Jerusalem Post confirms Israel knew USS Liberty was American

[thoughtomator]

That's possible. The only thing that is impossible, and the point of the post, is that Israel did not know the ship was American.

I'm not arguing whether they knew it was American. I am assuming that they did know. That still does not give us a "why", at least not without understanding LBJ's full role in the matter.

 

[jmdrake]

Then what's the explanation for LBJ first ordering the ship to the location where it was attacked, then later being complicit in a cover-up?

If it was a straight-up false flag, and LBJ wasn't in on it, and he hadn't been caught playing both sides of the fence, why would the US silently accept the attack? The US actions have no good explanation, which tells me that there was more going on than we yet know.

Ever heard of the Gulf of Tonkin? Hint, LBJ was president.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

I'm not arguing whether they knew it was American. I am assuming that they did know. That still does not give us a "why", at least not without understanding LBJ's full role in the matter.

The US government's official position, the conclusion of the US Navy Court of Inquiry, is that it was a tragic accident and instance of misidentification. There can be no asking "why" until this travesty of a conclusion is corrected. In any criminal investigation first you settle "who" and "how," before you ask "why." I want to kinow as much as you do.

MoveOn of all people has a petition to reinvestigate and start getting at the truth: http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/investigate-the-attack

 

[Danke]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?462302-The-day-Israel-attacked-America

 

[enhanced_deficit]

What possible reasoning do people offer for why Israel would attack our ship intentionally?

edit: james offered one as I was typing that.

Could be similar reasons:

Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind the attacks

Nov. 11, 2009
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.
The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...s-later-1.4385

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Read the Kissinger Cables from WIKILEAKS... directly from the government-Embassy's mouth(cables/Telex). No further debate is needed... it was a crafted false flag by the Israeli government. The bought and paid for American government covered it up, as well as US Zionist media, blah blah blah... it's all there. Go read the cables...

PS: While your there, read all the ones about Libya. You'll get true .gov information of how the government ia a premeditated global abrutal arm oppression, thievery, and murderous force. Cables reveal it all, which is to serve the; Marxists, oligarchs, Fascists, and Money Masters, that control the bought and paid for sociopathic political whores.

 

[Ronin Truth]

https://www.google.com/webhp?tab=ww&ei=PhBhVPa5E6eBiwLlpYCACg&ved=0CAoQ1S4#q=USS+Liberty

 

[twomp]

Anti-semites are rampant on this forum

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Anti-semites are rampant on this forum

So are standard Zionist disinformation tactics, criticism of Israel = anti-semitism.

Are these guys anti-semites too? They don't think Israel should exist as it is today, and is against the Torah. The Torah proclaims that Israel would not come into being until the coming of the Messiah (the Second Coming for Christians.) They call themselves Jews Against Zionism.

http://www.truetorahjews.org/

Rabbi Weiss of Jews Against Zionism

The true Torah solution, the key to peace is the immediate return of Palestine to the Palestinians in its entirety including the Temple Mount and Jerusalem.

This would, of course, include a full right of return for all Palestinian refuges. That is what elementary justice demands. This is the path of the Torah and of common sense.

The Jewish people have many mitzvos (commandments) to pursue in their exile. Fighting and killing Palestinian children are not among them.- Rabbi Yosreal Weiss

 

[dannno]

Anti-semites are rampant on this forum

And apparently at the Jerusalem Post

That was not your brightest comment.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

But in bigger scheme of things, they is still our closest ally and the only non-racist democracy in mideast with a negligible burden on US taxpayers.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

E-D, I literally gurgled with laughter!..

Btw, I sense the Glenn Beck Randers who hurl the 'anti-semite' label are ignorant of the fact that most 'IZraelis' are not truly 'semitic'...'the palestinians,' etc. are 'semitic'...therefore, only a GD fool wouldn't/couldn't conclude that the Izraelis for whom the Republicrats suck are THE WORST 'ANTI-SEMITES' ON THE PLANET!!!

(turn off the Rush Limbaugh and get a library card!!)

 

[ClydeCoulter]

And apparently at the Jerusalem Post

That was not your brightest comment.

It seems that "/sarc" is considered to be "passe" or "understood" by many posters.

 

[FloralScent]

But in bigger scheme of things, they is still our closest ally and the only non-racist democracy in mideast with a negligible burden on US taxpayers.

You're kidding right? Sometimes I can't tell.

 

[Inkblots]

...LOL this is how people sound when they are losing the argument.

Having read through it all, you pretty plainly lost the argument. thoughtomator's explanation makes much more sense and accounts for the facts better than yours. Sorry, fella.

 

[pcosmar]

But in bigger scheme of things, they is still our closest ally and the only non-racist democracy in mideast with a negligible burden on US taxpayers.

Wow..
I would have liked to see the facial contortions that went with that post.

 

[James_Madison_Lives]

Having read through it all, you pretty plainly lost the argument. thoughtomator's explanation makes much more sense and accounts for the facts better than yours. Sorry, fella.

Guess you either haven't been following too closely or you don't read too good, fella. I already won the argument. Thoughtomor agrees the Israelis knew the ship was American. His question is "why," on which I can agree to disagree. That the attack was deliberate, calcualted, and pre-planned is all the OP sets out to prove. But thanks for playing

 

[H. E. Panqui]

Dr3D writes: "Yeah, they eat babies too."


Top Radio Rander, Alex Jones, knows who the baby eaters are! But then again Alex may be projecting...looks like the loudmouth Republican apparatchik has swallowed a few babies himself!!...(he enjoys them with fava beans and tangy tangerine!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnIMdXVXimY

 

[dillo]

What possible reasoning do people offer for why Israel would attack our ship intentionally?

edit: james offered one as I was typing that.

The same reason that the Israelis wanted to bomb our embassies, to blame the muslims

 

[Dr.3D]

Dr3D writes: "Yeah, they eat babies too."


Top Radio Rander, Alex Jones, knows who the baby eaters are! But then again Alex may be projecting...looks like the loudmouth Republican apparatchik has swallowed a few babies himself!!...(he enjoys them with fava beans and tangy tangerine!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnIMdXVXimY

Oh please, every good Jew knows babies aren't kosher.