It is time to open our eyes.

[coboman]

Fire everyone at the official campaign

I don't think enthusiasm has to blind us from the truth. We have to learn from our mistakes, and evaluate right now what went wrong.

I decided to have an attitude of wait and see. I have waited, and now I have seen, and I am not going to keep this silent: THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN IS DOING ALL WRONG.

The grassroots has done a great job on the internet, and canvassing. But we need a good Main Stream campaign.
That means good advertising on radio and TV. Good PR to get more exposure in MSM (Yes, a good PR can get that, even against the conspiracy of big media). And coordination of our efforts.

We need the official campaign to step up to the challenge, and it is abundantly clear, that the current people running it cannot do it.

So, I propose that the first order of business must be to pressure Ron Paul, to fire his current campaign managers, and use the millions we have given him to hire and effective PR company, and a great advertising agency.


I know that I will be labeled as a troll, and be told to STFU, but unless we realize this fact, we are doomed to repeat these same mistakes.
The polls were almost dead on. That means another fifth place for NH if we don't do something right now.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Unfortunately I must agree. Try calling the other campaigns and you get dealt with, call our campaign, nothing happens.

TWO MONTHS ago I asked them for the training videos so I could make DVDs and put it on the podcast. Two months later, not even a reply. WHY are the training videos stuck on their site protected with a password when we could hand them out to people on DVD?

The official campaign is holding back Ron Paul's success. And I don't care how many people tell me I'm being negative. I work full time for Ron Paul as a grassroots supporter, I am voicing this because things NEED to change in order for us to win.

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[KMA-NWO]

valid points, bump

 

[Akus]

...I propose that the first order of business must be to pressure Ron Paul, to fire his current campaign managers, and use the millions we have given him to hire and effective PR company, and a great advertising agency.

how?

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

You are a troll. Stfu.

J/k. Actually, you're absolutely right. It's time for Ronald Paul to pull a Ronald Reagan. In 1980, Reagan bombed in the Iowa caucuses, fired his entire top level campaign, and went on to win the nomination.

 

[atilla]

I don't think enthusiasm has to blind us from the truth. We have to learn from our mistakes, and evaluate right now what went wrong.

I decided to have an attitude of wait and see. I have waited, and now I have seen, and I am not going to keep this silent: THE OFFICIAL CAMPAIGN IS DOING ALL WRONG.

The grassroots has done a great job on the internet, and canvassing. But we need a good Main Stream campaign.
That means good advertising on radio and TV. Good PR to get more exposure in MSM (Yes, a good PR can get that, even against the conspiracy of big media). And coordination of our efforts.

We need the official campaign to step up to the challenge, and it is abundantly clear, that the current people running it cannot do it.

So, I propose that the first order of business must be to pressure Ron Paul, to fire his current campaign managers, and use the millions we have given him to hire and effective PR company, and a great advertising agency.


I know that I will be labeled as a troll, and be told to STFU, but unless we realize this fact, we are doomed to repeat these same mistakes.
The polls were almost dead on. That means another fifth place for NH if we don't do something right now.

i got an idea, why don't you run for president then you can do it your way.

 

[sasha_2008]

TWO MONTHS ago I asked them for the training videos so I could make DVDs and put it on the podcast.

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Not sure what you are looking for but these might be helpful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr3yEvGOAi8 ~Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4vksazLec ~Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LOyn-vwfVI ~ Part 3

 

[apc3161]

I agree sadly.

If his campaign managers had any integrity, they would resign.

No one expected Paul to do this well, no one expected him to raise so much money. They are out of their leagues, they have to realize this, resign and bring in professionals.

 

[coboman]

how?

The way we did it with FOX: We flood his email with requests to have seasoned experts in his staff.

He has a bunch of amateurs, and this is way over their heads. As Ron Paul himself said: "We have so much money, we don't know what to do with it".
And it shows.

If there are enough of us sending emails, he has to reconsider his current staff.

But first we must get over the tabu that it is wrong to criticize the official campaign. WE MUST CRITICIZE NOW. Otherwise it will be too late.

 

[Akus]

The way we did it with FOX: We flood his email with requests to have seasoned experts in his staff.

He has a bunch of amateurs, and this is way over their heads. As Ron Paul himself said: "We have so much money, we don't know what to do with it".
And it shows.

If there are enough of us sending emails, he has to reconsider his current staff.

But first we must get over the tabu that it is wrong to criticize the official campaign. WE MUST CRITICIZE NOW. Otherwise it will be too late.

Again, how do you contact directly Ron Paul?
You can't just send a note to ronpaul2008.com and say, Ron, fire everyone, because we sucked Mike Huckabee's cock in IA.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Members here are young, sensationalist, and emotional.

Guys just need to learn to relax... Understand the meaning of the Buddhist saying "mind like water".

 

[Thunderbolt]

Coboman is wise and speaks the truth. The rest of you better open your eyes to the fact that the campaign is run by idiots. The one reason we are all here is Freedom. So what does Ron Paul lead with in his commercials? Abortion. A ton of here are atheists. What does Ron Paul run with second? Religion. If you think that is going to get it done, you are foolish.

If Ron Paul doesn't hire an ad agency and soon, he can give it all up. I am sick of calling the campaign headquarters and speaking to kids half my kids' age and not one of them has an ounce of respect or intelligence in their body. Good ideas get ignored, great ideas aren't understood, and the morons think they can win this with the Republican base, so they are pandering to it.

Have they lost it? Huckabee is the traditional (now) Republican. He is a liar, very religious and wants to rule the world and all women's bodies. Ron Paul cannot out Huckabee Huckabee and he should not even try. Doing so is plain old stupid.

The only way Ron Paul has a chance is with the general public, the non-Republicans. He is a different kind of candidate with a different kind of message and to try to pretend he is not just waters down what makes him wonderful.

Where is the talk about ending the war? Getting rid of the Patriot Act? Restoring our civil liberties? Why does it take nearly a month to get a sign from the campaign to put in your front yard? They lack all urgency and hopefully this will kick them awake.

Everything they did in Iowa failed. They better learn from their mistakes, quickly.

 

[grunt]

You are a troll. Stfu.

J/k. Actually, you're absolutely right. It's time for Ronald Paul to pull a Ronald Reagan. In 1980, Reagan bombed in the Iowa caucuses, fired his entire top level campaign, and went on to win the nomination.

Reagan had more time to re-group between primaries.

 

[cswake]

Coboman is wise and speaks the truth. The rest of you better open your eyes to the fact that the campaign is run by idiots. The one reason we are all here is Freedom. So what does Ron Paul lead with in his commercials? Abortion. A ton of here are atheists. What does Ron Paul run with second? Religion. If you think that is going to get it done, you are foolish.

Take a look at the level of religion in Iowa and why Huckabee did so well. Those commercials were *perfect* for the state.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Members here are young, sensationalist, and emotional.

Guys just need to learn to relax... Understand the meaning of the Buddhist saying "mind like water".

Mind like water IS the campaign's mantra. Not working. Get a clue. I am probably old enough to have fathered you and I can tell you that laying back and just letting things come does not work in a Presidential election. You need a good competent staff, something he does not have. You need a staff that has Presidential election experience, something he does not have. You need to know what your main message is and stop trying to pander to a group you cannot win over.

 

[Thunderbolt]

Take a look at the level of religion in Iowa and why Huckabee did so well. Those commercials were *perfect* for the state.

Take a look at the numbers of Dems who came out to vote and tell me how perfect they were for the state. Haven't you learned yet? He cannot win with the Republicans. He must have Dems and Inds. He will lose every time to Huckabee in a battle over religion. He will also lose to Huckabee every time in a battle over abortion. But he will win hands down if he focuses on the economy and the war.

Why do you think there are so few Republicans left? Because most of America doesn't give a damn about religion when the oil is one hundred dollars a barrel.

You have to go with your strengths and not pander to a certain group. He does that in voting, why not do it now? How dumb are they?

 

[coboman]

Again, how do you contact directly Ron Paul?

I we agree on this, we will find a way.

I insist on getting over this tabu of "respecting" the official campaign.

Many of us had critiques previously, that were met with the very valid argument of "wait, they know what they are doing". I have waited. And now I have learned that they don't know what they are doing.

I propose another moneybomb. A massive online donation of only $1 per person, with each of us dissatisfied with the official campaign donating.

This has to make Ron Paul realize that we want change. We need change, right now.

 

[steelhawk]

I agree.. who's ever in charge of the advertising needs to go. Grass roots youtube videos are more moving than the crap they put out.

 

[apc3161]

Take a look at the numbers of Dems who came out to vote and tell me how perfect they were for the state. Haven't you learned yet? He cannot win with the Republicans. He must have Dems and Inds. He will lose every time to Huckabee in a battle over religion. He will also lose to Huckabee every time in a battle over abortion. But he will win hands down if he focuses on the economy and the war.

Why do you think there are so few Republicans left? Because most of America doesn't give a damn about religion when the oil is one hundred dollars a barrel.

You have to go with your strengths and not pander to a certain group. He does that in voting, why not do it now? How dumb are they?

The campaign managers have to suck up their pride, get out of the way, and let the real professionals come in. They are out of their league. If they don't realize that they are hurting his campaign, we have problems.

 

[TwiLeXia]

I completely agree. With a better campaign staff, Ron Paul's amazing message could have reached so many more people.

Instead, we are getting crappy PR, crappy ads, and crappy organization and coordination.

This is an amazing message. But this is not an amazing campaign. The ads have sucked. HQ is slow with talking with media figures and unassertive. HQ didn't even ask people to donate for 20 million on New Year's Eve.

ALL the good things about this campaign have come ENTIRELY from grassroots:

The Videos on Youtube by Avaroth and Eliberty, with over 1 million views.
The Money Bombs on Nov. 5 and Dec 16.
The Blimp and the Jeremiah Black Ads, better than any ad I've seen from Campaign HQ so far.

I certainly don't believe that Ron Paul would have done the way he did in Iowa with a better HQ.