Is Ron Paul 2008 our Last Hope?

[Revolutn]

The last hope is guns and ammo in the hands of enough liberty minded people.
Our founders knew it.
Our founders lived it.
Our founders wrote it down so that it might never be forgot.
We've failed by and large to care enough as a whole to read or remember it.


As to Ron Paul being the 'last' hope however.....I always think of the sceene from The Empire Strikes Back.

Obiwan to Yoda as Luke leaves his Jedi training pre-maturely on Degobah
"That boy was our last hope."

"No. There is another."


There is always 'another' hope.

What there isn't at the present is another man to be the focal point of that hope.
And time draws ever narrower to escape a completely totalitarian society where rebellion even of an armed nature, which Dr. Paul does not support, will be very difficult to succeed.

When I think of that pending reality, I recall this:

"If you will not fight when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Winston Churchill

And I am driven to push harder to awaken persons yet in the fog, before it comes to a 'worse case' with no hope of victory.

Rev

 

[alaric]

Exactly. Factor in all of the civil-liberty-eroding legislation, Executive Orders and Presidential Directives that are now on the books. And then factor in the NAU.

The noose is almost closed. This is it.

if the internet is basically closed, like in china, the time for talking will be over. Other means will be needed. That will not be pretty. No, I won't give up in either case, but i don't think 'elections' will then help or be fair, either.

 

[pcosmar]

There is always 'another' hope.

I think Ron Paul is the last hope for a peaceful transition.
He is not the Last hope, but I hope it does not come to that.

 

[daniroyer]

I voted "no" because there are so many people who are rising up and running for office thanks to Ron Paul. Without him as President, it will be INCREDIBLY hard, but he isn't the end. Only the beginning.

 

[exer51]

Pretty much. There's a chance if we RABIDLY start taking over city/state governments and educating EVERYONE... But if he loses and we don't get at it 10x what we have we're done IMO.

 

[Luft97]

Hmm, it's interesting the percentages have stayed almost the same since the poll started

 

[u2canbfmj]

As long as we continue to fight, we have thousands of Ron Pauls in this country. We need to run for office, get elected, reform the government from the inside. OR Allow the Central Government to become even stronger, there by, many of the sheeple's rose colored glasses will be removed. These former sheeples will be a tipping point in the fight for a correctly sized constitutional republic.

 

[Xenophage]

Ron Paul is my generation's first hope. He's the only hope we've ever had. How can we say its our last?

I was born in 1982. We've never had an ideological revolution of this magnitude before. Its going to get bigger.

 

[Xenophage]

Hmm, it's interesting the percentages have stayed almost the same since the poll started

OMG! VOTE RIGGING!

I CALL FOR A RECOUNT!

 

[Dr.3D]

At the current rate the constitution is being infringed upon, in 2010, there will be little of the constitution left to protect people who would try to change the direction the Federal Government is heading. By 2010, there will be a totally CFR controlled government and I'll be surprised if it isn't a One World Government.

This is the last chance to elect someone as president who would change the current direction this country is heading into.

There will be no other chance to elect anybody when they take away voting rights.

 

[Swmorgan77]

I just want to know what you think.. Do you guys feel that this campaign is our last hope for true freedom?

Honestly yes.. and that's not to say that even if Dr. Paul won that freedom would happen.

Like RP has said in several speeches, we have to be a moral nation to make freedom work and to deserve it.

If this effort fails in this election, I honestly don't see how the United States will avoid the problems that are at our doorstep. I think this nation is headed for a Soviet-style collapse. After that, will free areas exist that uphold the Constition.. yes. That is where I plan to be.

 

[shane2]

I'm really surprised we are even getting this last chance to seriously bust up TPTB and regain our Constitution.

For me, I'll be vigorously supporting Ron Paul getting his message out far & wide for as long as his star burns brightly illuminating the masses to the loss of their Constitutional freedoms and liberties.

When it comes time to take this country back, whether he had won or not, we'll have thousands more fellow patriots standing shoulder-to-shoulder with us then because of him and this historic campaign having awakened them.

I hope/pray we can do so in-time via the ballet box and not need the cartridge box.

- Shane

 

[[email protected]]

Ron Paul is my generation's first hope. He's the only hope we've ever had. How can we say its our last?

I was born in 1982. We've never had an ideological revolution of this magnitude before. Its going to get bigger.

In 1982 the Constitution was still largely intact. It has now been virtually legislated away. How are you going to continue the fight if you're in jail for being a domestic terrorist because you spoke out?

 

[TurtleBurger]

It's not the last hope for freedom in general. However, if Ron Paul is not elected, thousands more American troops and innocent Arab civilians will DIE. This is the last chance for many of them.

 

[MN Patriot]

The Ron Paul Revolution is DOOMED

If most people think Ron is our last hope, then what is the point of even trying? Ron is 72 years old. How many more years will he be involved in politics? 8 at the most?

If most people here think one man is our last hope, then they are horribly unrealistic. Wake up, people. YOU need to become the next Ron Paul. Learn the issues, learn how to present them. Learn how the political system works. Ron has created a great example of how to argue the merits of freedom. We just need to take it to the next level.

That next level is an independent run, preferably as a Libertarian. Have a Libertarian run for every Congressional seat. Emphasize the need to grow the party as a central campaign message. Then in 2, 4, 6 years we can take the country back with hundreds of Ron Pauls in Congress.

 

[[email protected]]

If most people think Ron is our last hope, then what is the point of even trying? Ron is 72 years old. How many more years will he be involved in politics? 8 at the most?

If most people here think one man is our last hope, then they are horribly unrealistic. Wake up, people. YOU need to become the next Ron Paul. Learn the issues, learn how to present them. Learn how the political system works. Ron has created a great example of how to argue the merits of freedom. We just need to take it to the next level.

That next level is an independent run, preferably as a Libertarian. Have a Libertarian run for every Congressional seat. Emphasize the need to grow the party as a central campaign message. Then in 2, 4, 6 years we can take the country back with hundreds of Ron Pauls in Congress.

Ron himself isn't our last hope, but it's imperative that he reach the White House to toss out all of the Executive Orders and Presidential Directives that threaten our liberty. It is also crucial because by the time the next Presidential election comes around the internet will probably be regulated and the message of freedom will be outlawed. As President he can't be denied the microphone. The only way this succeeds is if we get him there now. Others can carry on after he is gone, but unless we get him the microphone now the message will be silenced for good.

 

[MN Patriot]

Ron himself isn't our last hope, but it's imperative that he reach the White House to toss out all of the Executive Orders and Presidential Directives that threaten our liberty. It is also crucial because by the time the next Presidential election comes around the internet will probably be regulated and the message of freedom will be outlawed. As President he can't be denied the microphone. The only way this succeeds is if we get him there now. Others can carry on after he is gone, but unless we get him the microphone now the message will be silenced for good.

Get real. The message of freedom won't be silenced for good if Ron doesn't win this election. But we will continue to gradually lose our freedom unless the libertarians and conservatives who value freedom unite and create a political organization that can role back the welfare state.

As I've stated before, if Ron doesn't get the Republican nomination, he needs to run as a Libertarian, get a Libertarian to run in every congressional district, and have a united campaign platform that we can present to voters. Every candidate must emphasize growing the LP so it can compete with the other two, and win elections with 34% of the vote in another 2,4,6 years.

 

[jlaker]

No. Our generation and the internet are going to get a patriot elected during my lifetime even if it isnt Ron Paul

I was watching Glenn Beck and he had a guy on talking about the government taking contol of the internet. He said Bush plans on trying to do this in Febuary. He was saying we need to give up our privacy a little for protection. Sound farmilar. He said if this doesn't get done we would have a Pearl Harbor attack on the internet. Glenn asked the guy if this means that he wrote an E-mail to his aunt would the government be able to read it and he said if they felt they needed to. This would be very very bad.

 

[Luft97]

Since there are so many on atm I'm interested to see the results

 

[stevedasbach]

Doomsday predictions are almost always wrong.

If Ron Paul doesn't win, he will have laid the foundation for Ron Paul candidates winning seats in Congress, and a candidate running on a version of Ron Paul's platform winning the Presidency, hopefully in 2012.

Of course, it would be much better to get Ron elected in 2008.