're the problem instead of being a symptom maybe of a problem with the welfare state," Paul told the group. "In Nazi Germany they had to have scapegoats to blame and they turned on the Jews.

"Now there's a lot of antagonism and resentment turned just automatically on immigrants," he continued. "You say, no not immigrants, it's just illegal immigrants. I do believe in legal immigration. I want to have a provision to obey those laws. You have to understand this in the context of the economy."

Paul said he's not one of those politicians who believes that "barbed-wire fences and guns on our border will solve any of our problems." That's not, he said, the American way. And he doesn't think that a national identification card is the way to go.

What the country does need, he said, is "a much better immigration service" fed by more resources. Not that he'd "vote for extra money." But he does, he told the crowd, have a plan.

Check out the bottom question in this poll:

 

[Swordsmyth]

Shows that if Republicans tried courting them rather than attacking them they could get more Hispanics to vote with than against them. They are more conservative that most Republicans think.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/01/news/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201

Ron Paul:


Check out the bottom question in this poll:

In the first place I don't believe those statistics, in the second place nobody can be called conservative who would vote for the Demoncrats because the Reps "hurt their feelings", that is the kind of voters who will destroy the country.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

You claimed that I wanted to restrict the movement of NON-VIOLENT human beings when in fact by your definition they are VIOLENT.

"They are violent"?...

The world is filled with people who want to reduce your freedom and when we try to stop them and increase your freedom you claim that they are innocent and we are guilty.

Until you have your own planet you can't achieve your fantasy but we can achieve more freedom than you have ever experienced if we use minarchy.

meh, yer right... 'kay? You can only have freedom by restricting freedom. You're not LITERALLY A Brave New World or anything...

It's not like the truth isn't just staring you right in the face. You're TOTALLY RIGHT! Only people who've been born within the ambiguously defined "USA" have any conception of "freedom". If only we keep people who weren't born within the arbitrarily defined USA out, we'll have freedumb.

You'll have freedumb. You'll get it, good and hard.

Fuckin' moron.

 

[Zippyjuan]

It's a sad reality.. but the majority of whites, and the majority of current US citizens want SMALLER government.

The vast majority of immigrants want bigger government.

Do they? Not when you get into specific items.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...are-more-supportive-of-government-growth-that

Poll: Trump voters more supportive of federal spending than other conservatives


A new nationwide poll released on Tuesday found that Trump voters are more supportive of federal government growth and spending in some areas than traditional conservatives.

According to a new Glover Park Group (GPG) poll conducted by Morning Consult, a majority of Trump voters said that they believe in keeping the power of numerous federal agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the Departments of Education, Agriculture and Health and Human Services.

“This poll shows that the coalition that supported President-elect Trump values and has distinct priorities for the role of government, and isn’t making the same demands as traditional conservatives for across-the-board cuts,” said the senior vice president of research at GPG, Katie Cissel.

Results from a different survey shows similar results:

http://www.people-press.org/2017/04/24/how-republicans-and-democrats-view-federal-spending/

Of Republicans,

35% said we should spend less on healthcare- the rest said same or more.

7% said spend less on terrorism

10% said cut Social Security

7% said spend less on infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc)

37% said cut assistance to needy people in the US

8% said cut military spending

44% said cut government assistance to the unemployed (40% said keep it- 13% said spend more)

15% said cut Medicare (35% said we should spend more on it)

15% said cut spending on Education

For all responders:

 

[tod evans]

Selecting 10 million native-born Americans at random and deporting them would prevent many tragedies.

Let's start with California...

 

[FSP-Rebel]

 

[Zippyjuan]

Non-violent drug crimes which were irrelevant to the charge of murder. But he was an immigrant- he must be guilty of something.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Non-violent drug crimes which were irrelevant to the charge of murder. But he was an immigrant- he must be guilty of something.

Your State made the rules... if It's not going to enforce them, what's the point? Or do you advocate selective enforcement? Now THAT'S a slippery slope, kid.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Non-violent drug crimes which were irrelevant to the charge of murder. But he was an immigrant- he must be guilty of something.

Optics bro. Both now, and unfortunately, rallying cries prior to the next elections.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Optics bro. Both now, and unfortunately, rallying cries prior to the next elections.

Yes, fear sells. However unrealistic and irrational it may be. They need a boogeyman to protect you from. All they ask in return is your vote, your liberty, and a few $billion to pay for it.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Yes, fear sells. However unrealistic and irrational it may be. They need a boogeyman to protect you from. All they ask in return is your vote, your liberty, and a few $billion to pay for it.

Sorry, but when the murderer of a high profile woman (to which her story partially got Trump elected) gets off scott free, it's going to forever piss off at minimum - all of whom who voted for him the first time. Remind them later and it's game over. I don't hail from a sanctuary hotspot so I don't fear illegals personally; however, I feel empathy for those that have had bad experiences. Trump is doing way better than the alternative and the world is finally talking and taking interest in something near and dear to my heart and wallet: bitcoin.

 

[dannno]

Maybe he meant Dobie Gillis.

Holy shit, it's Bob fucking Denver!!

 

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry, but when the murderer of a high profile woman (to which her story partially got Trump elected) gets off scott free, it's going to forever piss off at minimum - all of whom who voted for him the first time. Remind them later and it's game over. I don't hail from a sanctuary hotspot so I don't fear illegals personally; however, I feel empathy for those that have had bad experiences. Trump is doing way better than the alternative and the world is finally talking and taking interest in something near and dear to my heart and wallet: bitcoin.

Jury got to look at the evidence and decided that it wasn't murder but a tragic accident.

 

[donnay]

This verdict is a joke. The jury were serious uninformed and I sure hope no one on that jury, in the future, have a crime like what happened to Kate and her family happen to any of them.

They want a civil war--this is becoming clearer every day...and when there is no justice, there is just-us.