Joe Biden Accused of Unwanted Kiss from Behind During Campaign Event While VP

[timosman]

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-kisses-women-lucy-flores-1380784

3/29/19

Joe Biden has been accused by Lucy Flores, a former Member of the Nevada Assembly, of unwanted kissing and touching while he served as Barack Obama’s vice president in 2014.

Flores, who penned an essay for the Cut about her experience with the possible 2020 presidential candidate, said that Biden volunteered to campaign on her behalf during her ultimately unsuccessful run for lieutenant governor in Nevada. After speaking at an event, Flores said Biden grabbed her shoulders, smelled her hair and then kissed her on the back of the head.

“My brain couldn’t process what was happening. I was embarrassed,” wrote Flores. “I couldn’t move and I couldn’t say anything. I wanted nothing more than to get Biden away from me.”

Kissing someone on the back of the head hardly qualifies as sexual assault, but it does highlight a habit of Biden's—getting very close to female friends and supporters. "I’m not suggesting that Biden broke any laws," wrote Flores. "But the transgressions that society deems minor (or doesn’t even see as transgressions) often feel considerable to the person on the receiving end."

A video of Biden putting his hands on Stephanie Carter, wife of former Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, and whispering intimately into her ear gained some criticism by the media in 2015. Awkward photos of Biden kissing Senator Chris Coons’ young daughter, kissing supporters on the lips and even bringing a motorcyclist onto his lap also exist.

These Richard Dawson on Family Feud-type kisses make women uncomfortable, even if Biden doesn’t mean for them to, said Flores.

“Biden was the second-most powerful man in the country and, arguably, one of the most powerful men in the world,” wrote Flores. “He was there to promote me as the right person for the lieutenant governor job. Instead, he made me feel uneasy, gross, and confused. The vice-president of the United States of America had just touched me in an intimate way reserved for close friends, family, or romantic partners—and I felt powerless to do anything about it.”

Biden’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The essay comes as tensions rise over Biden's handling of the 1991 Senate hearing about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's alleged sexual harrasment of Anita Hill. Biden, who chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time, used a speech at the Biden Courage Awards this week to apologize for his actions. Biden called Hill a “brave lawyer” who was forced to pay a “terrible price” after being grilled by “a bunch of white guys.” Biden said that “she faced a committee that didn’t fully understand what the hell this was all about. To this day, I regret I couldn’t give her the kind of hearing she deserved. I wish I could have done something.”

Hill still says that Biden has never personally apologized to her.

Biden is currently polling at the top of the Democratic field, despite his lack of a declaration. He is expected to come to a decision on whether to run by mid-April.

 

[Anti Globalist]

I can't imagine why any woman would want to be touched by creepy Joe.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This is only the first. There will be more, plenty moore.

 

[spudea]

Just too soon, hasn't even declared yet, it would be much more fun if this all came out just before the democratic primaries

 

[Danke]

"creepy Joe"?

Doesn't sound creepy to me. I may vote for him.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Maybe if Joe Biden had an alpha male personality he wouldn't have this problem.

 

[Stratovarious]

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-kisses-women-lucy-flores-1380784

Joe Bidden is creepy beyond creepy, but I would call that a gratuitous, mercy kiss, not sure who
would want to kiss that one from any angle .

 

[olehounddog]

5 yrs. to say anything. Shoulda been .1 seconds.

 

[Dr.3D]

That guy does seem pretty odd.

 

[Working Poor]

He needs to work on his personal boundaries...

 

[PursuePeace]

How often has Biden been creepy?
Very often. Why? Because these idiots keep ALLOWING him to do it.

So many spineless parents looking the other way as he kisses and touches and grabs their children.

And sorry women, but you need to stand up for yourselves. Don't start crying about something 5 years after the fact.


All these women talking about how empowered they are, yet they can't handle someone invading their personal space and touching them inappropriately? Come on. I'm not buying it. If you're "empowered" then act like it. Pull away,move their hand, yell at the person, whatever you have to do. Put them in their place. Don't just stand there and take it. You're an adult, take responsibility for your own safety and don't let people disrespect you and take advantage of you.

And IF you are letting your own personal gain from the situation force you into submission, then you have ZERO right to complain years later.

 

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/jesseleefuller/status/1111828396034543616

 

[Danke]

 

[Grandmastersexsay]

Just too soon, hasn't even declared yet, it would be much more fun if this all came out just before the democratic primaries

No, it would be more fun if it came out after he won the nomination. Why do you think it's coming out now, from fellow Democrats? They know if he wins the nomination, trump will destroy him on the campaign trail with this.

 

[tfurrh]

No, it would be more fun if it came out after he won the nomination. Why do you think it's coming out now, from fellow Democrats? They know if he wins the nomination, trump will destroy him on the campaign trail with this.

Then we'll be so much better off because then we'll heave Trump and not Biden yay!

 

[timosman]

Biden Accuser Describes Why Democrats Often Pressure Victims 'To Keep Our Mouths Shut'

 

[timosman]

Joe Biden’s affectionate, physical style with women comes under scrutiny

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...1a81d0-5275-11e9-8d28-f5149e5a2fda_story.html

March 31

In some of the photos, Joe Biden is behind the women, his hands on their shoulders, as he whispers in their ears. He embraces Hillary Clinton, his hands around her torso. He kisses a young girl’s head, his fingers framing her face, as she looks blankly toward the camera.

This affectionate and sometimes intimate physical style is one of the former vice president’s trademarks, a defining feature of the warm and upbeat persona he has built during more than four decades in the national spotlight. But the appropriateness of Biden’s physical behavior toward women is now being questioned, after a female Democratic politician penned a viral Internet piece describing an alleged 2014 encounter that left her offended and uncomfortable.

As Biden prepares to announce whether he will run for president in 2020, the episode has raised questions about whether the older, self-described “fingertip politician” is well-suited for the White House in the wake of the #MeToo movement and at a moment of rapidly shifting social norms. Biden, an outspoken critic of domestic violence who led efforts to pass the Violence Against Women Act in 1994, has also faced sharp criticism from women over his handling of the Anita Hill hearings in 1991 and his subsequent comments about the topic.

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[Brian4Liberty]

How often has Biden been creepy?
Very often. Why? Because these idiots keep ALLOWING him to do it.

So many spineless parents looking the other way as he kisses and touches and grabs their children.

And sorry women, but you need to stand up for yourselves. Don't start crying about something 5 years after the fact.


All these women talking about how empowered they are, yet they can't handle someone invading their personal space and touching them inappropriately? Come on. I'm not buying it. If you're "empowered" then act like it. Pull away,move their hand, yell at the person, whatever you have to do. Put them in their place. Don't just stand there and take it. You're an adult, take responsibility for your own safety and don't let people disrespect you and take advantage of you.

And IF you are letting your own personal gain from the situation force you into submission, then you have ZERO right to complain years later.

Agree. And let’s not forget how things change over time. What was once acceptable, becomes unacceptable, and vice-versa. Then there is the after the fact outrage caused by others giving their (new?) opinions.

1990 - Woman A: “Oh, that nice Joe Biden, he gave me a hug and a kiss on the head. He is wonderful”.

2018 - Woman B: “He abused his position of power and authority to take advantage of you!”
2018 - Woman C: “You were sexually assaulted! He exploited you!”
2018 - Woman D: “That was like, literally, rape! He should be in jail. You need to tell the media about this!”
2018 - Woman E: “You can not let him get away with that sexual assault. You have a responsibility to speak out. You are part of the problem if you refuse to do something. You do support the #MeToo movement don’t you?”

2019 - Woman A: “Biden is running for POTUS? He can’t do that, he sexually assaulted me, I was traumatized, and I will never get over this. His face on TV is triggering me! Call the media.”

Disclaimer: Joe has always been creepy. What has changed is the reaction to his creepiness.

 

[Superfluous Man]

No, it would be more fun if it came out after he won the nomination. Why do you think it's coming out now, from fellow Democrats? They know if he wins the nomination, trump will destroy him on the campaign trail with this.

What is Trump's argument going to be? That Biden is a wimp for only kissing the back of her head and not grabbing her genitals like a real man?

 

[donnay]

The man is definitely creepy.