Judge Nap: Federal action in Portland was wrong

[Matt Collins]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/portland-protests-judge-andrew-napolitano

 

[AngryCanadian]

Judge Nap part of the swamp again.

Does Nap realize that these so called peaceful protesters "rioters" were rioting for 52 days what should have the feds done? just walk and let the rioters burn down everything?

Judge Andrew Napolitano: In Portland, actions of federal agents are unlawful, unconstitutional and harmful

But rioting and burning down federal buildings and police stations is completely constitutional and not harmful?

 

[AngryCanadian]

So according to Judge Nap. The federal agents they should have just let rioters burn the down buildings and courthouse right? is that what the judge is suggesting here? how is that not harmful to a democratic society by having radicals and nutcases burn down federal buildings?

 

[eleganz]

This is very simple. ANTIFA's legal defense is strong, organized by "national lawyers guild", all working pro-bono to get ANTIFA out of trouble and back on the streets asap.

Each of these unlawful detainments would be great to sue the federal government over. If the case is strong, then they'll have no problem winning in court and throwing that back in Trump's face.

But I have a feeling they will lose in court because it was all done according to the law. When the left accuses them of being secret police kidnappings, it sounds horrific. When you hear the truth that many of these are 90 minute detainments, its nothing.

 

[AngryCanadian]

This is very simple. ANTIFA's legal defense is strong, organized by "national lawyers guild", all working pro-bono to get ANTIFA out of trouble and back on the streets asap.

Each of these unlawful detainments would be great to sue the federal government over. If the case is strong, then they'll have no problem winning in court and throwing that back in Trump's face.

But I have a feeling they will lose in court because it was all done according to the law. When the left accuses them of being secret police kidnappings, it sounds horrific. When you hear the truth that many of these are 90 minute detainments, its nothing.

Each of these unlawful detainments would be great to sue the federal government over. If the case is strong, then they'll have no problem winning in court and throwing that back in Trump's face.

These are the same "Peaceful, and democratic protesters" which had being trying to take down federal buildings yeah good luck with that one. Just what is their goal? why are they trying to take down federal buildings? these riots look very militarily organized in style.

They stopped attacking police stations and now they are trying to take down federal buildings why? what does the federal courthouse has to do with Floyd's murder?

 

[Ender]

Judge Nap part of the swamp again.

Does Nap realize that these so called peaceful protesters "rioters" were rioting for 52 days what should have the feds done? just walk and let the rioters burn down everything?




But rioting and burning down federal buildings and police stations is completely constitutional and not harmful?

Did you even read some of the stuff these fed agents are doing to innocent people? Nap is saying that it is up to the locals and he is correct.

According to the account of one victim, he was walking peacefully in the downtown area, observing the chaos, when five masked men in fatigues exited an unmarked SUV, grabbed him and pulled him into the car. They tied his hands with plastic behind his back. They pulled his cap over his face. They kept him for two hours and then released him. They filed no charges against him.
They had no basis for this kidnapping.

It was a kidnapping, not an arrest. An arrest is a lawful restraint by a legitimate government authority pursuant to a warrant issued by a judge specifically naming the person to be arrested, or pursuant to probable cause of crime personally observed by the arresting officers. Neither of these was the case in Portland.

And some victims were even less fortunate than those kidnapped. They were assaulted with pepper spray and hit with nonlethal exploding bullets that stun, hurt and disorient. The bullets can harm the eyes, heart and liver. I saw a video of a young man riding a bicycle away from the chaos. Yet, he was attacked by five of these feds.

An Annapolis graduate and Navy veteran asked a small group of the feds by what constitutional authority they were present in Portland. They responded by pepper-spraying his face and beating his hand with a baton, shattering numerous bones in his hand.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Did you even read some of the stuff these fed agents are doing to innocent people? Nap is saying that it is up to the locals and he is correct.

Nap is saying that it is up to the locals

Again the same local law enforcers which had being told by local official polticans to stand down?

Did you even read some of the stuff these fed agents are doing to innocent people?

Are you actually saying that rioters are innocent people? you lost me there. What do you think it would had happened to these rioters when they attacked a federal building in the first place? if they just avoided and left alone nothing would had happen to these "Innocent People" who which were throwing bricks and home made weapons at officers.

I would agree that normal protesters are innocent people what happened last night was anything but innocent.

 

[nikcers]

Its organized crime with extra steps.

 

[TheCount]

Are you actually saying that rioters are innocent people? you lost me there. What do you think it would had happened to these rioters when they attacked a federal building in the first place? if they just avoided and left alone nothing would had happen to these "Innocent People" who which were throwing bricks and home made weapons at officers.

If the people being arrested have committed crimes, why aren't they being charged?


Why are they being detained and then released the next day?

 

[AngryCanadian]

If the people being arrested have committed crimes, why aren't they being charged?


Why are they being detained and then released the next day?

Why are they being detained and then released the next day?

Clearly some elitists are either paying these police precincts to let these detained be released no matter if they committed a crime. If this was a lockdown protestor they would not be released so quickly.

 

[kahless]

So according to Judge Nap. The federal agents they should have just let rioters burn the down buildings and courthouse right? is that what the judge is suggesting here? how is that not harmful to a democratic society by having radicals and nutcases burn down federal buildings?

If the buildings are not federal then it is a local matter. If you live there and do not like the inaction then the people should contact and/or protest the local officials. Vote them out in the next election cycle. If it is a federal building then I agree that Judge Swamp is wrong.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Did you even read some of the stuff these fed agents are doing to innocent people? Nap is saying that it is up to the locals and he is correct.

I've heard AntiFa lies and I've seen and heard the truth, they were properly arrested for crimes and most of the riot control was appropriate.
Any exceptions don't mean that all federal action was wrong.

 

[Swordsmyth]

If the buildings are not federal then it is a local matter. If you live there and do not like the inaction then the people should contact and/or protest the local officials. Vote them out in the next election cycle. If it is a federal building then I agree that Judge Swamp is wrong.

It is also a federal crime to travel between states to incite riots etc.

There are multiple ways the feds can be correctly involved.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Judge Swamp has been supporting the communist coup all along.

 

[ChiefJustice]

I've heard AntiFa lies and I've seen and heard the truth, they were properly arrested for crimes and most of the riot control was appropriate.
Any exceptions don't mean that all federal action was wrong.

Haha. Supporting violations of civil liberties, people being swept off the street by feds. It's pathetic that some of you are so supportive of this police state. Civil liberties seem to only matter based on political affiliations to you. Pathetic. You are a fraud and adamant supporter of big government.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Did you even read some of the stuff these fed agents are doing to innocent people? Nap is saying that it is up to the locals and he is correct.

According to the account of one victim, he was walking peacefully in the downtown area, observing the chaos, when five masked men in fatigues exited an unmarked SUV, grabbed him and pulled him into the car. They tied his hands with plastic behind his back. They pulled his cap over his face. They kept him for two hours and then released him. They filed no charges against him.

And that story is basically from MSNBC/CNN you know that right? you are actually willing to believe the accounts of one a single one Antifa/BLM who claims.


This is not new from Antifa.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Haha. Supporting violations of civil liberties, people being swept off the street by feds. It's pathetic that some of you are so supportive of this police state. Civil liberties seem to only matter based on political affiliations to you. Pathetic. You are a fraud and adamant supporter of big government.

And here there are some who are willing to support Antifa dispute the massive chaos that they had being causing for 52+days and almost starting to destroy a federal building if not federal buildings.

Serious question for you. Do Civil liberties include starting riots and burning down federal buildings? answer truthfully.

The last time i checked Civil liberties only calls for peaceful assembly what happened in Portland last 50+ days now is nothing that resembles peaceful assembly.

 

[Ender]

Again the same local law enforcers which had being told by local official polticans to stand down?


Are you actually saying that rioters are innocent people? you lost me there. What do you think it would had happened to these rioters when they attacked a federal building in the first place? if they just avoided and left alone nothing would had happen to these "Innocent People" who which were throwing bricks and home made weapons at officers.

I would agree that normal protesters are innocent people what happened last night was anything but innocent.

The people I was talking about were NOT the violent protesters- READING is your friend.

And by locals- I mean the people. The 2nd Amendment was originally written about local militias protecting their communities.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

If the local cops did their job, none of this would be happening. They're standing down because they're told to. It's this new approach to rioting that's emerged since 2014. It's not acceptable for local officials to just allow people to ransack a city. Federalism is a provincial anachronism at this point in history anyway, barring some restoration.

 

[kahless]

If the local cops did their job, none of this would be happening. They're standing down because they're told to. It's this new approach to rioting that's emerged since 2014. It's not acceptable for local officials to just allow people to ransack a city. Federalism is a provincial anachronism at this point in history anyway, barring some restoration.

They are told to stand down since they expect Trump to trample on state rights and civil liberties using the federal police force. The quote about what they are doing is playing right into their hands. They want a situation far worse in hopes the feds will kill some protestors and are praying it will be black protestors. That is the narrative they want to set before the election to ensure a Biden win.

I expect Trump will play right into their hands. But only after the Neocons and Never Trumper Republicans stomp their feet about Trump not doing enough. Of course the ignorant masses that lap up that propaganda and blindly support Trump no matter what he does will as usual be screaming for blood due to a complete inability to think for themselves