Justin Amash is the anti-Ron Paul

[Swordsmyth]

Exactly. Freedom of choice, if I decide to buy a fine cigar, or a better roof if it is actually needed. Though typically, I do my own roofing.

You and government do not know what is best for me. Even if you think or actually believe that you do.

You are trading cheap stuff for allowing in the people who think government does know best about EVERYTHING.

 

[UWDude]

Exactly. Freedom of choice, if I decide to buy a fine cigar, or a better roof if it is actually needed. Though typically, I do my own roofing.

You and government do not know what is best for me. Even if you think or actually believe that you do.

and all the natives had to give up for cheap cigarettes is their land, culture and freedom.
Yeah, life on the rez is freedom. Take that xenophobic aggressors who were not open and welcoming of the white man... ...natives got casinos, cigarettes, and the right to sell fireworks in celebration of the country that brought them cigarettes, casinos, a fireworks stand and thousands of square miles of wasteland.

And don't forget the condescending sympathies of the white liberals. That counts for a lot these days.

natives got culturally enriched.

 

[PAF]

and all the natives had to give up for cheap cigarettes is their land, culture and freedom.
Yeah, life on the rez is freedom. Take that xenophobic aggressors who were not open and welcoming of the white man... ...natives got casinos, cigarettes, and the right to sell fireworks in celebration of the country that brought them cigarettes, casinos, a fireworks stand and thousands of square miles of wasteland.

And don't forget the condescending sympathies of the white liberals. That counts for a lot these days.

You guys really should come to a decision.

You do not like to talk about reparation. But when it suits you, you bring up the olden days of native Indians.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You guys really should come to a decision.

You do not like to talk about reparation. But when it suits you, you bring up the olden days of native Indians.

We don't need to pay for the sins of others nor do we need to repeat the failures of others.

It's nice to see you expose your hidden agenda though.

 

[jkr]

...sounds g00d

lets dew it!

 

[UWDude]

You guys really should come to a decision.

You do not like to talk about reparation. But when it suits you, you bring up the olden days of native Indians.

i didnt bring up the natives, one of your buddies did.

 

[PAF]

We don't need to pay for the sins of others nor do we need to repeat the failures of others.

It's nice to see you expose your hidden agenda though.

I never condoned nor rejected it. There is no hidden agenda to be had. I merely suggested you guys come to a consensus. But, as long as it fulfills your agenda, standing in principle is not that important.

My favorite part is "endowed by their creator".

If rights come from anywhere else then they aren't really rights.

 

[PAF]

i didnt bring up the natives, one of your buddies did.

Post #142 in our conversation.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I never condoned nor rejected it. There is no hidden agenda to be had. I merely suggested you guys come to a consensus. But, as long as it fulfills your agenda, standing in principle is not that important.

Your hidden agenda is to import enough communists to extract "reparations" from people like me.

There is a consensus:

We don't need to pay for the sins of others nor do we need to repeat the failures of others.

I'm the one standing on principle and defending the rights of Americans, the invaders would be wise to defend their rights in their countries instead of coming here and destroying mine.

 

[jkr]

HEY!


HAS ANYONE SCREAMED THE CENTER MUST HOLD!!

??

 

[UWDude]

Post #142 in our conversation.

post #129 fool

 

[PAF]

post #129 fool

Why call me a fool? I specifically said "in our conversation" - not others.

As I said, whatever suits you guys lol

 

[UWDude]

Why call me a fool? I specifically said "in our conversation" - not others.

As I said, whatever suits you guys lol

because you waste my time with idiocy.

 

[Cleaner44]

Justin Amash has one of the best voting records in D.C....He will not be re-elected.
My feeling is that he is going to run for President & this could cost Trump the election.

Just who is it that you picture voting for him?

I would estimate Amash's chances of costing Trump the election are about 0%.

 

[pcosmar]

People still think that working within the GOP means you're automatically selling out and letting them use you. It's absolutely unfathomable for some folks to think it is possible to use the GOP. I don't see why we couldn't. Hell, we already have. Ron used the GOP. Rand used the GOP. Even Amash used the GOP. The neocons have been using the GOP (and the Democratic party) at least since Rockefeller. We're just politically incompetent. That's our biggest problem.

Its not the "using the GOP".. that is a problem..

It is the Being used by the GOP that is a problem...

ongoing and continuous.

 

[pcosmar]

Just who is it that you picture voting for him?

It was Democrats that Elected Trump..

I spoke to several Democrat Wheat Farmers in oregon at the time..

they voted trump because they could not stand Hillary..
Hillary Got Trump Elected..

 

[Swordsmyth]

It was Democrats that Elected Trump..

I spoke to several Democrat Wheat Farmers in oregon at the time..

they voted trump because they could not stand Hillary..
Hillary Got Trump Elected..

Oregon's electors went to Trump?

 

[kahless]

Just who is it that you picture voting for him?

I would estimate Amash's chances of costing Trump the election are about 0%.

A little higher, something like 1%, Democratic party .75 Neocons and .25% from beltway Republicans (Neocons).

 

[pcosmar]

Oregon's electors went to Trump?

I was located in Oregon at the time of the election.

Democrats Voted for Trump..

a whole lot of Republicans did not.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I was located in Oregon at the time of the election.

Democrats Voted for Trump..

a whole lot of Republicans did not.

A few Democrats maybe, and some Republicans didn't, a whole lot of people who had given up voting voted for Trump.

This time there will be more Republicans voting for him.