Johnson's running mate, Weld, is CFR scum

If you want any hope of a libertarian revolution in this country, we need to get people from the left on board. Gary Johnson has the hooks to get them into libertarianism. At first they will be into it for the legal weed, social liberalism and reigning in our foreign policy. Gary Johnson is strong on all of those. Eventually many will start turning on the economic issues, which Johnson is also pretty strong on, and over time the hope is they will get into the Constitution and understand gun rights and such. It's a process.

I'm not a fan of this Weld guy at all, but Gary Johnson is a good way to get a larger segment of our society thinking about liberty. He's also the best chance of taking votes from Hillary Clinton, hopefully convincing Sanders supporters to jump on board. Everybody should be pretty happy with Gary Johnson as the libertarian candidate whether you like Trump, the Constitution or whatever your flavor of liberty happens to be, I think he is the best thing to happen to this election cycle so far.
 
Origanalist said:
Our republic is a nation governed by a constitution rooted in Biblical law
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Whoa, that's enough to make me never vote for them. I don't want to be governed by people who think the laws are based on a book of fairy tales.
 
farreri said:
Whoa, that's enough to make me never vote for them. I don't want to be governed by people who think the laws are based on a book of fairy tales.
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Whoa, what did you think the founding fathers were? A bunch of atheists?
 
Origanalist said:
Whoa, what did you think the founding fathers were? A bunch of atheists?
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Was the Constitution based on biblical law?

I know Mormons believe the Constitution was divinely inspired and that God wants men to have freedom, but I think ferrari is referring to people who want the state to uphold the laws set forth in the Bible.
 
At this point, I don't even care anymore. VP's are basically useless anyway. Biden is a perfect example.

Johnson represents the best opportunity for a smaller government. Not in a lessor of three evils way, more so in a guns & weed kinda way.
 
farreri said:
Whoa, that's enough to make me never vote for them. I don't want to be governed by people who think the laws are based on a book of fairy tales.
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Is that what you think Christians are?

You sound like an Ayn Randian.
 
Root said:
At this point, I don't even care anymore. VP's are basically useless anyway. Biden is a perfect example.

Johnson represents the best opportunity for a smaller government. Not in a lessor of three evils way, more so in a guns & weed kinda way.
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wut

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VP choice is usually seen as something that can only hurt you. GJ was wrong to expect any gain from it in the first place. I think Weld just hurts him.

Gun control is the biggest problem with Weld imo. I doubt he could ever veto a gun control bill in the wake of a mass shooting.

"Mr. Weld, a Republican who will run for re-election next year, called for a statewide ban on assault weapons — a proposal he opposed during his 1990 campaign — as well as a waiting period for buying handguns and a prohibition on handgun ownership by anyone under 21. His proposed legislation would also limit the number of handguns an individual could buy and would impose tough penalties for illegal gun sales and gun-related crimes.

“The purpose of this common sense legislation is to remove deadly guns from our streets and to take weapons out of the hands of many teens who themselves are becoming deadly killers,” the Governor said."

For me, it's a deal breaker. How sad is it to have to cast protest votes now against the 3rd party candidate?

But the pick is just inexplicable in general...and raises questions about Gary Johnson... does he really believe in any principles behind his views? Is he at all interested in advancing those ideas, exposing them to more people?

At best, he chose Weld in spite of all the authoritarian gun grabbing views, which shows his willingness to put Americans at risk for his own political gain. At worst, he chose Weld because of those views, which also shows he's willing to harm the Libertarian movement itself with philosophical contamination brought by Weld supporters. Sorry but if anyone finds things like environmental regulations, gun control, and affirmative action politically appealing then they know jack about Liberty. And since realistically we're not winning either way, it's the message that really matter. Not saying pick Tom Woods as veep, but at least not some pseudo conservative statist.
 
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OK all you conspiracy theorists, what's Weld going to be able to do as VP when President Gary wants to end all foreign intervention?
 
farreri said:
OK all you conspiracy theorists, what's Weld going to be able to do as VP when President Gary wants to end all foreign intervention?
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LMAO -- and you think us Christians are the blithering lunatics... :D

Johnson will not 'end all foreign invasions' he will simply shift focus to bombing countries that still practice unregulated cake-baking.
 
doesn't matter; even if Johnson should carry a few states and throw election to Congress; the House picks the president from the top 3, but the senate picks the VP from the top 2
 
afwjam said:
Council Of Foreign Relations full of elected officials? You don't see the problem?
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The Council on Foreign Relations has a very diverse list of members with differing opinions on world events. Some think that because many are or were world leaders that they have a single policy and control the world. But they don't have a "single view". They have had articles for and against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. They have even had a nice piece on Ron Paul in their publication "Foreign Affairs" in 2012 which is published quarterly. (looking for a link).
 
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farreri said:
what's Weld going to be able to do as VP when President Gary wants to end all foreign intervention?
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Kill him.

They were on MSNBC splitscreen the other day and as Gary gave a good spiel about noninterventionism, Weld grimaced and looked like he wanted to cut Gary's throat.
 
Does an analysis of the CFR show us that the many "diverse" members often speak about individual liberty and non aggression?

Everything under the Sun is "diverse".

But wasn't that post putting the best construction on everything? Wasn't that post just giving benefit of the doubt?...:rolleyes:
No, it's ignoring the friggin' basics, while keeping scrutiny at arms length.

Ignoring the basics, and using buzz words and positive human emotions to do it, that's a pretty slick trick.

Oldest trick in the book -literally. The sick trick that keeps on keeping on.
 
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