It's not THAT hard Ron...

We've tried this whole sticking our heads in the sand and saying it's been 'dismissed' before. It clearly has not worked. It doesn't matter that it's absurd that these are being brought up, it doesn't matter that it's been 'gone over' before. The circumstances are what they are and these allegations must be dealt with EFFECTIVELY because this is the reality and ignoring reality just because it's stupid will not win this election.

Honestly, if the campaign has not seen this coming I have no idea what they're being paid for. In spite of all the strides they've made, if their plan on this was 'Hope it doesn't come up and if it does hope it goes away', they aren't worth their paychecks. I simply cannot believe they are that incompetent. I'm being an asshole I know, but this is what's going to turn the tide here. I hope I'm wrong.
 
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The other thing to consider is the campaign may not have the final say. I would not be at all surprised if they haven't said to Paul just what the PR savvy people are saying here, but he said no to their suggestions. And when that happens, you just have to deal. It's the most exasperating part of working a campaign, but it happens all the time when you're a staffer.

If he's protecting a friend, it's an admirable thing in one way, and godawful timing in another.

I hope we're making a mountain of a molehill and that this doesn't have legs, but we'll see. We'll know in a few days, one way or another.
 
The other thing to consider is the campaign may not have the final say. I would not be at all surprised if they haven't said to Paul just what the PR savvy people are saying here, but he said no to their suggestions. And when that happens, you just have to deal. It's the most exasperating part of working a campaign, but it happens all the time when you're a staffer.

If he's protecting a friend, it's an admirable thing in one way, and godawful timing in another.

I hope we're making a mountain of a molehill and that this doesn't have legs, but we'll see. We'll know in a few days, one way or another.

If he is protecting a friend, he lied to us. If he is protecting a friend, he is a friend with a gigantic racist. Both would be horrible. He said he doesn't know who wrote it, so if he is protecting a friend (meaning he knows who wrote it), I'd be sick to my stomach. And such a "friend" (if they are still alive) and have not come out and said they wrote it...is no friend to Ron Paul for letting him take this brunt of hits.
 
I think that RP handled the newsletter question well on Ali Velshi yesterday.
 
The douchebag who wrote them needs to man up and admit it. Ron wouldn't rat someone out like that, he refused to even bring up Newt's affairs, you think he's going to speculate on who wrote them just to ruin lives to further his political career?
 
I support this message as well, running from the question will only incite more questions from the MACHINE
 
The douchebag who wrote them needs to man up and admit it. Ron wouldn't rat someone out like that, he refused to even bring up Newt's affairs, you think he's going to speculate on who wrote them just to ruin lives to further his political career?

Agreed. If Lew Rockwell (the most rumored author) wrote them then he needs to step up and save Paul's campaign.
 
If Ron Paul would just give the name of the person who wrote the newsletters and apologize for it appearing under his name the media would have to drop it. I haven't seen this video but if Ron Paul actually walked out on the interview then to the media that's like admitting guilt.


Why would that make them drop it? I think the problem with the OP and maybe some of you other folks who think Ron Paul isn't handling this perfectly is that you don't know the back story and maybe are too young to understand the technology of the day or what the liberty movement was like before the internet era. The "truth" is that Ron Paul has for decades been closely aligned with Murray Rothbard, Burt Blumert, and Lew Rockwell. Murray was an intellectual mentor. Burt was a business partner and friend till his dying day. Lew worked for Ron while he was in Congress, has tirelessly promoted him since, and remains a good friend. Before the internet, most Americans didn't even know the liberty movement existed. Obscure newsletters, catalogs, and reading lists were the only way a person might be exposed to the ideas of liberty. Ron would visit college campuses and two or three dorks would show in a tiny room to hear him talk. This was the context from which Murray Rothbard was trying bring individual anarchism/libertarianism in to the political mainstream. It was his belief that the best way to advance our ideas was to piggyback them in through alliances with more popular minority political positions. He first tried an alliance with the New Left, building on the mutual disgust with the Vietnam War. But he eventually gave up because the Left wouldn't let go of the support for coercive big government in anything to do with economic liberty. He then tried an alliance with paleconservatives and militia types, hoping to build on a mutual distrust for the Federal Government interfering in gun rights, economic liberty, and their tendency to shove leftist social views down people's throats. That too eventually failed because of the latter group's continued infatuation with protectionism and using government to shove conservative social views down people's throats. But it was during the attempted strategic alliance with the paleoconservative movement that these newsletters were written. It's not like some rogue racist snuck on the staff of the Ron Paul Newsletter and wrote something off script. None of the people associated with that Newsletter were racist. From a cultural standpoint, none of them even had much in common with paleo militia types. Murray was a classic New York City Jew. Lew is an urbane and deeply devout Roman Catholic. But the audience for the newsletters were protestant militia types from Montana and such and so the newsletters were tailored to appeal to them. That's the background Ron Paul would have to establish if he wanted to "explain" these Newsletters. Do you really think the American public has the attention span or intelligence to deal with that? Do you really think the MSM would ever give him the time to get all that out even if the public did? We're already hampered by having to try to explain complex concepts like Monetary Policy and the Non Aggression Principle. And you want us to waste our time and effort giving an in depth history of the libertarian movement all to explain away what at the end of the day is an utter irrelevancy?

The truth is, Ron Paul probably doesn't know who wrote what particular newsletter since he wasn't involved in writing or editing. That's great for us and allows him to give what is probably the best response we can to this issue: "I didn't write it, I didn't read it, and it doesn't reflect my views but I should have paid closer attention....Now, let's talk about Government Spending." Going in to details beyond that would be a disaster.
 
Why would that make them drop it? I think the problem with the OP and maybe some of you other folks who think Ron Paul isn't handling this perfectly is that you don't know the back story and maybe are too young to understand the technology of the day or what the liberty movement was like before the internet era. The "truth" is that Ron Paul has for decades been closely aligned with Murray Rothbard, Burt Blumert, and Lew Rockwell. Murray was an intellectual mentor. Burt was a business partner and friend till his dying day. Lew worked for Ron while he was in Congress, has tirelessly promoted him since, and remains a good friend. Before the internet, most Americans didn't even know the liberty movement existed. Obscure newsletters, catalogs, and reading lists were the only way a person might be exposed to the ideas of liberty. Ron would visit college campuses and two or three dorks would show in a tiny room to hear him talk. This was the context from which Murray Rothbard was trying bring individual anarchism/libertarianism in to the political mainstream. It was his belief that the best way to advance our ideas was to piggyback them in through alliances with more popular minority political positions. He first tried an alliance with the New Left, building on the mutual disgust with the Vietnam War. But he eventually gave up because the Left wouldn't let go of the support for coercive big government in anything to do with economic liberty. He then tried an alliance with paleconservatives and militia types, hoping to build on a mutual distrust for the Federal Government interfering in gun rights, economic liberty, and their tendency to shove leftist social views down people's throats. That too eventually failed because of the latter group's continued infatuation with protectionism and using government to shove conservative social views down people's throats. But it was during the attempted strategic alliance with the paleoconservative movement that these newsletters were written. It's not like some rogue racist snuck on the staff of the Ron Paul Newsletter and wrote something off script. None of the people associated with that Newsletter were racist. From a cultural standpoint, none of them even had much in common with paleo militia types. Murray was a classic New York City Jew. Lew is an urbane and deeply devout Roman Catholic. But the audience for the newsletters were protestant militia types from Montana and such and so the newsletters were tailored to appeal to them. That's the background Ron Paul would have to establish if he wanted to "explain" these Newsletters. Do you really think the American public has the attention span or intelligence to deal with that? Do you really think the MSM would ever give him the time to get all that out even if the public did? We're already hampered by having to try to explain complex concepts like Monetary Policy and the Non Aggression Principle. And you want us to waste our time and effort giving an in depth history of the libertarian movement all to explain away what at the end of the day is an utter irrelevancy?

The truth is, Ron Paul probably doesn't know who wrote what particular newsletter since he wasn't involved in writing or editing. That's great for us and allows him to give what is probably the best response we can to this issue: "I didn't write it, I didn't read it, and it doesn't reflect my views but I should have paid closer attention....Now, let's talk about Government Spending." Going in to details beyond that would be a disaster.

First, thanks for your explanation of the climate. I learned some stuff I didn't know before.

Second, that makes me feel sick. The idea that the newsletter was purposefully tailored to appeal to a group of bigots, and the people that Ron surrounded himself with were complacent.
 
not lew

Agreed. If Lew Rockwell (the most rumored author) wrote them then he needs to step up and save Paul's campaign.

c'mon lew said he didnt do it.this is ridiculous. lew is up there with ron as a fighter for liberty.if lew did this,it is the end of the dream. ron paul has frequent stories on lewrockwell.com and interviews with him regularly.if lew now comes and tries to be the 'fall guy',the campaign is over.
ghost writers always cause these problems.it was moment of weakness and not a character flaw for ron paul.i sleep well -to echo the man
 
I agree with cdc482 and I think his response is exactly right. I would much rather see Dr. Paul respond in that fashion every time he is asked than to give the msm just what they are looking for in his reaction and response.
 
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