It's on. The campaign to draft Ron Paul 2012 has been launched.

He should announce in 2010 if hes going to run, I agree. I also think Gary Johnson should announce shortly.
 
I don't see why he should announce before the midterm elections.
 
i think its a good idea because Ron is going to need that extra year to spread his name and message.

Unlike the dipshit Palin or Mitt Romney or Huckstrbee....Ron can't count on getting hellp from the media.

the only way around that is to start early and build rapidly
 
Alex Jones leading us off the cliff... I dont think Ron Paul should run. He'll only do it so his incompetent campaign people can claim massive expenses again
 
Alex Jones leading us off the cliff... I dont think Ron Paul should run. He'll only do it so his incompetent campaign people can claim massive expenses again

no argument on the incompetenance of his campaign, i'll grant you that.
 
And you'll think that will change why?

getting 8% in New Hampshire again? I CAN'T Wait!

He will appoint the same people so they can take their 10k a month.

We should be looking to win rather than educate. I think Johnson is a winner if he runs the ideal campaign and we can get behind him.
 
And you'll think that will change why?

getting 8% in New Hampshire again? I CAN'T Wait!

He will appoint the same people so they can take their 10k a month.

We should be looking to win rather than educate. I think Johnson is a winner if he runs the ideal campaign and we can get behind him.

"He's catchin on I'm tellin ya."

Whoever came up with that spot should have been beaten with a bamboo rod. With all the flaws of McCain, the door was wide open for an aggressive attack campaign to capture libertarian/conservative New Hampshire.

Instead, the bearded midget was our New Hampshire mascot.

Pathetic campaign from start to finish, mismanaged by overpaid, non creative, corporate Dilbert types. Talented people on this very forum could have created a kick ass campaign for free.
 
that's why i'm not too excited... I love RP but I think he should work with someone like Johnson...

If Johnson commits and runs a campaign we can't get better than that, he agrees with us on all the big issues
 
[ITalented people on this very forum could have created a kick ass campaign for free.

I'm all for kicking ass and taking names this time around. Last time was the learning experience, thousands of us were very green to the game of politics. Since then, a lot has changed.

As for AJ, love or hate him, I don't understand how he thinks its a good idea that he lead this drafting of the Dr. I can't get behind AJ with all the baggage he brings to the table. Just look at his recent circus act with the "20 minutes with Obama" deal. Seriously, that was weak.

What we need to do is continue to prepare for an eventual run while getting our ducks in a row. That means focusing on getting some liberty candidates in office in 2010 to give us momentum and credibility for the big dance.
 
that's why i'm not too excited... I love RP but I think he should work with someone like Johnson...

If Johnson commits and runs a campaign we can't get better than that, he agrees with us on all the big issues

yeah...but the name rec thing...

we'd have to start all over with "Who is Johnson?"
 
Alex Jones leading us off the cliff... I dont think Ron Paul should run. He'll only do it so his incompetent campaign people can claim massive expenses again

Wow.
I don't expect Ron to run. I don't like Alex Jones being the early champion of his candidacy. If Ron does run, it may not be to win, but to further educate, and that doesn't thrill me. If he runs, the same incompetent staff may, once again, foil his chances. But to suggest that the only reason he would run would be to pad the pockets of his campaign staff, is something I just can't let stand unchallenged. Do you really believe he is that unprincipled?
 
Wow.
I don't expect Ron to run. I don't like Alex Jones being the early champion of his candidacy. If Ron does run, it may not be to win, but to further educate, and that doesn't thrill me. If he runs, the same incompetent staff may, once again, foil his chances. But to suggest that the only reason he would run would be to pad the pockets of his campaign staff, is something I just can't let stand unchallenged. Do you really believe he is that unprincipled?

i dont think he was questioning RP's principles, but rather he is suggesting that RP is being undermined by a gaggle of self serving idiots (if not outright traitors) that the good hearted Ron has placed trust in.

Remember, if Ron had won the GOP nomination but then lost to Obama...a lot of these staffers would have been out of their cushy Congressional staff jobs.
 
Oh really

Oh God. It's being led by gross exaggerator and attention whore AJ.

I'll pass.

Alex Jones doesn't deserve your opinion. Jones is a saint who saw this long before you ever did. He has served this Revolution in ways you couldnt imagine and it pisses me off when ... heads like you attack a man that works hard to wake people up to the truth. WTF have you done? Where is your fucking radio show where is your fucking big mouth being heard. Oh yea ... to
 
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Alex Jones doesn't deserve your opinion. Jones is a saint who saw this long before you ever did. He has served this Revolution in ways you couldnt imagine and it pisses me off when ... heads like you attack a man that works hard to wake people up to the truth. WTF have you done? Where is your fucking radio show where is your fucking big mouth being heard. Oh yea ... to

I agree.

AJ invests money and time into DVD's and then urges people to GIVE them away free on YouTube.

Untalented haters disrespect him because that's what haters do. These little snob pricks think we can reach the masses with philosophical discourse, when the reality is...AJ's infotainment formula is what catches people.

Had AJ wanted to, he could easily sold out and become another Beck/Limbaugh superstar.
 
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OK, some facts to gut check and let's see where you fans really stand:

Alex Jones was at the forefront of encouraging Ron to run in late 2006 early 2007. I remember the interviews and shows clearly. He is doing the same thing again. If you have a problem with it, then you should bail out now, because Jones and his listeners, including people like me, will be here again, right on the front lines. We were not run off two years ago, we won't be run off this time around either. Deal with it.

Ron Paul has made some comments that running in 2012 is not out of the question, all other things being equal I suppose. Well, this is a RON PAUL forum. If you're somehow uncomfortable with the idea of supporting a 2012 run, they may I suggest you might be on the wrong board.

Ronald Reagan was beaten by Ford in the primaries leading up to the 1976 vote, only to come back with a vengeance in 1980. He was 69 when elected. Ron Paul would be 76. Ron Paul is amazingly fit for a man his age. Winning in 2012 is a not outside the realm of possibility. If I can put my extreme hatred and cynicism toward the "system" aside in order to go all out on another political campaign, so should everybody else. I'm nothing special, so WTF, lead, follow or get out of the way.

Run Ron run, I've got yer' back, 100 percent.
 
i dont think he was questioning RP's principles, but rather he is suggesting that RP is being undermined by a gaggle of self serving idiots (if not outright traitors) that the good hearted Ron has placed trust in.

Remember, if Ron had won the GOP nomination but then lost to Obama...a lot of these staffers would have been out of their cushy Congressional staff jobs.

+1

Those folks have let us down so much, they're like a handicap to us!

The reason I like the idea of Johnson is a new campaign, fresh ideas etc but you're right we will face the name rec problems but if RP runs they will just ignore him anyway
 
OK, some facts to gut check and let's see where you fans really stand:

Alex Jones was at the forefront of encouraging Ron to run in late 2006 early 2007. I remember the interviews and shows clearly. He is doing the same thing again. If you have a problem with it, then you should bail out now, because Jones and his listeners, including people like me, will be here again, right on the front lines. We were not run off two years ago, we won't be run off this time around either. Deal with it.

Ron Paul has made some comments that running in 2012 is not out of the question, all other things being equal I suppose. Well, this is a RON PAUL forum. If you're somehow uncomfortable with the idea of supporting a 2012 run, they may I suggest you might be on the wrong board.

Ronald Reagan was beaten by Ford in the primaries leading up to the 1976 vote, only to come back with a vengeance in 1980. He was 69 when elected. Ron Paul would be 76. Ron Paul is amazingly fit for a man his age. Winning in 2012 is a not outside the realm of possibility. If I can put my extreme hatred and cynicism toward the "system" aside in order to go all out on another political campaign, so should everybody else. I'm nothing special, so WTF, lead, follow or get out of the way.

Run Ron run, I've got yer' back, 100 percent.


To compare to Reagan is wrong, the people Ron Paul trusts/appoints couldnt run a presidential campaign if they had $100 million, often times I didnt think they were ever interested in truly winning, plenty of funny stuff went on (Iowa) and they were just plain bad

I dont want that experience again.

We need a new campaign, new people etc not the same old hacks milking expenses and screwing up which is exactly what will happen.
 
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