Judge Napolitano: Glenn Beck "A Champion of Human Freedom", "Fighting Big Government"

[alsis8xmy]

Beck is a wolf is sheep's clothing

1. Supported TARP in the runup to congress voting on it, when support for or against counted the most.
2. Torpedoed Medina when his support could have tipped the primary in her favor.
3. Dis'd Ron Paul supporters during the primaries, again when his support could have tipped the balance.

Glen Beck always seems to pull the rug out from under the liberty movement when it counts the most. The proof is in the pudding, once bitten, twice shy.

I think his whole modus operandi is to co-op the tea party and be the saboteur when in clutch moments his support can be most decisive. Glen Beck is a fair weather friend and a wolf is sheep's clothing, beware!

 

[fj45lvr]

he helped get "The Road to Serfdom" on a top-seller list awhile back....but back in 2007 he did call Ron "the mayor of Krazy Town".

I don't trust him even though good things can come from bad people.

 

[AuH20]

I was the standard, state-of-the-art, neoconservative Republican partisan before I started watching Beck. He (yes, HE) brought to my attention the complete joke that is the two-party system. If you want to bring his sincerity into question, fine. But there's one thing you can't deny: He's taken libertarian ideas that were once thought to appeal only to quirky, techy, geeky types, and transformed them into a down-to-earth message that resonates with your average, typical, everyday American. You're not going to attract Grandma and Grandpa to the movement by giving them lectures on the non-aggression axiom. You're just not. Libertarians put so much of their time and efforts on abstract political theory and philosophical reflection that they forget about what truly matters to your, typical middle-class working folks: VALUES. And not just any values (like self-ownership, voluntaryism, etc.), but values that strike at the core of America's heart and soul: thrift, self-reliance, hardwork, charity, personal responsibility, moderation, and love/respect for one's neighbor, which ultimately translates into nonviolence, peace, and individual freedom for all. He takes these values, and explains to the average viewer why libertarianism (along with a dash of cultural conservatism) is compatible with the free, just, and moral society that our Founders envisioned.

That said, I hear a lot of people call Glenn Beck a hawk and a neocon. Not true. He is anything but.





And here's a libertarian explaining why Beck is miles apart from the FOX cabal on foreign policy.

Glenn Beck on why the two-party system is a complete sham (he rips apart Republicans in this one):

YouTube - Common Sense, 5, Part 1, The Cancer of Progressivism.wmv

Beck has compared modern-day Republicans to Nazis and fascists. (!) Even Napolitano and Stossel haven't been brave enough to do that.

Beck has mocked some of his FOX News colleagues for acting like "the gays are coming for us." (His words, not mine.) He thinks flag-burning should be legal. He's against the War on Drugs. And, in an interview with Katie Couric, he expressed the opinion that America would have been worse off under McCain than under Obama.

Glenn Beck is not a partisan hack. At least as far I'm concerned.

Glenn Beck's has expanded our numbers significantly as proven by your's and others' awakening.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Glenn Beck is full of mixed messages about libertarianism. He's right about some things, but he's wrong about so many other. He calls himself one of us, but anyone can call himself anything; it doesn't make it so.

My concern is that people who are fed up with the status quo would hear GB and think his message is what we are all about.

I have no idea why the Judge introduced Beck as a "champion of human freedom"... but we're not sheep. As much as I respect the Judge's views and opinions about most issues, it doesn't matter to me what the Judge says or thinks about Beck; I can make up my own mind.

 

[gls]

It's hyperbole and the Judge knows that. Beck is a mixed bag at best. My guess is Napolitano sees lavishing praise upon him as more of a good career move than anything.

 

[fisharmor]

In my view, the board seems to be split on Glenn Beck along the following line:

-One side believes the world is run through competing interests each vying for more power and influence. As such, they can appreciate that Glenn has done more good than harm promoting many issues of the liberty movement to a mass audience since he got on Fox News.

-The other side believes the world is run through a cohesive, all-powerful union of strong elites who own the media and government, and who strive to enslave us all through perpetual war and a police state. Seeing as Glenn Beck is a mainstream media personality who isn’t a purist, he must be a black-ops CIA operation designed to co-opt the liberty movement. He is the enemy and pure NWO, CFR, tri-lateral commission scum who was probably involved in killing JFK and “pulling down” WTC 7.

Well I'm in the third side:
-One who doesn't believe any group of people is smart enough to have orchestrated NWO without leaving evidence that they control everything, and therefore fits into group 1, but who also believes that the competition of interests must be rewarded according to who is best fulfilling those interests - and who therefore spits venom at Beck for the times when he has unapologetically sabotaged the interests which represent me.

Glenn Beck has taken a large part of our message and made it mainstream. How many huge figureheads go in front of millions of people and rail against progressivism, increasingly advocate a non-interventionist foreign policy and put Ron Paul in front of the pack? He isn't perfect, but political phenomenon rarely are. You don't have to trust him. Just play the game.

In the kingdom of the blind, the man with one eye is king.
If his other eye is ever opened, he will understand why I hate him now.
Plenty of us have two eyes open at this point, and we understand that without opening the other one you'll never have a realistic sense of depth.
Moreover, we really do resent Mr. One-eye trying to be our king. That other eye is how we got to realize that we don't need a king at all - something which he kind of says, but doesn't seem to be able to contextualize.

The other colloquialism that applies here is this: the devil will tell a thousand truths to get in one lie.

 

[fj45lvr]

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The other colloquialism that applies here is this: the devil will tell a thousand truths to get in one lie.

This is the truth that people use media to deceive others.

What position does Beck hold if he believes that Dr. Paul is mayor of Krazy Town on Paul's bills? I think we know that he believes in "preventive war" and intervention.


On the major issues that have perverted the republic (FED, Sound Money, etc.)???

 

[MRoCkEd]

It's not like Beck is convincing people who are already libertarians to support something anti-freedom. He's gradually introducing Fox News watching conservatives to more and more libertarian ideals. It's beyond me why someone who hosts an entire show about slashing the military budget and who has Judge Napolitano as his fill in is considered an enemy because he wasn't as libertarian two or three years ago.

 

[sailingaway]

Snort!

They pay his salary, I guess.

 

[2young2vote]

I like his radio show, but not his TV show.

 

[Justinjj1]

He's just a propagandist shill for Fox News who does more harm than good for the liberty movement. Now outsiders associate libertarianism and the Tea Party with this deranged, Mormon, cry-baby, who still thinks we should attack Iran and protect Israel at all cost. Just watch him interview and fawn over Pastor Hagee.

All he provides is entertainment, and not even very good entertainment. His schtick is so forced and contrived that it is really hard to watch.

 

[georgiaboy]

I had to learn the hard way (sadly) not to follow any talk show hosts major policy/philosophical viewpoints wholesale, especially the so-called conservative ones.

All the right-leaning talk show hosts right now are sounding more libertarian than they were a couple of years ago. In their rhetoric they're following us, not leading us. We must continue to lead them until they are all the way there.

Glenn Beck may be further along the path of following us, but he has a ways to go.

They're all still very very behind us when it comes to candidate support and endorsement, however. This too will hopefully change over time.

Bottom line -- we lead them, we teach them, we use them; they follow, learn, and are used by us.

This goes for our "public servants" as well.

 

[tremendoustie]

I had to learn the hard way (sadly) not to follow any talk show hosts major policy/philosophical viewpoints wholesale, especially the so-called conservative ones.

All the right-leaning talk show hosts right now are sounding more libertarian than they were a couple of years ago. In their rhetoric they're following us, not leading us. We must continue to lead them until they are all the way there.

Glenn Beck may be further along the path of following us, but he has a ways to go.

They're all still very very behind us when it comes to candidate support and endorsement, however. This too will hopefully change over time.

Bottom line -- we lead them, we teach them, we use them; they follow, learn, and are used by us.

This goes for our "public servants" as well.

I agree with you when it comes to average folks -- I don't think we "lead" the media personalities though -- and certainly not politicians.

Basically, both parties, when out of power, go into a pro-liberty tizzy -- then they elect politicians as a result of that tizzy who utterly fail to deliver, growing government instead. Those who put the politicians in power then make excuses for them -- you can hear it from the left now. Obama is "trying", he just doesn't have enough "confidence" to end the wars, Guantanamo, etc.

And it's the other party's turn to go into a pro-liberty tizzy.

Our job is to make sure that people translate their pro-liberty furvor into actual principled pro-liberty stances -- and not just cheer leading for their party. It can be done, and it is being done. Just get people to put down the pom-poms and think logically about the words coming out of their mouths -- and the actual record of the political party they support.

Media personalities spout words like "liberty", etc, in order to whip their party up -- but if we can convert those words into something more than slogans in people's minds, we can transform that partisan tizzy into a true, principled awakening.

 

[cajuncocoa]

I think Beck only sounds more libertarian today than he did 2-3 years ago because he's opposing the Obama domestic/economic agenda.

When it comes to foreign policy and military issues, he sounds every bit as neoconservative as he ever did.

I'm glad he woke up to realize that GWBush is not the fiscal conservative that Beck may have thought he was, but when did he realize this? Two months before W's term was up??

 

[fj45lvr]

Bottom line -- we lead them, we teach them, we use them; they follow, learn, and are used by us.

This goes for our "public servants" as well.

haha

this is kind of funny because it sounds like you are a international banker here!! Or one of the other special interests that are masters to their "servants".

 

[georgiaboy]

haha

this is kind of funny because it sounds like you are a international banker here!! Or one of the other special interests that are masters to their "servants".

Yeah, I know. I'm trying to make a serious point, though. There is always talk on here about the media spin, or the media controlling the message that the masses hear, etc. We tend to victimize ourselves as being the David against the Goliath, but I think we need to 1. remember that David beat Goliath, and 2. reverse our thinking on this and understand the enormous power we and this movement really do have.

Why are these guys shifting their rhetoric in our direction so much? It's because they're listening to us, trying to capture us. Call it ratings or control, but they're trying to tap into this, especially younger, more libertarian demographic. I don't pay much attention to the left-leaning media, but I just wonder if it's trying to tap into this libertarian bent as well. It is the future.

Now, can we make this count legislatively and at the polls? We gotta stick to our guns -- vote for and support candidates based on principle, support and reward those in office who vote the principles we support, and support and reward those in the media who not only support our principles in word, but also support the candidates and voting records we support. That's why GB is one to watch closely, but not give too much credence to at this point. It's why Ron Paul is very careful about the endorsements of people he gives out, and why he'll side with different people depending on the issues/principles/votes they support.

We keep doing this persistently enough for long enough, and just like Dr. Paul, we'll see the rewards.

In this way we lead, we don't follow.

 

[TNforPaul45]

Well well well....I guess we see where the Judge stands when the heat is on.

 

[BlackSand]

We need more friends. Especially friends in high places. Id rather have Glenn Beck rules the airwaves than Rush Limbaugh.