Just saw a link minutes ago to a dossier on Donald Trump

[CPUd]

Zippy, CPUd,

You two are off the hook. Got a certifiable troll here with psychosis as an added bonus. Unless of course vonMises is one of you two, in which case, ya got me fooled.

Quite a few off the hook in this thread. Not sure why you would want to just point at 1 or 2 specific members.

 

[devil21]

How about this then, instead of dossiers and here say from both sides, why don't you wait for any real evidence to come out? See the thing is, a lot of this is politically motivated. People in very high political, business, and celebrity positions are going after Trump for a reason that has little to do with his immigration politics. It has to do with his position to go after criminals in the deep state, the nation, and potentially and across the globe such as the pedo ring bust in Norway. Specifically I'm talking about elitist fears from Pizzagate and Pedowood fall out. When it comes to Pizzagate, it at first glance would seem politically motivated, but the body of evidence upon brief digging from Alefantis and Podesta gives people a clearer picture of what they are likely doing.

Right now, wait for evidence, because we haven't seen anything other than an allegation with little clues to back it up.

The whole thing is pretty short on specifics and evidence and any time intel agencies are front and center as part of a narrative, TAKE A STEP BACK! Don't get invested in the story! Waiting for the "facts" is sort of....mmm....like waiting for the fox to feed you, the hen. I just looked at the alleged twitter account of the alleged 4chan originator. Guess what I saw? Supporting comments of Dylan Roof with racist language, tweets about Rand, a tribute to Tim McVeigh. I stopped looking at that point. Stinks. The intel agencies are the shadow government (CFR et al), also are the controllers of the media, the action arm of the bankers and they are not fans of smart libertarians. I smell a set up. ymmv

(our good buddy and old friend John McCain is also a key figure in the narrative as a passer of the "intel")

 

[dannno]

On the otherhand, I do wonder if there exist a libertarian/gold-bug/anarchist/prepper conspiracy to collapse the U.S. as we know it by giving Donald Trump bad advice... Not too many people have made financial positions and other positions to insulate themselves from the utter collapse of the U.S. as they have... This is not even what Trump (if he knew better), or what the Russians want for the U.S. If such a conspiracy ever does manifest itself and Trump gets wind of it before he makes disastrous decisions, I think Trump himself may want to see these people executed, and I myself being silent of whether this punishment fits their crime...

What kind of "bad advice" do you think the libertarians might give to Trump?

 

[vonMises]

Zippy, CPUd,

You two are off the hook. Got a certifiable troll here with psychosis as an added bonus. Unless of course vonMises is one of you two, in which case, ya got me fooled.

I can actually trust Zippy and CPUd's judgement on things...

I've come across libertarians long enough to find that a few are psychopaths that have a complete inability to relate to people or care what really happens to people. Even if Trump is a pervert, lies about things, or whatever, I think the man is still capable of having good intentions toward the average American, but such is not true for some libertarians...

 

[Todd]

It's fun to watch the MSM implode. I just can't believe it's a goober like Trump that pushed it along. lol.

 

[vonMises]

What kind of "bad advice" do you think the libertarians might give to Trump?

Our current debt is not much of a problem as long as other countries maintain confidence in the U.S. as a country. They are willing to support whatever economic/military/political system or order the U.S. has in place as long as they could be defended. The idea of NATO/EU/Euro being American phenomenons. So for example, once the U.S. reneges on the defense of any NATO country, almost all NATO countries will stop deferring and supporting the U.S., thus collapsing the system we have in place almost immediately and subsequently impacting the livelihoods of every American, especially those who rely on the government (it will mean that those on Medicare, for example, die in the millions if we suddenly can't pay for their care). Donald Trump will be given a number of situations as it concerns NATO/EU and if he does something that violates prior NATO/EU commitments (like letting a NATO country get invaded and doing nothing or doing nothing to have prevented it) that means the end of the U.S. as a superpower and the collapse of the U.S. economy.

 

[goldenequity]

How the CIA was PRANKED by 4€han

Did 4Chan Troll The CIA?

 

[vonMises]

So the debt, or whatever other thing, only exist as liabilities in comparison to an ultimate inability to use nukes to defend the order we created.

 

[dannno]

Our current debt is not much of a problem as long as other countries maintain confidence in the U.S. as a country. They are willing to support whatever economic/military/political system or order the U.S. has in place as long as they could be defended. The idea of NATO/EU/Euro being American phenomenons. So for example, once the U.S. reneges on the defense of any NATO country, almost all NATO countries will stop deferring and supporting the U.S., thus collapsing the system we have in place almost immediately and subsequently impacting the livelihoods of every American, especially those who rely on the government (it will mean that those on Medicare, for example, die in the millions if we suddenly can't pay for their care). Donald Trump will be given a number of situations as it concerns NATO/EU and if he does something that violates prior NATO/EU commitments (like letting a NATO country get invaded and doing nothing or doing nothing to have prevented it) that means the end of the U.S. as a superpower and the collapse of the U.S. economy.

Rand Paul just said the other day on the senate floor that the debt is a huge problem. One of the ways we can help solve the debt problem is by not being the policemen of the world.

Do you think Trump should send Rand Paul to a concentration camp to be exterminated?

 

[vonMises]

Rand Paul just said the other day on the senate floor that the debt is a huge problem. One of the ways we can help solve the debt problem is by not being the policemen of the world.

Do you think Trump should send Rand Paul to a concentration camp to be exterminated?

Other countries have horrible GDP to debt ratios, and this will hurt them, but U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world... But if the world lives in a system in which no one has much confidence in the U.S. any longer, it makes a lot of more sense to start getting rid of things.

 

[nikcers]

Other countries have horrible GDP to debt ratios, and this will hurt them, but U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world... But if the world lives in a system in which no one has much confidence in the U.S. any longer, it makes a lot of more sense to start getting rid of things.

This is what matters most since we don't back our money by gold, its how our money trades with other money.

Right now our dollar is trading high I believe which usually means that the bankers and the oil masters want exploding deficits so that our dollar goes down and more people buy it. The difference with gold backed fiat currency is when you print money it inherently loses value with the gold, but if we print money and other countries print money then we just get bubbles and not a direct inflation. This is why the people who argue that there hasn't been a crash yet are wrong because there have been several oil crashes, real estate crashes, industry crashes.

 

[dannno]

U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world...

Oh.

That sounds awesome.

/s

 

[timosman]

Other countries have horrible GDP to debt ratios, and this will hurt them, but U.S. debt could go exponentially higher as long as other things get higher as well...like more military bases around the world... But if the world lives in a system in which no one has much confidence in the U.S. any longer, it makes a lot of more sense to start getting rid of things.

Dude, you need a reboot. Report for maintenance immediately. No more posting until the maintenance is done.

 

[UWDude]

Excuse me, violating the Hatch Act is not a criminal offense worthy of an arrest, but in knowing what he did in light of what he knew, we could still see the spectacle of handcuffs...

LoL

 

[UWDude]

Many Russian trolls are so mean spirited that it's very hard to forgive them for the things they've done, but it's something I've already done when I first began to know about them. Once the average "conspiracy theory believing" RPFer finally gets wind to how much he's been had though, he may actually want the worse for Russian trolls but I don't.

you only have 262 posts in 8 years. How can russian trolls have been mean to you, when you hardly exist?

 

[timosman]

you only have 262 posts in 8 years. How can russian trolls have been mean to you, when you hardly exist?

They should ask for a refund on this old account. They haven't heard of the reputation system?

 

[vonMises]

you only have 262 posts in 8 years. How can russian trolls have been mean to you, when you hardly exist?

I really meant as they exist throughout the internets and how some act online. Some Russian trolls are probably cooped up in some building in St. Peterburg just feet from each other when it's 10 degrees outside, so I could understand why they are that way.

 

[timosman]

I really meant as they exist throughout the internets and how some act online. Some Russian trolls are probably cooped up in some building in St. Peterburg just feet from each other when it's 10 degrees outside, so I could understand why they are that way.

He is goner. Nurse!

 

[vonMises]

Dude, you need a reboot. Report for maintenance immediately. No more posting until the maintenance is done.

For the last 70 some years, the U.S. may have just created something nearing a pyramid scheme but such a scheme can sustain and perpetuate itself indefinitely so long as everyone is on board... Not that I'm trying to justify this scheme but at least I could understand it and why there might exist a need to play whack-a-mole against countries that move against the scheme.

 

[timosman]

For the last 70 some years, the U.S. may have just created something nearing a pyramid scheme but such a scheme can sustain and perpetuate itself indefinitely so long as everyone is on board... Not that I'm trying to justify this scheme but at least I could understand it and why there might exist a need to play whack-a-mole against countries that move against the scheme.

I said maintenance station!