until Ron Paul can get the nomination. Face reality.. he will get record black vote turnout, record young voter turnout, and huge independent turnout. McCrazy and the neocons WILL NOT beat him. So until Obama does something really STUPID, or Rethuglicans nominate Dr Paul, Barack Obama is our next president.
Its President Obama now
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Sad but true.
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Obama is better than Hillary and all the Republicans besides Dr. Paul.
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Agreed, but if Clinton and McCain win the nomination, it will be the PERFECT set up for an independent run. Nobody that is really against the war and nobody that is really conservative.
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There is no chance Obama will beat Hillary..
And I don't know what the big deal is with the black vote.. There are 15% blacks but there are 50% women.. The black vote didn't help Gore and Kerry.. Both had over 90% of the black vote.. It meant zilch.
And I don't know what the big deal is with the black vote.. There are 15% blacks but there are 50% women.. The black vote didn't help Gore and Kerry.. Both had over 90% of the black vote.. It meant zilch.
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Apparently you missed all the polls for most of the Feb 5th states and Florida that show Clinton with double digit leads.
South Carolina will probably not be enough. There's two debates coming up, this will be a close close race.
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Yeah, just check out the AOL Straw Poll. Hillary's killing Barack.
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Turnout may be the key.
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We'll see what happens. I really do'nt think that Hillary is electable. I know ALOT of people who really don't know who they are going to vote for (until now 
), but were very vocal in saying who they WOULDN'T vote for (Hillary).
Also Hillary isn't getting close to ALL the women. Mostly only senior old women, and even then not a huge percentage.
), but were very vocal in saying who they WOULDN'T vote for (Hillary).Also Hillary isn't getting close to ALL the women. Mostly only senior old women, and even then not a huge percentage.
Online polls mean NOTHING. Real votes are all that count (even the Diebold ones
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Obama is a very ambitious man and he'll do whatever it takes to win, and that includes bringing on nefarious advisors and contributors. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing and don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
He's got that same charisma, a very special power over people, just like Clinton and JFK had.
He's got that same charisma, a very special power over people, just like Clinton and JFK had.
Yes, best odds are McCain vs. Hillary I think but you never know. If I were voting dem, it would probably be Bama time. The irony is if McCain gets it, many of our enemies in the GOP/Townhall circles will be talking the virtues of someone like Paul who they bashed only weeks before. We may have to be patient and look at this in a slightly longer time frame. The pain of McCain or Hillary could ultimately work in our favor.
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Blacks turned out in record numbers for Gore
Sorry, But 15% blacks can't beat the 50% women in the USA. There is no way Obama would beat Hillary.. My prediction is it won't be close.
Hillary is already placed high with the establishment.. She has attended Bilderberg meetings, she's heavy in the CFR etc..
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