Judge Napolitano flat-out lies about Ted Cruz on Fox News

[TaftFan]

He wasn't talking about legalizing education. And he didn't repudiate a federal role in education. He repudiated one specific federal role and promoted another in its place.

That is BS and you know it. He did not promote a federal role in it's place. School choice is occurring nationally but on the state level and something all Republicans support.

 

[acptulsa]

That is BS and you know it. He did not promote a federal role in it's place. School choice is occurring nationally but on the state level and something all Republicans support.

He didn't talk about school choice in the speech where he announced his candidacy for U.S. President because he was promising to make vouchers a reality on a federal level?

 

[erowe1]

That is BS and you know it. He did not promote a federal role in it's place. School choice is occurring nationally but on the state level and something all Republicans support.

I don't get where you're getting all this. You provided the quote in the OP that settles it. Cruz is definitely promoting a federal school choice program. Bush did the same thing. This is the opposite of getting the federal government out of education. The fact that he's against common core doesn't change that. He's pulling the same trick Romney did with his repeal and replace talk.

How do you make all 50 states have school choice without having a federal role in education? And since when do all Republicans support that?

 

[roho76]

You have a right to educate yourself but you don't have a "right" to an education. You don't have the right to something, only the right to pursue it. And then your right is only as good as your ability to protect that right from those who would rob you of it.

It wouldn't surprise me that Mr. Ted was speaking from a Dept of Ed angle.

 

[jmdrake]

The distortion is that private schools would be more competitive with public schools.

The private schools that took the government money and the strings that will invariably be attached. As someone in the past who has personally paid for other people's kids to be able to go to private school, I am apprehensive about vouchers.

 

[jmdrake]

This is such a minor issue. It seems to me to be a semantic issue at best, and a misunderstanding on Napolitano's part at worst. Cruz is a neocon, who's good on immigration and little else. I'd vote for him over Hillary, but he's still pretty lousy.

I agree with you that this is a minor issue. Frankly it's no worse than the word dances Rand does on foreign policy. (If you take a couple of drinks and read between the lines the right way it doesn't sound so bad.) I wouldn't vote for Cruz or Clinton though.

 

[Christian Liberty]

No, Ted Cruz is a Southern Baptist. Judge Nap is a Catholic.

Oh, he's a Southern Baptist now? That's even worse. Southern Baptists are some of the worst statists in America (and the worst ion theology as well).

That has struck me as generally true WRT Southern Baptists, but you know how it is with congregational churches, there's a lot of variety even in the denomination. There are some Southern Baptists who are solidly Reformed. That said, its definitely not my favorite denomination.

 

[TaftFan]

I don't get where you're getting all this. You provided the quote in the OP that settles it. Cruz is definitely promoting a federal school choice program. Bush did the same thing. This is the opposite of getting the federal government out of education. The fact that he's against common core doesn't change that. He's pulling the same trick Romney did with his repeal and replace talk.

How do you make all 50 states have school choice without having a federal role in education? And since when do all Republicans support that?

I wonder how he will have a federal school choice program when he is also eliminating the department of education?

In the past, Cruz has blasted Bill De Blasio for rejecting school choice. That was on the local level.

 

[TaftFan]

The private schools that took the government money and the strings that will invariably be attached. As someone in the past who has personally paid for other people's kids to be able to go to private school, I am apprehensive about vouchers.

I only support them with no strings attached.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This is such a minor issue. It seems to me to be a semantic issue at best, and a misunderstanding on Napolitano's part at worst. Cruz is a neocon, who's good on immigration and little else. I'd vote for him over Hillary, but he's still pretty lousy.

He spoke about immigration in his speech today. It seems to amount to "secure the border" and then streamline the immigration process so that we can officially import masses of new people to do jobs Americans are too lazy or stupid to do.

 

[jmdrake]

I only support them with no strings attached.

There is no such thing as government money with no strings attached.

 

[Sola_Fide]

That has struck me as generally true WRT Southern Baptists, but you know how it is with congregational churches, there's a lot of variety even in the denomination. There are some Southern Baptists who are solidly Reformed. That said, its definitely not my favorite denomination.

Yes, there are like 5% or some small number that are Reformed Baptists in the SBC, but my church is not part of it. I think it goes against the independent Baptist tradition to be involved in conventions anyway.

 

[jmdrake]

I wonder how he will have a federal school choice program when he is also eliminating the department of education?

In the past, Cruz has blasted Bill De Blasio for rejecting school choice. That was on the local level.

We had federal funding for colleges and universities without a Department of Education.

https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/role.html

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

He spoke about immigration in his speech today. It seems to amount to "secure the border" and then streamline the immigration process so that we can officially import masses of new people to do jobs Americans are too lazy or stupid to do.

I'd have to see what he said specifically, but a "pathway to citizenship" is probably an unfortunate inevitability. I'd rather have a secure border, no net immigration and deportations, but I would take one of the three instead of none of them as it would be under any Democrat.

 

[erowe1]

I wonder how he will have a federal school choice program when he is also eliminating the department of education?

He won't. He'll keep the DOE.

In the past, Cruz has blasted Bill De Blasio for rejecting school choice. That was on the local level.

But now he's talking about the federal level.

 

[erowe1]

I only support them with no strings attached.

So parents can say they're home schooling their kids and then spend the voucher money on drugs and lottery tickets for themselves?

 

[brushfire]

I must have missed something - where did the good Judge lie?

 

[TaftFan]

He won't. He'll keep the DOE.



But now he's talking about the federal level.

Ok, so you are going to believe what you want to believe. Even though he supports ending the department and never suggested a federal voucher program. I'm done.

 

[The Gold Standard]

I must have missed something - where did the good Judge lie?

He didn't. Truth is treason in the empire of lies, and the empire is trying to infiltrate this place just like everywhere else on this planet. I'm proud that I only see one guy fighting on behalf of that pig Cruz.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Yes, there are like 5% or some small number that are Reformed Baptists in the SBC, but my church is not part of it. I think it goes against the independent Baptist tradition to be involved in conventions anyway.

OK, fair enough. I'm leaning more Presbyterian at this point, but kind of still deciding. I've still got time to figure out secondary issues like that.