Julian Assange indicted on 17 new charges under Espionage Act

[Swordsmyth]

I came back from a DMT trip and the vision was clear. Hillary Clinton would have imprisoned Julian Assange for two life sentences.

Have you signed the petition yet?

 

[dannno]

I came back from a DMT trip and the vision was clear. Hillary Clinton would have imprisoned Julian Assange for two life sentences.

No, no you didn't..

 

[kcchiefs6465]

No, no you didn't..

I’m super serious.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Have you signed the petition yet?

Have you signed Ross Ulbricht’s?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Have you signed Ross Ulbricht’s?

I've never heard of it.

And that is a distraction anyway, all you want to do is virtue signal.

 

[Swordsmyth]

A new indictment against Julian Assange could further delay what was already expected to be a protracted battle to get the WikiLeaks founder out of a London jail cell and into a U.S. court, opening the door for his legal team to argue that the Espionage Act charges are political and thus not covered by an extradition treaty between the two countries.

Though the United States and the United Kingdom have a longstanding extradition treaty, one exception is for political offenses. The criteria aren't clearly spelled out, but Assange and his lawyers are likely to use the charges filed Thursday to argue that the Justice Department wants to put him on trial for crimes that are inherently political in that they involve the acquisition and publication of government secrets.
"At least on the face of it, it seems like it would complicate the ability of the United States to extradite Assange from the U.K. because we often think of espionage as one type of political offense," said Ashley Deeks, a University of Virginia law professor and national security and international law expert.
She said she regarded an initial indictment made public last month — charging Assange with a single count of conspiring with former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning to hack a Defense Department computer password — as an attempt to "thread the needle and allege an underlying offense that did not seem like a political offense."
Whether the new Espionage Act charges fit the traditional definition of espionage, and by extension a political offense, may be murkier. "The question remains, how will the U.K. decision-makers think about this case," Deeks said.
That view was echoed by Stephen Vladeck, a national security law professor at the University of Texas at Austin.
"I don't think it's an especially meritorious argument that the new charges against Assange would fall within that exception, but it's certainly a more plausible argument than the original indictment," Vladeck said. "Now Assange's lawyers can argue with a straight face to a British court that some of what he's being prosecuted for is politically motivated."
Assange's lawyer, Barry Pollack, hinted at that argument after the new indictment was announced Thursday, saying "the fig leaf that this is merely about alleged computer hacking has been removed."

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-charges-against-assange-may-slow-extradition-uk-195254466--politics.html

Why not wait until he got here to file the new charges?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Why not wait until he got here to file the new charges?

Are you implying that the 17 additional charges were levied to help Assange?

 

[Cap]

Are you implying that the 17 additional charges were levied to help Assange?

He's just using neocon speak Chief.

 

[TheCount]

Are you implying that the 17 additional charges were levied to help Assange?

He's just using neocon speak Chief.

He's desperately trying to reconcile his unconditional support for Trump with the actions that his administration is actually taking. That's why he's repeatedly bringing up the petition.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Are you implying that the 17 additional charges were levied to help Assange?

I'm asking a question about something weird, that is one potential answer.

 

[dannno]

I've never heard of it.

And that is a distraction anyway, all you want to do is virtue signal.

Ross Ulbricht was the one who was running the original Silk Road when it got taken down and he subsequently went to prison.

He was framed.. a federal agent hacked the site and got all of the user info and threatened to release it to the public, which would have ruined thousands of innocent people's lives (because of federal laws on drugs). So he put a hit out on the federal agent, not knowing he was a federal agent and it was an entrapment scheme.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Ross Ulbricht was the one who was running the original Silk Road when it got taken down and he subsequently went to prison.

He was framed.. a federal agent hacked the site and got all of the user info and threatened to release it to the public, which would have ruined thousands of innocent people's lives (because of federal laws on drugs). So he put a hit out on the federal agent, not knowing he was a federal agent and it was an entrapment scheme.

Pardon me if I fail to see the comparison between someone who tried to have somebody killed and Assange.

 

[dannno]

Pardon me if I fail to see the comparison between someone who tried to have somebody killed and Assange.

Ya, that's not what happened.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Ya, that's not what happened.

You said it:

So he put a hit out on the federal agent

 

[dannno]

You said it:

The federal agent works for the federal government. The federal government has laws that would ruin thousands of innocent people's lives if the information came out. The federal agent threatening to ruin these people's lives is the aggressive action. It was an entrapment scheme.

We also don't know if the hit was actually real or invented by the feds so they could take him down. They didn't want to take the chance try and get him for selling drugs on a jury trial and be found innocent and totally embarrassed. So they cooked up something more serious. Never trust the feds.

 

[devil21]

Did ANY of the TDS folks sign the petition?

Why? So everyone can be added to another federal list of war resistors and trouble-makers to be rounded up per Operation Garden Plot? Yep sounds like a great idea.

In case anyone hasn't figure it out yet, if SS is advising you do something, run the other direction.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Why? So everyone can be added to another federal list of war resistors and trouble-makers to be rounded up per Operation Garden Plot? Yep sounds like a great idea.

In case anyone hasn't figure it out yet, if SS is advising you do something, run the other direction.

Anyone who comes to this site is probably already on that list.

It is funny to watch you TDS people squirm around and make excuses for doing nothing to help Assange.
Your'e a bunch of virtue signalling losers.

 

[devil21]

Anyone who comes to this site is probably already on that list.

It is funny to watch you TDS people squirm around and make excuses for doing nothing to help Assange.
Your'e a bunch of virtue signalling losers.

Yeah, because signing some data harvesting petition on a website run by the same people that are charging him will be really, really fruitful. Don't forget to send the strongly worded email as TheTexan suggested too.

I'm taking a break from working. Just got done campaigning for 2 months straight for a Congressional candidate. But no, that's nothing compared to signing a petition. You clearly win because that's not virtue signaling at all.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah, because signing some data harvesting petition on a website run by the same people that are charging him will be really, really fruitful. Don't forget to send the strongly worded email as TheTexan suggested too.

I'm taking a break from working. Just got done campaigning for 2 months straight for a Congressional candidate. But no, that's nothing compared to signing a petition. You clearly win because that's not virtue signaling at all.

I guess you can't really complain about Assange then.
Don't worry, I will continue to.

 

[devil21]

I guess you can't really complain about Assange then.
Don't worry, I will continue to.

I'm sure you will. That's easy and doesn't require any actual effort.