Judge Boasberg Allows Tren de Aragua Migrants to Appeal ‘Alien Enemies’ Deportations

[nikcers]

Yeah, that worked out great with Biden as President. The enemies of the state list was long indeed.

Well that's why we have the power to check the president it's called elections and the people we send to Washington are supposed to do that.

If we make the president into a ceremonial role then we would just need to give that job to someone else to do and then there could be no accountability if they do a bad job we can't fire them and hire someone else like we did to Biden.

 

[Madison320]

Interesting ruling.

My read of it says that if I hold up a liquor store, and I deny that I did it, then I cannott be detained until my trial.

From what I heard on Dave Smith's podcast the problem isn't the deportation it's that they were sent directly to prison for life in the worst jail in the world. It seems like they should be deported back to where they came from and then let the country of origin decide what to do.

 

[unknown]

Immigration lawyers printing cash right now.

 

[nikcers]

From what I heard on Dave Smith's podcast the problem isn't the deportation it's that they were sent directly to prison for life in the worst jail in the world. It seems like they should be deported back to where they came from and then let the country of origin decide what to do.

You don't send designated foreign enemies of our state to the place that sent them here.

If you do that- there is absolutely nothing stopping them from sending them here again.

 

[unknown]

Hasn't the Administration already taken the position that they can expel anyone for any reason, so long as they are not a citizen?

 

[unknown]

Trump has previously gone after naturalized citizens as well via denaturalization, for which I think they are actually allowing due process.

Not sure if they have gone after native born Americans but I'd assume that we're not far behind.

 

[unknown]

Glenn reviews the arguments during the appeals hearing.

Trump's appointee ruling against the Administration.

He then goes on to provide some examples of when a Federal District Court Judge ruled against Bidens actions and the Right celebrated the decisions:

Twitter censorship.

Student loan forgiveness.

$15 minimum wage for federal contracts.

Oil/gas leasing pause.

 

[unknown]

We know it's due to their participation in anti Izrael rallies, but whats the official basis for deporting the student visa holders?

Considering the fact that they are here legally.

 

[nobody's_hero]

All it would take is another judge to reverse this decision. The SCOTUS has ruled that any one judge has such power.

I think it would be hilarious if two judges got in a fight and just started canceling each other out with their rulings.

The SCOTUS would have to step in and say, "Okay, okay, we F'd up. Gotta revisit that case."

I wonder if there's ever been a case in American history where the same panel of SCOTUS justices had to reverse one of their own decisions.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In the same interview he appears to be saying that executive impoundment is unconstitutional and also says he can't get enough Republicans to vote for a rescission package. It's official, Rand Paul has failed. 14+ years in office and he can't convince his own party to cut spending. His election has made practically zero impact.

Impoundment is Constitutional, the founders used it and nobody ever claimed it wasn't allowed until Congress passed the UNCONSTITUTIONAL Impoundment Control Act and Nixon stupidly signed it.

Rand is enabling the deepstate.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I agree with Rand Paul in that the Bill of Rights apply to everyone in the US and under the jurisdiction of the US.

That being said, it is not a contradiction with deportations. If someone is here illegally, they can be deported. They can not continue to break the law. That would be a contradiction!

Trump has muddied the waters by claiming the Alien and Enemies Act. While it might apply to Tren de Aragua, it opens a whole slew of legal options for the leftists to attack.

Just deport them as deportations have always been done. And if leftist Judges want to claim there is some change to how it has always been done, ignore them until it goes to the Supreme Court. The courts can't magically create laws out of thin air.

Invaders are not subject to our jurisdiction, they are outlaws who have refused to be subject to our laws.
They are also not being deprived of life liberty or property by being released into their home countries.
The only due process they get is when it is determined they are here illegally.

We cannot play by ridiculous made up rules where they can flood in by millions but we must throw them out one at a time after lengthy court hearings.

 

[Swordsmyth]

From what I heard on Dave Smith's podcast the problem isn't the deportation it's that they were sent directly to prison for life in the worst jail in the world. It seems like they should be deported back to where they came from and then let the country of origin decide what to do.

That's where it being a hostile invasion and the insurrection act come in, POWs don't have BoR rights.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Trump has previously gone after naturalized citizens as well via denaturalization, for which I think they are actually allowing due process.

Not sure if they have gone after native born Americans but I'd assume that we're not far behind.

They get due process, and we are not next, that's leftist fantasy designed to stop the removal of their foreign invaders.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We know it's due to their participation in anti Izrael rallies, but whats the official basis for deporting the student visa holders?

Considering the fact that they are here legally.

That's been answered elsewhere, they committed crimes, plotted to destroy our country, and consorted with terrorists etc.

 

[spudea]

From what I heard on Dave Smith's podcast the problem isn't the deportation it's that they were sent directly to prison for life in the worst jail in the world. It seems like they should be deported back to where they came from and then let the country of origin decide what to do.

Venezuela refuses to take back their own citizens because they know these people are violent gang members and they were released by Venezuela in the first place to infiltrate our country. What do you do then? Do nothing?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Invaders are not subject to our jurisdiction, they are outlaws who have refused to be subject to our laws.
They are also not being deprived of life liberty or property by being released into their home countries.
The only due process they get is when it is determined they are here illegally.

We cannot play by ridiculous made up rules where they can flood in by millions but we must throw them out one at a time after lengthy court hearings.

They are in our jurisdiction when they are on our soil. If they commit a murder in the US, they don't just get escorted back to their home nation.

And once again, there is no contradiction between the Bill of Rights and them being deported. That is exactly the legal theory that the left is pushing, and it is wrong.

You can't break into a Taylor Swift concert, sit down in the front row, and then stay there until a court date is scheduled. Likewise, if you are here illegally, you can be deported immediately. You can not continue engaging in a crime. To say otherwise concedes and caters to the illegal immigration lobby, and to the left's illogical judicial insanity.

 

[Madison320]

They are in our jurisdiction when they are on our soil. If they commit a murder in the US, they don't just get escorted back to their home nation.

And once again, there is no contradiction between the Bill of Rights and them being deported. That is exactly the legal theory that the left is pushing, and it is wrong.

You can't break into a Taylor Swift concert, sit down in the front row, and then stay there until a court date is scheduled. Likewise, if you are here illegally, you can be deported immediately. You can not continue engaging in a crime. To say otherwise concedes and caters to the illegal immigration lobby, and to the left's illogical judicial insanity.

I agree with this but from what I've heard they were not just deported back to their home country, they were sent to a prison in el salvadore.

So instead of merely kicking the guy out of the taylor swift concert, you send them to sing sing prison for life. I just don't know if my facts are correct about them being sent to el salvadore.

The more I think about it the more I think the root cause of this problem is birthright citizenship. If we end that most of the problems will disappear.

 

[Swordsmyth]

They are in our jurisdiction when they are on our soil. If they commit a murder in the US, they don't just get escorted back to their home nation.

And once again, there is no contradiction between the Bill of Rights and them being deported. That is exactly the legal theory that the left is pushing, and it is wrong.

You can't break into a Taylor Swift concert, sit down in the front row, and then stay there until a court date is scheduled. Likewise, if you are here illegally, you can be deported immediately. You can not continue engaging in a crime. To say otherwise concedes and caters to the illegal immigration lobby, and to the left's illogical judicial insanity.

In our jurisdiction, but not subject to it.
We may forcibly subject them to it, but if we are not charging them for illegal entry or some other crime they commit while here and are merely ejecting them.

And ejecting them is not depriving them of life, liberty, or property, so even if you interpret them as subject to our jurisdiction it does not trigger the Due Process requirement.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I agree with this but from what I've heard they were not just deported back to their home country, they were sent to a prison in el salvadore.

So instead of merely kicking the guy out of the taylor swift concert, you send them to sing sing prison for life. I just don't know if my facts are correct about them being sent to el salvadore.

The more I think about it the more I think the root cause of this problem is birthright citizenship. If we end that most of the problems will disappear.

As hostile foreign invaders (whether barbarians or in the service of Venezuela that sent them here and gives a hero's welcome to those we send back there) we could summarily execute them as illegal combatants and terrorists.
Sending them to a foreign prison is going easy on them.

 

[unknown]

That's been answered elsewhere, they committed crimes, plotted to destroy our country, and consorted with terrorists etc.

The initial guy getting the most publicity, wasn't charged with any crimes prior to the deportation process.

Everything else you said sounds like a mindless establishment mantra: WMDs/fighting for your freedoms.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/24/us/mahmoud-khalil-green-card-trump-administration/index.html

"Khalil failed to state on his green card application he had previously worked for the Syria office of the British Embassy in Beirut and was a member of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, or UNRWA, the government says, the latter a focus of intense criticism from American and Israeli politicians who accuse it of antisemitism."