John F. Kennedy was a Conspiracy Theorist

You can talk Russians all you want, but they were not the ones that killed John Kennedy nor his brother. I believe both were killed by the same group of people and it's possible that they got JFK Jr. as well. The Kennedy's were no saints by any means, but there was a reason both John and Bobby got taken out and Russia had nothing to do with it. I think JFK's comment on splintering the CIA into a thousand pieces would be a good place to start. Also Lyndon Johnson's mistriss had some very interesting things to say as well that connected Johnson to the plot to kill Kennedy also.

I was referring to the speech in the OP.
It has been badly misrepresented and it makes people in our movement look retarded if they use it to show some kind of proof that JFK was talking about the money masters of the USA.
He may have opposed them, he may have been killed by them- but this speech has nothing to do with them.
 
he was talking about our enemy, Russia.
The Russians had a conspiracy to overthrow capitalism in america. How old are you? You don't remember the cold war? The original war on terror?

He mentioned Karl Marx in the beginning and his influence reached way beyond just Russia. It's true that Russia was enslaved by this "ruthless Conspiracy" and was being used to wage war against freedom, but Russia was just one tentacle of this "ruthless Conspiracy" that uses "infiltration" and "subversion" to spread.
 
He mentioned Karl Marx in the beginning and his influence reached way beyond just Russia. It's true that Russia was enslaved by this "ruthless Conspiracy" and was being used to wage war against freedom, but Russia was just one tentacle of this "ruthless Conspiracy" that uses "infiltration" and "subversion" to spread.

That is true, there are many groups doing these things. What i'm talking about is the content of this speech and what it meant.
The whole purpose of him bringing up the ruthless conspirators was to basically scare the media into giving him more secrecy.
He was using the bogey-man of that day, russia, to scare the media into giving him secrecy. That is all that speech was designed for- that is it.
 
I was referring to the speech in the OP.
It has been badly misrepresented and it makes people in our movement look retarded if they use it to show some kind of proof that JFK was talking about the money masters of the USA.
He may have opposed them, he may have been killed by them- but this speech has nothing to do with them.

My fault, I misunderstood the context of what you were trying to say. You are spot on with the speach though. I thought you were implying that it was the Russians that killed Kennedy.
 
He was using the bogey-man of that day, russia, to scare the media into giving him secrecy. That is all that speech was designed for- that is it.

According to G. Edward Griffin, the tentacles of this "ruthless Conspiracy" reached into the United States as well. Considering the fact that the Federal Reserve, a central bank, is the 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto -- we've been infiltrated way before 1913. Note, however, this Collectivist/Communist mindset existed way before Karl Marx, he just publicized it.

This bogeyman is real.

G. Edward Griffin Interviews ex-KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov

Bezmenov explained in this interview the methods used by the Soviet KGB to secretly subvert the democratic system of the United States

YouTube - G. Edward Griffin Interview Of Yuri Bezmenov
 
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According to G. Edward Griffin, the tentacles of this "ruthless Conspiracy" reached into the United States as well. Considering the fact that the Federal Reserve, a central bank, is the 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto -- we've been infiltrated way before 1913. Note, however, this Collectivist/Communist mindset existed way before Karl Marx, he just publicized it.

This bogeyman is real.

G. Edward Griffin Interviews ex-KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov

Bezmenov explained in this interview the methods used by the Soviet KGB to secretly subvert the democratic system of the United States

YouTube - G. Edward Griffin Interview Of Yuri Bezmenov

yeah, i've seen all that before.
the communist were trying to come here- but it was always an idealogical war of control over our minds.
 
Well my view is that those around him wanted him to invade Cuba. After he made the speech posted above, he was killed by the CIA (who was controlling the CIA at the time I have no clue) .... But when LBJ, VP, was sworn in; he immediately reversed a number of JFK's decisions; I'm talking about seconds...

I believe it was Gerald Ford that sat on the Warren Commission. On his deathbed, Gerald Ford confessed that the murder of JFK was an inside CIA job. That was his deathbead confession.

Anyone here that on CNN or FAUX or MSNBC?
 
yeah, i've seen all that before.
the communist were trying to come here- but it was always an idealogical war of control over our minds.

Considering the fact we have all 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto nearly implemented, they were quite successful.


The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are...

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc...).

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read "controlled or subsidized" rather than "owned"… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
Americans are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, but are actually "government force-tax-funded schools " Even private schools are government regulated.


SOURCE:
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
 
Actually JFK and Bobby K... were the only members of the Kennedy family worth a grain of salt... The rest were and are maggots...
 
According to G. Edward Griffin, the tentacles of this "ruthless Conspiracy" reached into the United States as well. Considering the fact that the Federal Reserve, a central bank, is the 5th plank of the Communist Manifesto -- we've been infiltrated way before 1913. Note, however, this Collectivist/Communist mindset existed way before Karl Marx, he just publicized it.

This bogeyman is real.

G. Edward Griffin Interviews ex-KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov

Bezmenov explained in this interview the methods used by the Soviet KGB to secretly subvert the democratic system of the United States

YouTube - G. Edward Griffin Interview Of Yuri Bezmenov
Surely you are not saying that "credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital," is the same as credit in the hands of a private corporation, owned by the bankers with capital created out of thin air, are you??

"Credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital," was central to Hamilton's program and Henry Clay's "American Plan," before Marx was even born.
 
John F. Kennedy was a Conspiracy Theorist

We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy. That relies on primarily on covet means for expanding its fear of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion. On subversion instead of elections. On intimidation instead of free choice, on guerillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted, vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly nit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.

FrankRep, you're obsessed. Give it a rest for a while. Your mailman isnt plotting to kill you.
 
FrankRep, you're doing a great job, exposing the ongoing conspiratorial nature of government.

Keep up the good work!

John F. Kennedy was a Conspiracy Theorist

We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy. That relies on primarily on covet means for expanding its fear of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion. On subversion instead of elections. On intimidation instead of free choice, on guerillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted, vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly nit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.
 
As I've said before in other threads, assassination is not the preferred method in dealing with dissent. The Kennedy's (JFK, RFK) had always been at odds with LBJ. They put him on the ticket as VP solely as a political compromise. For the most part JFK did what he was told. He was kept in check by his numerous extra-marital affairs. Where Kennedy really pissed off TPTB (in which LBJ was one of the main guys) was his stance on Vietnam. JFK had signed orders for the withdrawal of troops.

On October 11, [1963] the White House issued National Security Action Memorandum 263, which speaks of "the implementation of plans to withdraw" troops from Vietnam.

LBJ, of course, escalated Vietnam into a full blown quagmire.

For those that say it was a "Communist" operation that killed JFK, in a way you are correct. But don't stop there. As soon as you put a label on something you are excluding important facets of reality. "Communism" is a tool used by the elites in the attempt to bring in a one world government. Did Russia infiltrate the US government and kill our President? no. Did Communists? yes. Are the Communists Americans? yes. Are these "Communists" really "communists", no. Are they still with us today? Yes.

The elite go by many names and many labels. They quietly fight against freedom while publicly and falsely fighting with each other. They are the masters of the great show and like "God" cannot be restricted to a simple label. They will use whatever means are necessary to accomplish their goals. This "immorality", as we call it on our side of the curtain, gives them great power over the masses, but it is also their Achilles heal.

One question that isn't asked enough is "Why kill the President so violently in front of the whole world?"
 
John F. Kennedy was a Conspiracy Theorist

We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy. That relies on primarily on covet means for expanding its fear of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion. On subversion instead of elections. On intimidation instead of free choice, on guerillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted, vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly nit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.

YouTube - Kennedy Speech Conspiracy Secret Societies
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Yes. The worlds conspiracy theory must constantly be interrogated, or not used at all. The words are used as pure dismissal. The rightist coup d'etat on 11-22-63 can no longer be denied. See especially the amazing JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died And Why It Matters.
 
What did killing him achieve? Who gained the most from it? Who stood to lose the most from not killing him? I follow the money trail on these things.
 
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