Is the Pope a False Prophet? By Andrew P. Napolitano

[Sola_Fide]

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Matthew 7:21. Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'*

When have you ever done anything as good as "prophesied", "cast out demons " or done "many wonders" in Jesus name?

If Jesus tells them to depart from Him, what is He going to say to you?

 

[pcosmar]

Did Jesus put people in categories?

He will.
His flock, and not his.

and only He know who is who.

 

[Ronin Truth]

When have you ever done anything as good as "prophesied", "cast out demons " or done "many wonders" in Jesus name?

If Jesus tells them to depart from Him, what is He going to say to you?

"Hey guy, really good to see you. Come on in".

This Earth is not my home. I'm just passing through.

 

[Sola_Fide]

He will.
His flock, and not his.

and only He know who is who.

How does He know who is His?

 

[Sola_Fide]

This Earth is not my home. I'm just passing through.

Jesus is going to accept you....based on what?

 

[Ronin Truth]

How does He know who is His?

Is God omniscient?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Is God omniscient?

You believe Jesus is God now?

Furthermore, does God look down on everyone to see how good they are and accept their goodness?

 

[Ronin Truth]

You believe Jesus is God now?

Furthermore, does God look down on everyone to see how good they are and accept their goodness?

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

Are you mentally disabled? If you are, I apologize for pressing you to respond in an intelligent way.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Are you mentally disabled? If you are, I apologize for pressing you to respond in an intelligent way.

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

 

[moostraks]

Same authority? No. But Jesus admonished people to judge with right judgment, so a Christian must do this. Furthermore, a Christian does not have to know the Pope to judge him, one just has to listen to the false gospel he preaches.

For example, I don't know you personally, but I judged you because you preach paganism. That is a correct judgement based on the Bible.

Lol! You just couldn't resist a good kick could you? Pa-the-tic as usual. You don't have righteous judgement because you don't know people's hearts as he does and the only measure by which mere mortals have to go by is the efforts and demeanor of the person in question. To which one could consult:

Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Or:

Matthew 5:Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them.

The Beatitudes
He said:

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I am sure since you have accused me of preaching Paganism you can put your money where your mouth is? Or are you still going off your trite recitation of wife beater yes/no questions by which one must cast stones at others lest they be branded with a scarlet letter p in the forum, eh?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Lol! You just couldn't resist a good kick could you? Pa-the-tic as usual. You don't have righteous judgement because you don't know people's hearts as he does and the only measure by which mere mortals have to go by is the efforts and demeanor of the person in question. To which one could consult:

Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Or:

Matthew 5:Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them.

The Beatitudes
He said:

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I am sure since you have accused me of preaching Paganism you can put your money where your mouth is? Or are you still going off your trite recitation of wife beater yes/no questions by which one must cast stones at others lest they be branded with a scarlet letter p in the forum, eh?

My apologies Moostraks. Let me clarify something to get my judgement right:

Is Native American paganism wrong? Yes or no?

 

[acptulsa]

Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious... 20 hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions ...

My apologies Moostraks. Let me clarify something to get my judgement right:

Is Native American paganism wrong? Yes or no?

*sigh*

 

[moostraks]

Just because he's afraid they finally appointed a pope who has a better chance of getting into the Kingdom than he does does not mean you need to help him hijack this thread.

I'd rather talk about the pope's speech than watch our resident false prophet make an ass of himself yet again, arguing over whether Jesus would consider occupations 'categories', or trying to avow that 'sheep and goats' isn't just another way to say the same thing I said, and other sophist nonsense.



If I thought the corrupt office automatically corrupted any man who held it, I wouldn't be here trying to get Rand Paul into the presidency.

Francis is an individual, and if he wants to take on the taint of a tainted office in the hope that this office will enable him to do some good in spite of the taint, I will applaud him individually for it. Because I'm a libertarian, and that's the way libertarians should roll.

GL on getting much discussion on that speech here. I am thinking there is several personalities that will be going to argue over 2000+ years of church history rather than discuss where common ground can be found.

This comes to mind irt the petty idol that serves self interests of some who are so enthusiastic at condemning others:

Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

 

[moostraks]

*sigh*

Double that sigh...

 

[moostraks]

Lol! You just couldn't resist a good kick could you? Pa-the-tic as usual. You don't have righteous judgement because you don't know people's hearts as he does and the only measure by which mere mortals have to go by is the efforts and demeanor of the person in question. To which one could consult:

Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Or:

Matthew 5:Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them.

The Beatitudes
He said:

3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called children of God.
10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

I am sure since you have accused me of preaching Paganism you can put your money where your mouth is? Or are you still going off your trite recitation of wife beater yes/no questions by which one must cast stones at others lest they be branded with a scarlet letter p in the forum, eh?

My apologies Moostraks. Let me clarify something to get my judgement right:

Is Native American paganism wrong? Yes or no?

Lol! Smh...

I see I was accurate on why such nonsense was being spoken about my faith yet again.

 

[hells_unicorn]

1. If I thought the corrupt office automatically corrupted any man who held it, I wouldn't be here trying to get Rand Paul into the presidency.

2. Francis is an individual, and if he wants to take on the taint of a tainted office in the hope that this office will enable him to do some good in spite of the taint, I will applaud him individually for it. Because I'm a libertarian, and that's the way libertarians should roll.

1. The office of the presidency is not specifically laid out as being the throne of the Son of Perdition in the New Testament, The Papacy is, particularly in 2 Thessalonians 2, but also in a few places in Revelation and elsewhere in scripture. While I think that the U.S. Constitution is a pagan document that should be either repealed or modified so as to recognize the true religion, I am given both a command and a path of prudence via Romans 13 (the chapter that libertarians tend to not comprehend properly yet hate immensely) to deal with pagan yet reasonably restrained magistrates in a different way, I am afforded no such choice with heretical sects or with the Antichrist.

2. The amount of love that exists between libertarians and Jesuit Marxists of late is almost as sickening as some people on this forum getting a thrill up their leg over Donald Trump. There is no reforming the Papacy anymore than there is a possibility of getting a poison tree to bear good fruit, ESPECIALLY when I'm dealing with a man who was educated by a holy order that was founded on the expressed purpose of destroying Protestantism and anyone else not bending their knee to Rome. If I hadn't have had to work yesterday, I'd have been down in Philadelphia waving a homemade picket sign reading "Homo peccati, redire in Babylonem".

"...the plowing of the wicked, is sin." Proverbs 21:4

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Well, the Pope isn't a Catholic, as evident by his statements.

So there's that...

2. The amount of love that exists between libertarians and Jesuit Marxists of late is almost as sickening as some people on this forum getting a thrill up their leg over Donald Trump. There is no reforming the Papacy anymore than there is a possibility of getting a poison tree to bear good fruit, ESPECIALLY when I'm dealing with a man who was educated by a holy order that was founded on the expressed purpose of destroying Protestantism and anyone else not bending their knee to Rome. If I hadn't have had to work yesterday, I'd have been down in Philadelphia waving a homemade picket sign reading "Homo peccati, redire in Babylonem".

I do in part blame the Jesuits for our current predicament.

They failed in their mission, the levelling heresy was not snuffed out, and now it's metastasized and infected Rome itself.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

The Pope is a bishop. That's all. The rest of the authority, power, etc that popes have taken or been given over the years is arbitrary.

 

[hells_unicorn]

I do in part blame the Jesuits for our current predicament.

They failed in their mission, the levelling heresy was not snuffed out, and now it's metastasized and infected Rome itself.

The Jesuits were one of the major sources of the heresy you are talking about, hence all their support of communist regimes throughout the 20th century, and I'm all but convinced that they gave moral and maybe financial support to Munzer's rebellion in order to oust the Lutheran Princes so Rome could move back into Northern Germany. If you won't listen to me, look at the history of what these rats did to faithful, Augustine members of the Roman Clergy in France and Belgium (dubbed Jansenists) during the 17th and 18th century, and read about how Bishop Cornelius Otto Jansenius rightly condemned these people as Pelagian heretics in his Augustinus, which was wrongly condemned by an ignorant pope (a redundancy in terms). Ignatius of Loyola was caught up in a rather curious heresy in Spain known as the Alumbrados just before his so-called "Order" was approved by Rome.

The true catholic and apostolic church is not in Rome, if it ever existed within Rome's bounds to any extent following Trent, that ended in 1870 when the Ultra-montanists fully took over. Ironically enough, Bishop Jansen was himself an obedient follower of Ultra-montane ecclesiology, something that Most Holy Family Monastery and other various "traditionalist" outfits conveniently forget whenever they whine about heresy being rampant in everybody else who criticizes papal abuses other than them. The same was basically true of Blaise Pascal and Antoine Arnauld, though Quesnel eventually repudiated the Ultra-montane position, largely because he probably began to understand what it had led to in his day.

http://www.romancatholicism.org/jansenism/papal-heresy-jansenists.html

The Pope is a bishop. That's all. The rest of the authority, power, etc that popes have taken or been given over the years is arbitrary.

I agree in principle with this statement, the only thing I would add is that if the Pope would drop his title outside of a council context and simply refer to himself as bishop or patriarch, it would probably eliminate a lot of confusion. Granted, I don't think the Papacy wants to do away with its arbitrary distinctiveness and all the power that it tends to confer to it.