It's the economy, stupid

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[mconder]

What will happen to your holm when countrywide financial, the largest US lender, goes bankrupt?

They won't. There will be a colossal bailout using newly printed dollars. Everyone will pay a little for Countrywide's thievery. People will pay a few pennies more for the things they need and not know or care why.

 

[murrayrothbard]

Of course it's the economy. But RP CANNOT fix the economy. As in he cannot prevent the collapse. The only way to get to a healthy economy is for the current maladjusted structure to CORRECT. People don't want to hear this.

 

[mconder]

Of course it's the economy. But RP CANNOT fix the economy. As in he cannot prevent the collapse. The only way to get to a healthy economy is for the current maladjusted structure to CORRECT. People don't want to hear this.

You right that we will get a correction RP or no RP, but RP will lessen the blow because we won't be spending 1tril over seas.

 

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[JohnMatthews]

Take it from the former Fed Chairman....

To quote Alan Greenspan from his new book, The Age of Turbulence page 255:

"Historically, societies that seek high levels of instant gratification and are willing to borrow against future incomes to achieve it have more often than not suffered inflation and stagnation. The economies of such societies tend to run larger government budget deficits financed with fiat money from a printing press. Eventually, the ensuing inflation leads to recession, or worse, often because central banks are forced to clamp down. Then the process starts all over again. Many countries in Latin America have been particularly prone to this "populist" malady, as I discuss in chapter 17. I regret that the United States may not be wholly immune to it."

 

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[Broadlighter]

It's the monetary system, stupid!

Bill Clinton used the Economy, Stupid line in 1992 and look where it got us - a balloon economy that started going bust as he was leaving office - you know, that business cycle thing that most people believe is a natural phenomenah.

People may not understand it, but it should intrigue them and get them to ask questions. After all, most prognosticators of the debt money system have gotten away with "Monetary policy is too complicated for the average person to understand." BS for far too long.

Time to take the gloves off.

It's the monetary system, stupid!

 

[angelatc]

Definitely do both, but what i'm saying is that RP should be pushing the economy more strongly. Talking about the collapse of stock market, housing, how the war is destroying the economy, the rise in food and energy. These all hurt the average american and if we highlight these points they may consider what he has to say. When he talks about the war and eliminating the dpt of education they can't relate. What they can relate to is spending 3$ on gas and 5$ on milk.

If we don't focus more on the economy we have no chance. We should get this message to the campaign anyway we can.

Yes, I agree with this. I just saw another candidate's economy ad on Tucker, and it was very good. (That candidate was misleading about his record, but......the ad was good.)

I think the campaign needs better ads.

 

[Carole]

If it were about the anti-war more people would have voted for Dr. Paul.

I believe people are not so anti-war as we have been told. Look who they support.

 

[Carole]

The exit polls I saw indicated that the economy was the number one issue. Plus, Dr. Paul ties it to ending the war and overseas spending. Linking war and foreign policy to the economy is a better approach to reach Republicans.

Exactly! This seems to be the best way to speak about it. It brings both issues under one umbrella and leads into monetary policy, which people are not interested in actually. Just the part about inflation and "recession" (read depression).

It is always about the economy, expecially now when it is threatened. Fed is trying to band aid it. And again Jan 29th they will try to band aid it, but no one believes Bush who is "Confident" economy is good.

They are jumping through hoops trying to disguise the problem playing out during these primaries so they can get their stooge nominated. Behind the scenes, Bush is trying to pull some strings to help, I am sure.

 

[Carole]

Do you think he needs to find a way to denounce fair tax policy as well?

I think the fair tax could be dangerous because I can foresee people paying $2 for an apple instead of $1.59 if it adds 25% or 30% to the price of goods. Prices are terrible for food.

I do not foresee the prices coming down either since all these guys want to continue current policies, which will not cut spending one cent and only add more spending.

 

[partypoker]

Do you think he needs to find a way to denounce fair tax policy as well?

I think the fair tax could be dangerous because I can foresee people paying $2 for an apple instead of $1.59 if it adds 25% or 30% to the price of goods. Prices are terrible for food.

I do not foresee the prices coming down either since all these guys want to continue current policies, which will not cut spending one cent and only add more spending.

Yes, the fair tax would be horrible for the poor and would further promote this wealth redistribution from the bottom to the top. They want to raise taxes on the food, the only thing we really need to survive.

Last night he was stressing the economy and taking no bullshit which i thought was effective and eloquent.

 

[Carole]

I noticed that people below the $50,000 income were voting for Paul in decent numbers in NH. But then again, not enough of those who are struggling are actually voting.

Higher income folks seem to be splitting votes based on other issues because they are not suffering perhaps so much as lower income folks.

So ads and other literature and canvassing really need to address this issue more aggressiviely perhaps..

 

[partypoker]

IMO it's the most important issue. Everyone is spending 3$ on gas and 3$ on milk, when 8 years ago each was 1$. The markets are unraveling and we're going into depression/recession. RP has the most to gain from this issue.

 

[partypoker]

If you make the war the issue you disenfranchise 2/3rds of republicans.

It's the economy, stupid.