It is time to open our eyes.

[FreeTraveler]

TWO MONTHS ago I asked them for the training videos so I could make DVDs and put it on the podcast. Two months later, not even a reply. WHY are the training videos stuck on their site protected with a password when we could hand them out to people on DVD?

Great point! Do you mean to tell me we don't have ONE PERSON who's clever enough to rip those things off the official site and make them available for other use? Yes, I'm advocating theft; this is a TERRIBLE decision by HQ, and stealing those videos to make them available for promoting Dr. Paul is a legitimate form of civil disobedience, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I don't think enthusiasm has to blind us from the truth. We have to learn from our mistakes, and evaluate right now what went wrong.

I decided to have an attitude of wait and see. I have waited, and now I have seen, and I am not going to keep this silent: THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN IS DOING ALL WRONG.

So, I propose that the first order of business must be to pressure Ron Paul, to fire his current campaign managers, and use the millions we have given him to hire and effective PR company, and a great advertising agency.

When Bill Buckley was at a dinner party he once commented, "I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." We should be so lucky. It isn't just the managers.

 

[FreeTraveler]

The way we did it with FOX: We flood his email with requests to have seasoned experts in his staff.

He has a bunch of amateurs, and this is way over their heads. As Ron Paul himself said: "We have so much money, we don't know what to do with it".
And it shows.

If there are enough of us sending emails, he has to reconsider his current staff.

But first we must get over the tabu that it is wrong to criticize the official campaign. WE MUST CRITICIZE NOW. Otherwise it will be too late.

Duh... who do you think READS HIS EMAIL!!! He'll get the ones they want him to get. WE have to step forward as the grassroots, and fix the areas they can't handle. Look what the Blimp and the Operation New Hampshire ads are like compared to the ads from the campaign. SUPPORT those projects with your time and money.

 

[rjl]

Why not? It cannot be the lack of money. Huckabee has almost no cash, and look at his GENIUS campaign.

The grassroots for Ron Paul is great. But it is like running with only one leg, we need both a good grassroots and a great campaign.
Iowa has shown us that the best grassroots in the world is no match to a good official campaign.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the official campaign get more effective. Right now, from what I hear, they're not even really advertising in SC. I've sent a few e-mails to the campaign and never had one returned. I don't know what we can do to make the official campaign listen to us, but I definitely know what we can do on our own. Grassroots projects like the blimp, Ron Paul Billboards, Ron Paul Air Corps, and the Jeremiah Black project are doing what the campaign doesn't.

Robert

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com

 

[Bradley in DC]

Reagan had more time to re-group between primaries.

All the more reason not to wait any longer.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Members here are young, sensationalist, and emotional.

Not those of us who have been warning about what we see and what to expect, no.

[immature smilie added for effect: ]

 

[Bradley in DC]

Coboman is wise and speaks the truth. The rest of you better open your eyes to the fact that the campaign is run by idiots.

If Ron Paul doesn't hire an ad agency and soon, he can give it all up. I am sick of calling the campaign headquarters and speaking to kids half my kids' age and not one of them has an ounce of respect or intelligence in their body. Good ideas get ignored, great ideas aren't understood

They better learn from their mistakes, quickly.

+1

 

[Bradley in DC]

AINT TOO BAD! McCain and THompson got 13% each, so Paul is 4TH!

You are more than qualified to be hired by the official campaign.

 

[FreeTraveler]

Read a thread on here earlier that a grassroots person contact the political advertising company who helped win Ventura the governor spot and helped Dean do well before the 'dean scream'. They mentioned that they wanted to work with the Paul campaign, that they'd tried over and over to contact the campaign and they hadn't gotten so much as a phone call back from anybody.

Professional help is out there, the campaign is just refusing it.

*Edit: Pardon my french, but holy shit these are good. !!!!

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com/

If they want to help, GET THEM ON HERE to help US! WE can do ANYTHING to promote Dr. Paul that the campaign COULD do. HQ HAS to handle the legal stuff, but we can take over the rest. We just have to decide to do it that way. Support the Blimp and Operation Broadcast Freedom, and look for other projects. Use the FREE MARKET of the grassroots if you're not happy with HQ.

 

[ronpaulfan]

The campaign people are bozos. Here are a few examples:

• They didn't update the website until LATE MORNING on Dec 17th after we broke the US fundraising record. Should have been updated right away. As a consequence, we received almost NO coverage that morning.
  
  
• The people running RonPaul2008DotCom on YouTube are COMPLETELY STUPID. They have no idea how to get videos to top the charts. They are SCREWING UP SO MUCH I WANT TO CRY.
  
  
• On January 1st and 2nd, our website had our 2008 earnings on them. WTF!!! That confused newcomers making them think we raised SQUAT!!
  
  
• The main website is CLUTTERED. It is an eyesore to look at. Where is our record fundraising? 50% straw poll wins? most money from troops? Too much information to sift through = TURN OFF
  
  
• The campaign needs to NOT SUCK and then LEAD THE GRASSROOTS. With one email they could mobilize an ARMY of canvassers or get EVERYONE to actually GO to their local meetup. Every email to this point has been about fundraising. WE NEED REAL LEADERSHIP FROM THE CAMPAIGN. How to get it? Sad to say it but: CLEAN HOUSE AND HIRE PROFESSIONALS

 

[partypooper]

I am sick of calling the campaign headquarters and speaking to kids half my kids' age and not one of them has an ounce of respect or intelligence in their body.

first, who hired all those kids? second, i heard dr paul repeatedly emphasizing the wisdom of the young and how young people follow him.

i am 35 and i am very annoyed by that. i can only imagine how conservatives in their sixties feel.

 

[freelance]

When Bill Buckley was at a dinner party he once commented, "I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University." We should be so lucky. It isn't just the managers.

Bradley, you have some influence. Can't you use it? Huckabee got Ed Rollins with no money in the bank.

What's your take on Drew Ivers? If he's all he's cracked up to be, then why isn't he at the national campaign. I (perhaps wrongly) fault him with not getting out the vote, since less than 1000 votes would have put us in third place--WAY less than that if we had peeled equal numbers from Thompson and McCain, but I don't think that we thought of either of them as the real threats a few days ago. Anyway, aside from that and the repetitive auto-calls, which cannot be blamed on him, because the grassroots takes some of that blame, I can't think of anything else to say negatively. Ron Paul was only going to put in the face time he did. No one was going to convince him to spend more time and resources in Iowa, and supporter/surrogates don't cut it in the early states.

Sorry about the ramble, but I'm just not sure what to think about last night, except that I keep focusing on how very close we came to third place. It was within our grasp. What can we learn from last night, except that we need to get out every single voter. Oh, that and all polls are not created equally.

 

[marcus3x]

I don't think enthusiasm has to blind us from the truth. We have to learn from our mistakes, and evaluate right now what went wrong.

I decided to have an attitude of wait and see. I have waited, and now I have seen, and I am not going to keep this silent: THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN IS DOING ALL WRONG.

The grassroots has done a great job on the internet, and canvassing. But we need a good Main Stream campaign.
That means good advertising on radio and TV. Good PR to get more exposure in MSM (Yes, a good PR can get that, even against the conspiracy of big media). And coordination of our efforts.

We need the official campaign to step up to the challenge, and it is abundantly clear, that the current people running it cannot do it.

So, I propose that the first order of business must be to pressure Ron Paul, to fire his current campaign managers, and use the millions we have given him to hire and effective PR company, and a great advertising agency.


I know that I will be labeled as a troll, and be told to STFU, but unless we realize this fact, we are doomed to repeat these same mistakes.
The polls were almost dead on. That means another fifth place for NH if we don't do something right now.

i agree and this should've been done a long time ago.

 

[noztnac]

I made a thread called "What is war? We need to remind people."

It was deleted. Someone on this forum objected, I guess, to graphic images from the Iraq war and deleted the post. The entire purpose of my post was to point out that people need to be confronted with the harsh realities of war and stop pretending that they don't exist. I find it very troubling that my thread was deleted and I was not even contacted and given an explanation.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I reccomend we mail bomb the campaign and you all ignored it...I think now might be a good time to follow my advice!

I feel your pain, I really do. The problem is the execution. The ones to get the message are the volunteers there who are already treated terribly by the official staffers whose jobs they're doing. In the face of legitimate criticism, they fire who they can, ostracize the rest and if they persist they make up false rumors about them (the ones about me are hilariously entertaining).

 

[Bradley in DC]

I made a thread called "What is war? We need to remind people."

It was deleted. Someone on this forum objected, I guess, to graphic images from the Iraq war and deleted the post. The entire purpose of my post was to point out that people need to be confronted with the harsh realities of war and stop pretending that they don't exist. I find it very troubling that my thread was deleted and I was not even contacted and given an explanation.

While I have no idea why your thread was deleted, could you explain HOW that wins elections?

 

[coboman]

I reccomend we mail bomb the campaign and you all ignored it...I think now might be a good time to follow my advice!

I have suggested the email bomb again, and people think that it is bad.

That it will take valuable time from the campaign, who is too busy right now doing it all wrong. So they don't have time to listen that they are making huge mistakes. They only have time to make more mistakes.

 

[Redcard]

It's kind of a sad thing. Dr. Paul's Campaign HQ is just not up to snuff because they don't trust the media, because they don't trust the media, the media doesn't work with them, and it just turns into a vicious cycle.

With a hq like that, you don't need a MSM conspiracy. Never attribute to malice what is more aptly explained by stupidity. Only, in the end, we're all going to blame the MSM anyway.

 

[coboman]

Never attribute to malice what is more aptly explained by stupidity.

Heinlein's Razor. My favorite axiom ever.

Yes, the current path will lead us to defeat, and I find 5 major ways of thought that are forbidding us to make the right changes to win:

1) The grassroots can win this on its own.

2) The polls are not accurate.

3) The Official campaign knows what it is doing, and has a secret plan.

4) The lack of exposure on MSM is a conspiracy, and has nothing to do with the incompetence of the PR of the official campaign.

5) Think positive. If you believe something, it will come true.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

All of these issues are irrelevant. We are in the WRONG PARTY. The GOP will NEVER, EVER accept Ron and his anti-war, pro-drug-legalization platform. It will simply NEVER happen, no matter what we do. We need to move quickly to get Ron into the general election with a new party.