Jake Tapper nails Trump on "Mexican" judge comments in utterly mad interview

[MelissaWV]

As for dirty jobs, I have worked in tourist areas where NO ONE would apply for jobs in the service industry except Latinos. Some owners could not find workers or fill positions until they specifically approached the Latino community. So- no, most indulged Americans will not take the service jobs- especially teens.

Some of you gave him crap for this post.

Few Americans take immigrants' jobs in Alabama

The agriculture industry suffered the most immediate impact. Farmers said they will have to downsize or let crops die on the vine. As the season's harvest winds down, many are worried about next year.

In south Georgia, Connie Horner has heard just about every reason unemployed Americans don't want to work on her blueberry farm. It's hot, the hours are long, the pay isn't enough and it's just plain hard.

"You can't find legal workers," Horner said. "Basically they last a day or two, literally."

On U.S. Farms, Fewer Hands for the Harvest
Producers raise wages, enhance benefits, but a worker shortage grows with tighter border

Early this year, Ms. Bond, human resources manager for the 35-acre farm in Arlington, Wash., offered 20% raises to the most productive workers from the last harvest. She posted help-wanted ads on Craigslist, beside highways and on the bathroom-stall door at a church. She also successfully lobbied local high schools to broadcast her call for workers during morning announcements.

Despite Ms. Bond’s efforts, Biringer again faced a worker shortage and typically drew fewer than 60 of the roughly 100 employees it needed on harvest days. “There was definitely hair-pulling going on,” she said.

Ms. Bond’s travails reflect a broader struggle by U.S. fruit, vegetable and dairy farms to secure farmhands as illegal immigration from Mexico declines and a strengthened U.S. economy makes it easier for people to find less backbreaking work, often in areas with cheaper housing costs.

North Carolina needed 6,500 farm workers. Only 7 Americans stuck it out.

Every year from 1998 to 2012, at least 130,000 North Carolinians were unemployed. Of those, the number who asked to be referred to NCGA was never above 268 (and that number was only reached in 2011, when 489,095 North Carolinians were unemployed). The share of unemployed asking for referrals never breached 0.09 percent.

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last. In 2011, 245 people were hired out of 268 referred, but only 163 (66.5 percent) of the hired applicants actually showed up to the first day of work. Worse, only seven lasted to the end of the growing season

Dairy farmers, in dire need of workers, feel helpless as immigration reform sours

McMahon and other dairy farmers in central and upstate New York are in a quandary. On one hand, farms have thrived because of several factors, including the popularity of yogurt in recent years and drought in other milk-producing countries. At the same time, they are battling to find the reliable, year-round labor that 24/7 milking operations require.

Locals won't do the dirty, manual jobs, farmers say, and immigration laws limit farmers to importing only seasonal agricultural employees. That does not help dairy farmers, who need year-round workers.

These Aroostook County employers who can’t fill jobs are asking how to recruit immigrants

So in just a few moments I found it to be an issue in Maine, New York, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Washington... but you are adamant that native workers will flock to these jobs except in two states

 

[susano]

First you react to someone telling you they have no intention of voting for your favorite potential dictator by accusing her of being an angry, irrational, victim-card-playing multiculturalist who blathers about microaggressions. And then you completely ignore a link which demonstrates that Trump's own advisors are admitting he's going to pick a neocon as a running mate and let him run the country.

The problem with someone who's so firmly convinced the con man who convinced him he will pander to all his xenophobic desires and kick everyone out of the country who doesn't look like him is he's so irrational it's impossible to dialog with him.

Good luck with Trump pandering to your irrational hate. You're going to need it.

My, oh, my, another leftie.

I don't care who she (?) votes for or if she chooses not to vote. I asked who or what she supports and got no answer so she's only about hating on Trump and spewing anger about being a victim.

I've listed why I voted for Trump. I think he's an extremely flawed candidate but I chose to vote for him for the reasons I laid out (check the thread). It's a big gamble, I'll admit. At least I'm able to lay out my reasons while some here are afraid to say who or what it is they support. It's just a stream of Trump hate and directed toward to anyone who dared vote for him.

Now you join in with this s#*t about my "favorite dictator" which tells me you're as angry and as irrational all of the SJWs. If that makes you feel better - even though there's no truth to it - then rant away.

I don't know who Trump will end up with as a VP. Trump is NOT a neocon nor is he an internationalist. Hillary Clinton is. Either Trump or Clinton will be the next president and I'm not voting for the neocon warmonger.

This is where you tell us all where you're coming from:

xenophobic desires and kick everyone out of the country who doesn't look like him


That's cultural Marxist bulls#*t and I'm not into it.

Like all cultural Marxists, you accuse me of hate when I've expressed zero hate toward anyone. You accuse me then you'd better fu#@ing produce the evidence, snowflake The only hate here has been toward Trump and anyone who voted for him. You hate Trump or hate me or hate anyone who voted for Trump, I don't care but please be adult enough to own it and stop projecting onto others what isn't there.

 

[CPUd]

^^ notice how this one also uses the same line of attack. "leftie", "SJW", "cultural Marxist"

 

[dannno]

No, his excuses have evolved but still boil down to the judge is hispanic,

Wrong... They boil down to his claim that the Judge has treated him unfairly. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant - but he believes that is tangentially related to the fact that he is hispanic. That's not racist, and you continue putting words in his mouth.

 

[acptulsa]

My, oh, my, another leftie.

I don't care who she (?) votes for or if she chooses not to vote.

You don't care who anyone votes for, but your idea of discourse is to call people 'leftie'. And what was it, exactly, in that post which led you to believe I'm a socialist? Or left handed?

I asked who or what she supports and got no answer so she's only about hating on Trump and spewing anger about being a victim.

I've listed why I voted for Trump. I think he's an extremely flawed candidate but I chose to vote for him for the reasons I laid out (check the thread). It's a big gamble, I'll admit. At least I'm able to lay out my reasons while some here are afraid to say who or what it is they support. It's just a stream of Trump hate and directed toward to anyone who dared vote for him.

Now you join in with this s#*t about my "favorite dictator" which tells me you're as angry and as irrational all of the SJWs. If that makes you feel better - even though there's no truth to it - then rant away.

I'm not the one who is angry. I just called you out on the fact that you're using perjoratives in lieu of discourse. And promoting a dictator.

I don't know who Trump will end up with as a VP. Trump is NOT a neocon nor is he an internationalist. Hillary Clinton is. Either Trump or Clinton will be the next president and I'm not voting for the neocon warmonger.

You said you are voting for Trump, who talks about building up the nation's already massive military, conquering the middle east and taking the oil, and eliminating ISIS. A person whose closest advisors say will leave governance to his vice president, and who has not said who that vice president is. And your only excuse for this is Clinton is a neocon, as though there can only ever be one neocon.

This is where you tell us all where you're coming from:

xenophobic desires and kick everyone out of the country who doesn't look like him


That's cultural Marxist bulls#*t and I'm not into it.

If you're not into it, why have you advocated for it? And since when is kicking everyone who isn't as white as you Marxist bullshit?

Like all cultural Marxists...

Are you accusing me of being one? Care to prove it?

...you accuse me of hate when I've expressed zero hate toward anyone. You accuse me then you'd better fu#@ing produce the evidence, snowflake

Look, susano. You have a long and colorful posting history. I don't care to play the game of posting that evidence and having you deny that it is evidence, or trying to spin it as something it clearly isn't. Anyone who doesn't already know can look at your posting history and see all the proof they could ever need.

The only hate here has been toward Trump and anyone who voted for him. You hate Trump or hate me or hate anyone who voted for Trump, I don't care but please be adult enough to own it and stop projecting onto others what isn't there.

Hate has nothing to do with the post you quoted. In that post, I merely pointed out that you are ignoring evidence in deciding what Trump is and what he is not, and setting the record straight. Now, since you don't have a factual leg to stand on, I can understand that you would project all your weaknesses onto me, then accuse me of doing what you are doing. But that doesn't mean I have to let it stand.

Wrong... They boil down to his claim that the Judge has treated him unfairly. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant - but he believes that is tangentially related to the fact that he is hispanic. That's not racist, and you continue putting words in his mouth.

He believes that what happened is tangentially related to the fact that he's Hispanic, but that has nothing to do with race? Is that because you inserted the word 'tangentially' in the sentence? Or is Hispanic no longer a racial term?

 

[nikcers]

You don't care who anyone votes for, but your idea of discourse is to call people 'leftie'. And what was it, exactly, in that post which led you to believe I'm a socialist? Or left handed?

Obviously if you advocate against coke then you are a Pepsi drinker right?

Some people drink Pepsi, some people drink coke. The wacky morning DJ says democracy's a joke.

 

[Ender]

I've know lots of non hispanic Americans who have done all of those jobs (and some still doing them). Nursing homes, hotels, cleaning houses and offices, working in restaurants and every job you reserve for "latinos". In places like California and Florida where the immigrant population is huge and they work for dirt cheap, yeah, only the immigrants do these jobs. Not every place in the US is like that, though.

I agree about indulged Americans and I see it as a serious problem that has led to moral decay. When work is beneath any group of people, what does that say about their REAL opinion of those they expect to to that work? I've always thought the way immigrant workers are treated and paid is a travesty. Illegal immigration only adds to this downward spiral.

Remove institutionalized welfare and a whole class of able bodied Americans will be looking for work.

In the area I was in the jobs were standard rates and the Latinos got paid the same as any white boy. They were all legal immigrants, as far as I know, because the tourist venues had to background check every employee.

I agree about your statement on welfare. Take away all entitlements and leave charity to the locals. Solves a lot of problems, including the border.

 

[Ender]

Some of you gave him crap for this post.

So in just a few moments I found it to be an issue in Maine, New York, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Washington... but you are adamant that native workers will flock to these jobs except in two states

THANK YOU.

 

[moostraks]

Wrong... They boil down to his claim that the Judge has treated him unfairly. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant - but he believes that is tangentially related to the fact that he is hispanic. That's not racist, and you continue putting words in his mouth.

No, I'm not putting words in his mouth.

Trump has variously referred to Curiel as Spanish, Mexican and Hispanic and has called the judge "a hater of Donald Trump." He told The Wall Street Journal that Curiel has "an absolute conflict of interest" because of his heritage as well as "an inherent conflict of interest" because Trump wants to build the border wall.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/03/trump-persists-in-attacks-on-us-judge-with/

Judges cannot be dismissed based upon the imaginations of a party in a lawsuit. He needs proof, which he does not have, or he would have already filed against the judge, and he is inventing a fanatsy to galvanize his supporters. My guess was to try to poison the jury and possibly to try to appeal if he loses.

 

[susano]

You managed to prove all of that from one membership card? No, you managed to infer all that from one membership card.

Erm, no, I just know what La Raza is and you either you don't or are deliberately ignoring it for the sake of your Trump-is-a-racist spiel. Interestingly enough, it was a Mexican friend who explained to me about La Raza, back in the 80s, when I moved to Los Angeles. I kept seeing their bumper stickers all over and didn't know what it meant and my friend told me it was a pro Mexican-anti white organization. I was confused because she was Mexican and she looked white to me. I was that naive but she was good enough to explain to me what I was unaware of.

And now you're accusing forum members and putting words in their mouths on equally nonexistent "evidence". Which is fine on a forum where the sole activity is pushing each others' buttons. But not here.

You need to learn how to present an honest argument yourself before you go demanding that of others.

Oh, no, snowflake, you said it. Now own your cultural Marxist bulls#*t.

The problem with someone who's so firmly convinced the con man who convinced him he will pander to all his xenophobic desires and kick everyone out of the country who doesn't look like him is he's so irrational it's impossible to dialog with him.

Good luck with Trump pandering to your irrational hate. You're going to need it.
The issue is, is the ruling just? You don't any more have access to the evidence than I do, so you don't know. The difference is, the evidence is important to some of us. But it's of no use to someone who is only here to accuse people of playing victim cards, and not caring about sovereignty, and whatever else they can be falsely accused of to piss them off.


You throw the words "hate" and "xenophobic" around in defense of illegal immigration or toward anyone who wants the problem brought under control. You DO have a problem with US sovereignty. Your problem is not having the courage of your convictions and your inability to defend them.

 

[moostraks]

My, oh, my, another leftie.

I don't care who she (?) votes for or if she chooses not to vote. I asked who or what she supports and got no answer so she's only about hating on Trump and spewing anger about being a victim.

I've listed why I voted for Trump. I think he's an extremely flawed candidate but I chose to vote for him for the reasons I laid out (check the thread). It's a big gamble, I'll admit. At least I'm able to lay out my reasons while some here are afraid to say who or what it is they support. It's just a stream of Trump hate and directed toward to anyone who dared vote for him.

Now you join in with this s#*t about my "favorite dictator" which tells me you're as angry and as irrational all of the SJWs. If that makes you feel better - even though there's no truth to it - then rant away.

I don't know who Trump will end up with as a VP. Trump is NOT a neocon nor is he an internationalist. Hillary Clinton is. Either Trump or Clinton will be the next president and I'm not voting for the neocon warmonger.

This is where you tell us all where you're coming from:

xenophobic desires and kick everyone out of the country who doesn't look like him


That's cultural Marxist bulls#*t and I'm not into it.

Like all cultural Marxists, you accuse me of hate when I've expressed zero hate toward anyone. You accuse me then you'd better fu#@ing produce the evidence, snowflake The only hate here has been toward Trump and anyone who voted for him. You hate Trump or hate me or hate anyone who voted for Trump, I don't care but please be adult enough to own it and stop projecting onto others what isn't there.

Hey acptulsa, sorry about this trash being sent your way on my account.

Somewhere in between the baby talk and cursing I missed where I was asked about my voting.

 

[dannno]

He believes that what happened is tangentially related to the fact that he's Hispanic, but that has nothing to do with race? Is that because you inserted the word 'tangentially' in the sentence? Or is Hispanic no longer a racial term?

JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING HAS TO DO WITH RACE DOESN'T MAKE IT RACIST.

Good fucking God. Do I really have to explain this here??

 

[dannno]

No, I'm not putting words in his mouth.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jun/03/trump-persists-in-attacks-on-us-judge-with/

Judges cannot be dismissed based upon the imaginations of a party in a lawsuit. He needs proof, which he does not have, or he would have already filed against the judge, and he is inventing a fanatsy to galvanize his supporters. My guess was to try to poison the jury and possibly to try to appeal if he loses.

You just posted an article that was 80% editorializing and you don't think you are putting words in his mouth??

 

[acptulsa]

Erm, no, I just know what La Raza is...

...but you don't know what that judge's role in it is, why he joined, or how much of what they go on about he agrees with. So, you don't know what effect, if any, it had on his decision in the Trump U case.

Hell, you don't even know which of the two La Razas he belongs to. All you know is you're going to act like he's a member of the IRA whether he's a member of Shinn Fein or not.

Oh, no, snowflake, you said it. Now own your cultural Marxist bulls#*t.

I'm not stooping to name-calling, so I don't see any point in continuing to address you.

 

[fcreature]

Mexican is a not a race. It's a nationality. Mexico is a foreign power.

No shit. You should go tell your supreme leader that.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

When native unemployed people are referred to NCGA, they're almost without exception hired; between 1998 and 2011, 97 percent of referred applicants were hired. But they don't tend to last. In 2011, 245 people were hired out of 268 referred, but only 163 (66.5 percent) of the hired applicants actually showed up to the first day of work.

Interesting. Referred by whom? Could be the unemployment office or welfare office. Looks like about a third didn't show up for work. Can't say it was hard work that prevented them from working. Some did show but soon quit. Would make sense for people trying to maintain government benefits.

The bottom line is that no one is going to do low paying, long hours, hard work when there are easy alternatives.

 

[dannno]

 

[moostraks]

You just posted an article that was 80% editorializing and you don't think you are putting words in his mouth??

Which words have I supposedly put in his mouth?

 

[Bryan]

Let's please keep things civil everyone. Focus on the issues, that's what people care about and what is important. Trying to find some hidden defect or flaw in other members, calling names, etc, doesn't provide any value of interest and just lowers the site discourse. Good arguments can be made without making matters personal.

Thanks.

 

[susano]

Some of you gave him crap for this post.











So in just a few moments I found it to be an issue in Maine, New York, North Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Washington... but you are adamant that native workers will flock to these jobs except in two states

Who is adamant about not allowing farm workers into the US? I thought we were talking about illegal immigration. Every farm worker who wants to come and there is work for should come legally and be given a green card (and they should be paid more!). That's the same position that Cesar Chavez had though, no doubt, many would say "that's racist!".