It Is Time To End the Fixation with Federal Law Enforcement

[Invisible Man]

In fairness, D’Souza’s belief that the FBI has been recently politicized is an inaccurate depiction of the institution's controversial history. The FBI’s involvement in arresting and snooping on antiwar protesters during World War I and the Vietnam War, coupled with the controversial sieges it carried out at Ruby Ridge and Waco, showcases a longstanding track record of malfeasances that conservatives have largely overlooked.

Señor Niño does not understand conservatives. They didn't overlook those things. They relished them.

 

[PAF]

When is government going to set up a bureau that protects us from government?

Bump, in case [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] missed the shoutout

 

[Swordsmyth]

Señor Niño does not understand conservatives. They didn't overlook those things. They relished them.

Bunk.

 

[acptulsa]

Bunk.

You aren't old enough to have been there. You don't know, you can't know, how true it really was. Many Republicans did relish those things. I'm going with my lying eyes on this one, not your blind faith.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You aren't old enough to have been there. You don't know, you can't know, how true it really was. Many Republicans did relish those things. I'm going with my lying eyes on this one, not your blind faith.

You were around for WWI when the Demoncrat Wilson was using the FBI against his enemies?
Republicans cheered the Demoncrat Clinton for Ruby Ridge and Waco in your universe?

The only one that might have some truth to it is Vietnam and that was because the anti-war people embraced communism and treason, some perhaps did not, but many were being led by Soviet agents and many more were degenerate anarchists.
The modern violent death to America left got its start in the Vietnam protests, and still has many of the same leaders or had them until they died recently for some.

 

[acptulsa]

Republicans cheered the Demoncrat Clinton for Ruby Ridge and Waco in your universe?

In real life. Live and in person. Absolutely.

Did they impeach Clinton for ordering that crime? No. But they were willing and able to impeach him for lying about a blow job.

 

[Swordsmyth]

In real life. Live and in person. Absolutely.

Did they impeach Clinton for ordering that crime? No. But they were willing and able to impeach him for lying about a blow job.

Oh, so now you are moving the goalposts to the RINOs in the uniparty?

Invisible Man was clearly accusing all Republican/Conservative voters of cheering and everyone can see it.

 

[acptulsa]

Oh, so now you are moving the goalposts to the RINOs in the uniparty?

We were talking about Trump, so no one has changed the subject.

 

[Swordsmyth]

We were talking about Trump, so no one has changed the subject.

That's just a lie:

Señor Niño does not understand conservatives. They didn't overlook those things. They relished them.

 

[Occam's Banana]

The FBI Has Been Political from the Start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FamD2Udmotk
{Mises Media | 05 December 2024}

The Washington political establishment is alarmed that President-elect Trump wants to appoint Kash Patel as FBI director [see this thread - OB], claiming that Trump’s choice will “politicize” the FBI. However, the FBI has always acted as secret police for the established political class.

Read the article here: https://mises.org/mises-wire/fbi-has-been-political-start [see below - OB]



The FBI Has Been Political from the Start
https://mises.org/mises-wire/fbi-has-been-political-start
{Connor O'Keeffe | 04 December 2024}

On Saturday night, Donald Trump announced he intends to appoint Kash Patel as director of the FBI [see this thread - OB]. The news sparked an immediate frenzy from establishment figures across media and politics. Legal and national security “experts” were deployed to the Sunday morning news shows to characterize the move as evidence that Trump intends to politicize the FBI and use it as a weapon against his many political opponents.

The political establishment’s concerns about what a Trump FBI could do mirror a lot of what we’ve heard from the right in recent years as they found themselves in the Bureau’s crosshairs.

But almost all of these complaints and warnings have operated under the assumption that—with maybe the exception of a few bad episodes in the 1960s—the FBI has long been an essential crime-fighting force that has only recently become—or threatens to become—corrupted by politics.

In truth, the FBI has always been used as a weapon against political movements and rivals of the established political class. That’s the reason it was created.

At the end of the 1800s, left-wing anarchists were attacking heads of state all across Europe. In a few short years, the king of Italy, the prime minister of Spain, the empress of Austria, and the president of France were all assassinated by anarchists. While no communist or anarchist movement had yet to take over a country, the tenacity of these activists and revolutionaries was seriously concerning those in power in the United States.

Then, in 1901, President William McKinley was shot and killed by an anarchist while attending a meet-and-greet in Buffalo, New York, which brought his vice president, Theodore Roosevelt, into office. It was President Roosevelt who tapped his Attorney General Charles Bonaparte—the grandnephew of Napoleon—to create the FBI.

The AG was required by law to get congressional approval before creating this new “investigative” service of special agents within the Department of Justice. In the spring of 1908, Bonaparte officially requested the money and authority to create the FBI. Congress came back with an emphatic no.

Members of the House saw through the innocuous language of the request and figured out exactly what the president and AG were doing—creating a secret police force that was answerable only to them.

House Democrats like Joseph Swagar and John J. Fitzgerald and Republicans like Walter I. Smith and George Waldo all loudly condemned the proposal, saying it called for a “system of espionage” comparable to the Tsar’s secret police in Russia that stood in stark contrast to the very principles at the heart of the American system. Congress explicitly forbade the AG from creating this new Bureau.

So what did Bonaparte do? He waited for Congress to break for the summer and then went ahead and created the FBI anyway.

Congress was only notified about the new federal police force half a year later when Bonaparte included a quick throw-away line at the end of his annual report: “It became necessary for the department to organize a small force of special agents of its own.”

So, the FBI was not created in response to out-of-control crime; its creation was a crime.

Immediately, the new Bureau was unleashed on anyone and everyone who was perceived as a threat to those in power. That started with left-wing anarchists but quickly expanded to include many antiwar activists as President Wilson pulled the country into World War I.

From the outset, the FBI operated primarily as a domestic intelligence agency—recruiting spies within groups they were targeting and breaking into offices and homes, intercepting mail, and tapping the phones of anyone they considered a threat.

As the years wore on—like most other executive agencies—the Bureau evolved away from serving the direct interests of whoever happened to sit in the Oval Office to instead serve its own interest and the interest of the broader entrenched, permanent power structure in Washington.

In the ‘50s, ‘60s, and ‘70s, the FBI conducted covert operations aimed at inciting violence between domestic groups, breaking up political organizations it disapproved of, and, perhaps most famously, collecting blackmail on Martin Luther King Jr. that they then tried to use to drive him to commit suicide.

Although today’s FBI acknowledges and publicly disavows these past activities, they are still carrying out egregious operations that always seem to benefit the political class. The Bureau has taken up a kind of sting operation where, over and over again, agents find isolated, gullible, often mentally-handicapped young men, pretend to be political radicals or higher-ups in a terrorist organization, and then convince the young men to plan and carry out a terrorist attack with FBI-funds and resources. Agents then step in at the end and act like they heroically stopped a real plot.

The FBI did this relentlessly with young Muslim men after 9/11. The arrests helped prolong the perception that the global war on terror and extreme measures like the Patriot Act were necessary.

In recent years, the FBI has conducted a number of similar schemes with right-wing groups—advancing the establishment’s narrative that Donald Trump is radicalizing “uneducated” middle Americans and turning them into violent insurrectionists.

And then there are, of course, all the ways the FBI directly tried to undermine and hinder Trump’s first term. Right-wingers are correctly deriding the establishment for panicking about Trump’s FBI doing to them what they have tried to do to him. But many—on both sides—go wrong when they present the Bureau as only recently, or imminently, being corrupted into serving the interests of those in power. That’s been its role since the beginning.

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/scotthortonshow/status/1966492184179277955

We did not abolish the FBI after

COINTELPRO

They murdered Vicky Weaver

They murdered the Branch Davidians

They covered up OKC

They missed Robert Hanssen, Aldrich Ames

They framed Richard Jewell

They framed Wen Ho Lee

They framed Brandon Mayfield

They protected Whitey Bulger

They protected Jeffrey Epstein

They failed to catch the Unabomber

They helped ATF run guns to CIA drug cartels in Mexico

They protected Larry Nasser

Their corrupt crime labs sent untold thousands of innocents to prison

They murdered Levoy Finicum

They entrapped hundreds of Muslims, lefties and rightwingers into bogus terrorism plots

They failed to prevent WTC '93, 9/11, Ft. Hood, Little Rock, Boston, San Bernardino, Orlando, Pensacola, Corpus Christie, New Orleans and other actual terrorist plots

They helped CIA frame Trump for treason with Russia and attempt to depose him

They covered up the facts in the Biden laptop through Trump's impeachment

They illegally surveilled Catholic Churches

They helped mercilessly persecute the J6 defendants

They censored Americans who told the truth about the regime and its crimes

They lie about EVERYTHING.

And now for almost two entire days they completely failed to contribute to the capture of Charlie Kirk's assassin in any way. They didn't even have his name.

The president says that he was turned in by a family member.

America is better off without the FBI.

 

[acptulsa]

The FBI involvement in the Charlie Kirk murder did exactly nothing to solve the case and apprehend the murderer. Exactly nothing.

But the FBI involvement does appear to have controlled and sanitized what information we have received to a great degree. How much could we learn from the footage from the surveillance camera in the stairwell? Was he still walking like he had a rifle barrel in his pants leg? Who opened the roof door? But all we get is a few still frames, and it took hours to get those (with the murderer running loose through society at large).

Will we get the complete, full motion footage? Holding your breath?

I can't say with certainty that the FBI exerted this rigorous control over information, but I can say with certainty that this is the FBI modus operandi.

 

[Occam's Banana]

It Is Time To End the Fixation with Federal Law Enforcement

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[Voluntarist]

and many more were degenerate anarchists

Well, I try.