Is This True????

[T.hill]

Also, like many who have already addressed this I find it hard to believe that you didn't already know that. Finally, as a libertarian you should care about the libertarian goals being pursued and not meaningless endorsements that were made 4 years ago.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Infowars leaning towards endorsing Trump, as a result

Any former Ron supporter who endorses Trump over Rand is a complete moron.

along with attacking Trump rather than an establishment candidate like Rubio or Bush, and endorsing Mitch McConnell.

Trump is an establishment candidate, and the frontrunner, and Rand is the only one attacking him.

...but by all means, let Jones endorse Trump, he might get a 5% bump in ratings!



...fucking whore.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I was listening to a re-run of today's broadcast of Infowars, and although they are fans of Rand Paul; they mentioned Rand endorsed Mitt Romney while Ron was still in the Presidential race.

Is this true?

You've been a member of this site for as long as I've been here, you claim to worship the ground that Ron Paul walks on, and you don't remember what happened during the closing days of Ron's 2012 run? Seriously? Also, you might want to go easy on your intake of Infowars, people tend to get a little weird when listening to Alex Jones for too long.

 

[T.hill]

When Rand endorsed Mitt, his FB likes dropped dramatically (several thousand, maybe even in 5 figures, in just a matter of days). A lot of us forum members, including myself, sent Rand letters about our disapproval. I wanted nothing to do with Rand up until the debate on 12/15/15--when I donated to the campaign and came back to the forums. (I know May 2012 doesn't seem like a long time, but I had lurked since 07-08 and had an account before this one).

The way I remember it, Mitt HAD NOT secured the nomination by way of delegates because all of the CD/state conventions had not taken place. Ron was very much still in the race, all the way up until North Carolina and a couple other states voted.

A forum member -rep'd me in 2012, telling me that I would "eat my words" and that in addition to Ron, "Rand is good too." Fine, ya' got me. I'm eating my words by my very active presence on this forum and the money I'm sending to the campaign. Rand IS NOT his father, and for the longest time I just viewed him as another "lesser of X evils" type of choice. But after the passion he showed in the last debate, and the one before that, I was sold--something was different about him. DESPITE he endorsing Romney, McConnell, and whomever else, I am proud to stand with Rand.

I just wished more people who felt the way I did in 2012 feel the way I do now.

Many forgot about the Romney endorsement after his 2013 filibuster.

 

[TomtheTinker]

This is your problem. You are getting your information from infowars.

This.

Infowars has a clear and defined agenda. MONEY. In some ways it's a worse scam than MSM. They use rhetoric as if they support issues that are important to liberty lovers, independent thinkers and enimies of collectivism. Then they pervert legit issues and information to bring you to a parinode, negative and unproductive mind state l. Then they try to sell you shit.

There is some good info there and they are certainly out in front of some serious issues. Ask yourself this... How often are you in a positive and productive mind state after you get done listening to infowars???? Never

Supporting Trump is all about expanding their market. That's it.

Also. Worshipping the ground somebody walks on is kind of awkward.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Rand never supported Romney - or anyone - over Ron. He campaigned for Ron. He wanted Ron to win. He didn't leave before the campaign was over.

He said all along though that he would "endorse" whoever the eventual nominee was. The "endorsement" really was just a token one... he didn't actively support or help Romney. But it was something that he had to say.

This was the key point. Not only was it an empty gesture, it was a method of splitting the difference while not betraying substance, with Rand making the endorsement, so that Ron could go on to not endorse Romney (Mitt the control freak was demanding, Hillary-style, that the entire party bow down and coronate him at that point). The Pauls also seemed to sense Romney would not be winning anyway, so quietly playing along for the next five months would buy Rand a convention speech and better treatment for Paul supporters. After this election period gambit, supporters could go on trying to reform the party, and Rand could prepare for '16 without being branded as having been disloyal regarding supporting the GOP nominee in '12.

All the same, Alex Jones had the same negative reaction to Rand compromising at all, as anybody here on RPF. AJ has the same right to have a bad taste in his mouth over the endorsement as anybody else, and the same right to make pragmatic choices in service to achieving a liberty outcome. He said at the time he would get over Rand's decision, but he would never again have the same unblemished great opinion of the Pauls as he had before. The non-establishment phenomenon has created certain pathways to fight the elites that he has recognized, so in the absence of Rand doing well, AJ is embracing that trend through Trump.

 

[jkr]

 

[Peace&Freedom]

This.

Infowars has a clear and defined agenda. MONEY. In some ways it's a worse scam than MSM. They use rhetoric as if they support issues that are important to liberty lovers, independent thinkers and enimies of collectivism. Then they pervert legit issues and information to bring you to a parinode, negative and unproductive mind state l. Then they try to sell you shit.

There is some good info there and they are certainly out in front of some serious issues. Ask yourself this... How often are you in a positive and productive mind state after you get done listening to infowars???? Never

Supporting Trump is all about expanding their market. That's it.

Also. Worshipping the ground somebody walks on is kind of awkward.

Infowars is about getting the truth out as AJ and his staff see it, even if it makes you feel paranoid and negative. If the sources and admissions by former or current officials upset or depress, the issue is the info in those sources and admissions, not the messenger bringing them to the public's attention. Other shows on GCN reflect the same issues and emphasis, suggesting the subjects are not unique to AJ.

AJ also is about doing this without the trappings of regular commercial advertising (i.e., sponsors controlling the content through the backdoor), hence the emphasis on his selected products. If Jones was mainly about money and market share, he would have dropped his conspiracy talk and gotten a regular talk show gig, for which he would have been paid millions, not the mere hundreds of thousands in revenue he generates with Infowars.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Mitt Romney won the required number of delegates on June 5th. Rand endorsed on June 7th

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I was listening to a re-run of today's broadcast of Infowars, and although they are fans of Rand Paul; they mentioned Rand endorsed Mitt Romney while Ron was still in the Presidential race.

Is this true?

Barely true. Romney had already won all the delegates needed to cinch the nom.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

No, I must have been in denial. I worship the ground Ron Paul walks on. I would have bitch slapped anyone, including Rand, who turned on Ron Paul. Are you sure Ron's campaign was suspended? That's not the way Infowars is spinning it.

Rand didn't turn on Ron. You might want to turn the InfoWars off.

 

[Kotin]

Seriously?? This is a non issue and anyone trying to start shit with this on info wars can go fuck themselves.


Everyone wants to find stupid things this to throw at Rand when he has been the best senator in half a century.

NON ISSUE

 

[TheNewYorker]

After Romney secured the delegates on June 5th, Ron knowing he had no chance thereafter, then asked Rand to endorse Mitt, in hopes the RNC would give Ron a speaking spot at the convention.

As bad as your hate for Mitt is, he was one of few candidates that was respectful to Ron during the debates, never attacked Ron, and also invited Ron and family to dinner at his house, which Ron and crew accepted.

Mitt and Ron may have differed on policy, and we might hate Mitt due to his policy. But he was a gentleman and there was mutual respect between Ron and Mitt, both respectful gentleman.

Too bad we are stuck with a circus full of disrespectful buffoons this cycle (trump, et all)

Get with the program.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Further:

 

[VIDEODROME]

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Come on, you don't already know this? Ron had already suspended his campaigning, in any case.

Anyways, if Alex Jones wants to support Trump, it has nothing to do with anything Rand has ever said and done. Nothing. That's just them trying to go after a bigger marked.

exactly my sentiments

 

[Chester Copperpot]

After Romney secured the delegates on June 5th, Ron knowing he had no chance thereafter, then asked Rand to endorse Mitt, in hopes the RNC would give Ron a speaking spot at the convention.

As bad as your hate for Mitt is, he was one of few candidates that was respectful to Ron during the debates, never attacked Ron, and also invited Ron and family to dinner at his house, which Ron and crew accepted.

Mitt and Ron may have differed on policy, and we might hate Mitt due to his policy. But he was a gentleman and there was mutual respect between Ron and Mitt, both respectful gentleman.

Too bad we are stuck with a circus full of disrespectful buffoons this cycle (trump, et all)

Get with the program.

I didnt realize mitt invited and had ron for dinner.. that was nice.. Yes I think too many people made an issue of Mitt's religion which Ron always stuck up for Mitt as his religion shouldnt be a issue for him getting elected.

 

[erowe1]

I was listening to a re-run of today's broadcast of Infowars, and although they are fans of Rand Paul; they mentioned Rand endorsed Mitt Romney while Ron was still in the Presidential race.

Is this true?

No. Totally false. He waited until Ron had publicly conceded defeat to endorse Romney against Obama (we can bring up the records of the dates of the concession and the endorsement if you really need them). Ron was not still in the presidential race. Some of Ron's supporters refused to accept that, no matter what Ron said or did. Rand's endorsement of Romney ought to have been all that anyone needed to see that Ron was no longer running. But for some, even that wasn't enough.

Also, where were you when this happened? It was 4 years ago and you've been here since 2007. If you didn't see it the way InfoWars is trying to paint it when it actually happened, then why would you let them change your outlook now? And as an excuse for endorsing Trump? Really?

 

[Chester Copperpot]

No. Totally false. He waited until Ron had conceded defeat to endorse Romney against Obama.

Also, where were you when this happened? It was 4 years ago and you've been here since 2007. If you didn't see it the way InfoWars is trying to paint it when it actually happened, then why would you let them change your outlook now?

seems like youre were the only person to actually read the OP correctly and answer it properly.. lol

 

[erowe1]

The more I think about it, the more infuriating this is.

This is just blatant disinformation on Alex Jones's part. He's taking advantage of peoples' fuzzy memories of something 4 years ago and harping on an element of truth to support a lie. This is the exact same thing as what we encountered in 2012 when Red Staters and others spread the lie that Ron Paul had endorsed Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader in 2008.