Gary Johnson It's time to throw our full weight behind Gary Johnson.

[cheapseats]

I appreciate the efforts you've made, but considering that, I'm surprised you've chosen defeat so early. Nobody is the nominee today, or tomorrow, or the day after that. Nobody becomes the nominee until the national convention in Tampa. However unlikely you think it is that Ron Paul can get the nomination, you cannot say today we have a nominee. We do not.

You must be MAD AS A HORNET at Rand Paul, eh? Feeling as you do, you must SURELY be one of the people who believes that Rand Paul is TURNCOAT to the Liberty Moovement and BACK-STABBER of his own beloved father.

 

[Michael Landon]

I didn't read this thread but I agree with the thread title and plan on supporting Johnson.

- ML

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'm not doing your research for you but I'll point you in the proper direction. Rand came out to endorse Romney after his father conceded he would not win the nomination.

Did you not get his email? You'd think for someone that so strongly supported Ron would actually read the announcements Ron and the campaign make....

Well I must've missed something here because you're speaking of events I'm completely unaware of. Can you please post for me a video of Ron Paul stating that he is completely out, not interested in the nomination any more, he is not running any more, and preferably that he is endorsing someone? (An endorsement of some other candidate is the best indicator Ron Paul truly considers himself out of the race.)

Please provide some irrefutable evidence to back up your conclusions here. If you cannot, then I suggest you hold your misinterpretations and opinions and stop stating them as if they were fact. Thank you.

I appreciate the efforts you've made, but considering that, I'm surprised you've chosen defeat so early. Nobody is the nominee today, or tomorrow, or the day after that. Nobody becomes the nominee until the national convention in Tampa. However unlikely you think it is that Ron Paul can get the nomination, you cannot say today we have a nominee. We do not.

When Ron Paul endorses and/or supports Gary Johnson, then I will. Until that happens, asking me or anyone here to do so is premature and a waste of time.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

I argue that "deaths" by Abortion PALE next to body counts from WAR 4 PROFIT. Actual living breathing bodies with actual ongoing lives...WHAM, kaput.

Parenthetically, I reject the hysterical premise that LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION = BILLABLE HOURS.

BELIEFS = FEELINGS, dressed up in their Sunday Best.

Your caps are making you less clear.

Abortion deaths are > 40 million legally since 1973.

And I am opposed to the war deaths too. Please note my OP in this thread. It is post #96.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Up until this election, Ron was very fine with this being a states right issues. I'm not saying I agree, but that's the fact. You'd think if it was a major priority to him it'd be a federal issue....again, not saying I agree but certainly some inconsistencies there.

Your caps are making you less clear.

Abortion deaths are > 40 million legally since 1973.

And I am opposed to the war deaths too. Please not my OP in this thread. It is post #96.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

What does Ron's stance have to do with it?

I am referring to the reason I choose to not support Gary Johnson.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Yet you support Ron, who's position isn't much different. Gary, personally, is pro-choice. Ron, personally, is not pro-choice. Both lean heavily towards allowing states to decide what they are either way.

If you're so gung-ho pro life, wouldn't you support a candidate that protected life at the federal level? In which case you might want to look at the constitution party candidate.

What does Ron's stance have to do with it?

I am referring to the reason I choose to not support Gary Johnson.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Ron has the Sanctity of Life Act. If that bill were to cross President Paul's desk, would he sign it?

Would President Johnson?


That is the difference. I believe, like Ron, that murder is generally a crime to be prosecuted on a state level. Not a federal level. But also, it shouldn't be unprosecuted, which is what Gary would want.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I'm well aware of the sanctity of life act. I can't say if Johnson would sign it or not. I can say, even if he did sign it, it would still leave the decision up to the states. GJ has always been an advocate of states rights.

That being said, all the sanctity of life act does is return jurisdiction to the states and provide a "definition" of when life begins.

I don't know many pro-lifers that are okay with some states aborting and others not aborting....just saying.

Ron has the Sanctity of Life Act. If that bill were to cross President Paul's desk, would he sign it?

Would President Johnson?


That is the difference. I believe, like Ron, that murder is generally a crime to be prosecuted on a state level. Not a federal level. But also, it shouldn't be unprosecuted, which is what Gary would want.

 

[falconplayer11]

Only the Liberty movement can get this guy to the 15% he needs to get in the national debates.

I think it's obvious we need to try, and there is nothing to lose from trying. Rand Paul and the national delegates are building goodwill for us in the Republican Party, so the rest of us need to refocus for the next 5 months on Gary Johnson. He's already at 8% nationally, we just need to add 7%. I think if we utilize all the tools we have for Dr. Paul, we can make this work.

So, what I want to hear from all of you is, if you agree, how do we get started? If you disagree, why?

Here's the daily show interview from last week. I think it proves that he's serious and ready to present a focused message to the American people.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-5-2012/gary-johnson

That's what it is about. Getting Gary on the national stage. We need to do this. Gary is actually going to be on the ballot come November. In all 50 states.

 

[nf7mate]

Normally I vote for the Constitution Party candidate for POTUS, but I don't like their nominee this cycle. I will vote for Gary if Romney is nominated, and I will likely talk him up to those in my circle, but I won't be campaigning for him. There are contests down ballot that have my attention.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Gary was on the national stage in the GOP primaries and did dismally.

 

[cheapseats]

Gary was on the national stage in the GOP primaries and did dismally.

Gary Johnson got even LESS time than the BLACKED OUT Ron Paul.

Gary Johnson bailed on the THOROUGHLY CORRUPT Republican Party Machine; Ron Paul clung to it.

Gary Johnson WILL be on the ballot in November; Ron Paul will not.

Gary Johnson HAS balanced a budget AND left a surplus; Ron Paul has not.

You are emotionally wrought or intellectually dishonest, or both.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Gary Johnson got even LESS time than the BLACKED OUT Ron Paul.

Gary Johnson bailed on the THOROUGHLY CORRUPT Republican Party Machine; Ron Paul clung to it.

Gary Johnson WILL be on the ballot in November; Ron Paul will not.

Gary Johnson HAS balanced a budget AND left a surplus; Ron Paul has not.

You are emotionally wrought or intellectually dishonest, or both.

And he will continue to get less time. You think they are going to give him much time in a debate between Romney and Obama, even if he could get on stage?
Johnson only bailed after the point he could done some good for Ron.

Sounds you probably ought to head over to garyjohnsonforums.com

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I think you're showing bias. Not only did he receive very little time, but he made the crowd laugh with that time. Likable guy, arguably a far better speaker than Ron. There's a reason he was able to become governor...he can speak and he can debate.

Gary was on the national stage in the GOP primaries and did dismally.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

There's that hat trick...you've confirmed you're dislike for GJ. Usually what the bashers say..."go to GJ forums." You, sailingaway, travlyr. Unreasonable.

I understand if one won't vote for Gary because they identify more with another candidate. But you've spent the majority of your time bashing Gary than finding the candidate if Ron isn't on the ballot.

And he will continue to get less time. You think they are going to give him much time in a debate between Romney and Obama, even if he could get on stage?
Johnson only bailed after the point he could done some good for Ron.

Sounds you probably ought to head over to garyjohnsonforums.com

 

[WhistlinDave]

I'm not doing your research for you but I'll point you in the proper direction. Rand came out to endorse Romney after his father conceded he would not win the nomination.

Did you not get his email? You'd think for someone that so strongly supported Ron would actually read the announcements Ron and the campaign make....

No, you didn't read it correctly. I don't remember reading anything conceding he would not get the nomination. What I read said it is "unlikely." Unless someone re-wrote the dictionary, there is a difference.

Perhaps you should worry about your own ability to "actually read the announcements."

 

[WhistlinDave]

You must be MAD AS A HORNET at Rand Paul, eh? Feeling as you do, you must SURELY be one of the people who believes that Rand Paul is TURNCOAT to the Liberty Moovement and BACK-STABBER of his own beloved father.

Not at all. I know you probably already read my post because you were on that thread, but for the benefit of anyone else who cares, this is what I said about the Rand situation, see post# 136:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?380042-CEASEFIRE!-regarding-the-Rand-Paul-situation/page4

LOL So dramatic with all the ALL CAPS!! I'm not sure if you're being silly or trying to annoy me or what.

 

[RickyJ]

I can't vote for Garry Johnson. He is pro-choice. I have never and will never vote for a candidate that is pro-choice.

 

[WhistlinDave]

Gary Johnson supporters, please click here:

+Rep... LOL