Islam and Christianity

Apparently so. Something squirrely in his coffee perhaps. I'm not really familiar with him, so I don't know if this is his normal behavior, but I'd guess not or else he would have been banned by now.

It's just ironic that I'm trying to give him a tool that logical people use (the irrational use of ad hominem to argue) and he calls me a name. It's actually pretty funny, so I don't take it personally.

You implied that I was derived the word "Christard" from "Paultard." I'm sure Christians and retards (redundant really) have existed long before Ron Paul even ran for Congress. And I called you a "fucktard" because I can.
 
You implied that I was derived the word "Christard" from "Paultard." I'm sure Christians and retards (redundant really) have existed long before Ron Paul even ran for Congress. And I called you a "fucktard" because I can.

No, you can't.

Come back in two weeks and read the forum guidelines.
 
Wow, something must of PO'd RT.

I suppose I should apologize to some of the believers on here for his insults.

Although I am very sympathetic towards his points, I don't think his attacks were warranted or appropriate.

I also would like to throw out that I'm also glad he wasn't banned permanently.
 
Wow, something must of PO'd RT.

I suppose I should apologize to some of the believers on here for his insults.

Although I am very sympathetic towards his points, I don't think his attacks were warranted or appropriate.

I also would like to throw out that I'm also glad he wasn't banned permanently.

I'm just not sure what happened there, I think he had a bad day or something. I don't recall him losing it like that before.

I'm also glad he wasn't banned permanently as well.
 
I watched the movie kite-flyer last night ,they portray anal sex with young boys as being ok in islam ,We know that christains do this .whats with religious dogmas and buttfucking?

Yes. The gospel according to Hollywood. I something in a movie so it must be true. :rolleyes: But obviously you weren't paying attention because you don't even know the name of the movie. (It's the "Kite Runner".) For the record the child actors in the movie had to flee Afghanistan over anger about the rape scene. Worse they and their parents were lied to about the content of the movie. (No mention of the rape scene). One of the boys cried when he was told to pull down his pants and refused to do so. The jackasses at Paramount didn't even want to foot the bill for their escape. Overall Hollywood sucks. There are some good people in Hollywood but mostly they just suck. Never forget that.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16912162
http://www.military.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news/kite-runner-boys-leave-afghanistan

Regards,

John M. Drake
 
"I think that Islam and Christianity are the most closely related religions than they are to any other religion (Judaism comes in a close second)."

As somebody who has studied judiasm, Christianity, and Islam in depth I strongly disagree with you.

Islam is mostly a hodgepodge of the pagan religion that existed in Muhammads time (the 5 pillars of islam were part of this), it also took elements from Zorasterism (ONly one god and muhammad his prophet is very close to what Zoraster and said about his god, verbatum except the name of the god was different and each individual claimed themselves as his prophet. Characters such as Jesus, Mary, Moses, and others are essentially taken mostly in name only and given completely different stories found in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

Islam is more deeply influenced by the pagan religion of Mecca than Christianity. Islam's monotheism comes from Zoraserism and Christianity and thats about it.

As well, the Tanakh and New testament are considered curropted by the Jews and Christians so while they may read the Bible anything that doesn't jibe with Islam is disregarded. So even when Muslims and Christians do read the same texts from the bible they have radically different perpectives on what they read.

Fuck it, I'll just come out and say it, Muhammad was a sick phedophile, whole broke the rules of even his own religion (he had like 12 wives when his religion calls for 4. I will give him the progressive act of legalizing prostitution though by allowing temporary marraiges. Married Aisha at 6, consomating his marrage with her when she was 9. He was a racist hating blacks, called for the death of many jews, killed poets who revealed him for the charleton he was. Muhammad used his religion as a tool to gain money, sex and power. Muhammad united the arabs by military conquest.

The message of Jesus was different. He chose peace. It's actually interesting, one of my old professors told us of one of his old professors suggesting that when Jesus was giving the Sermon on the Mount/Plain he was actually giving a speech to the sicari or daggerment. They were also known as the zealots. Jesus at first may have thought about becoming the Davidic Messiah (many jews in Jesus' time believed in 2 or possibly 3 messiah's coming to help them in time of need, one a preacher, one a warrior. THe davidic messiah would be the warrior obviously). Remember when he said "I come not to bring peace but the sword" more or less. I am paraphrasing out my ass but you know what I mean. Jesus, however, decided to chose peace.

Oh and I am an athiest/agnostic...it depends on what side of the bed I wake up on in any given day.
 
"I think that Islam and Christianity are the most closely related religions than they are to any other religion (Judaism comes in a close second)."

As somebody who has studied judiasm, Christianity, and Islam in depth I strongly disagree with you.

Islam is mostly a hodgepodge of the pagan religion that existed in Muhammads time (the 5 pillars of islam were part of this), it also took elements from Zorasterism (ONly one god and muhammad his prophet is very close to what Zoraster and said about his god, verbatum except the name of the god was different and each individual claimed themselves as his prophet. Characters such as Jesus, Mary, Moses, and others are essentially taken mostly in name only and given completely different stories found in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

Islam is more deeply influenced by the pagan religion of Mecca than Christianity. Islam's monotheism comes from Zoraserism and Christianity and thats about it.

As well, the Tanakh and New testament are considered curropted by the Jews and Christians so while they may read the Bible anything that doesn't jibe with Islam is disregarded. So even when Muslims and Christians do read the same texts from the bible they have radically different perpectives on what they read.

Fuck it, I'll just come out and say it, Muhammad was a sick phedophile, whole broke the rules of even his own religion (he had like 12 wives when his religion calls for 4. I will give him the progressive act of legalizing prostitution though by allowing temporary marraiges. Married Aisha at 6, consomating his marrage with her when she was 9. He was a racist hating blacks, called for the death of many jews, killed poets who revealed him for the charleton he was. Muhammad used his religion as a tool to gain money, sex and power. Muhammad united the arabs by military conquest.

The message of Jesus was different. He chose peace. It's actually interesting, one of my old professors told us of one of his old professors suggesting that when Jesus was giving the Sermon on the Mount/Plain he was actually giving a speech to the sicari or daggerment. They were also known as the zealots. Jesus at first may have thought about becoming the Davidic Messiah (many jews in Jesus' time believed in 2 or possibly 3 messiah's coming to help them in time of need, one a preacher, one a warrior. THe davidic messiah would be the warrior obviously). Remember when he said "I come not to bring peace but the sword" more or less. I am paraphrasing out my ass but you know what I mean. Jesus, however, decided to chose peace.

Oh and I am an athiest/agnostic...it depends on what side of the bed I wake up on in any given day.

You didn't study Christianity all too well, did you?
 
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"You didn't study Christianity all too well, did you?"

I have read the bible 2 times. I have read the Nag Hammadi library, Dead Sea Scrolls, parts of the Jewish Mishnah and Midrash. My book shelf is filled with books on the historical Jesus and early Christianity.

I have taken at least 4 classes strictly on Christianity: Old Testament, New Testament, yet another NT class and History of Christianity.

I am no doctorate...yet, I find it funny you are trying to allude to my ignorance of Christianity when I have spent years studying the faith.
 
Oh and James M. Robinson, and Bart Ehrman are 2 of my favorite authors on early Christianity.
 
You know why I'm leaving the Ron Paul forums for good? It's because of discriminatory racists like the ones here. You're all retards who don't even know a single thing about the values of Ron Paul. Go ahead and call me a troll, because it is immature and stupid behavior on your part. I want you all to realize that this movement was full of retards who knew nothing about Ron Paul or how to even coordinate a functioning movement. One loss here and there and everyone leaves, like rats. Rational Thinker, I commend your rational thinking =), although I do believe that Islam and Judaism are more closely related than christianity. Also, referring to your private message, Yes. To everyone else, GO TAKE A POLISCI CLASS AND I BET YOU ANYTHING THAT HALF OF YOU WILL NEVER COME BACK TO RON PAUL AGAIN!

This is exactly why we need to stop discussing religion. Although this guy may not be the most desireable member, we do not want to drive people away. I think everyone, religious or atheist, should take a deep breath, and read the threads about religion on these forums. We cannot continue like this. We need to stop bickering about religion.
 
You know why I'm leaving the Ron Paul forums for good? It's because of discriminatory racists like the ones here. You're all retards who don't even know a single thing about the values of Ron Paul. Go ahead and call me a troll, because it is immature and stupid behavior on your part. I want you all to realize that this movement was full of retards who knew nothing about Ron Paul or how to even coordinate a functioning movement. One loss here and there and everyone leaves, like rats. Rational Thinker, I commend your rational thinking =), although I do believe that Islam and Judaism are more closely related than christianity. Also, referring to your private message, Yes. To everyone else, GO TAKE A POLISCI CLASS AND I BET YOU ANYTHING THAT HALF OF YOU WILL NEVER COME BACK TO RON PAUL AGAIN!

Some of us here do understand. We are trying to change things in the movement... some have only recently come out of the dark, as MicahNelson describes to me, they don't understand what it is to debate, and they don't understand tolerance.
 
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