Is One World Goverment so bad after all?

[Ozwest]

"Man perfected by society is the best of all animals; he is the most terrible of all when he lives without law, and without justice.'

Aristotle -

 

[AutoDas]

I support a one world government.

 

[Ozwest]

I support a one world government.

Why?

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Centralization of power, especially to such an extreme, is inherantly bad.

Think how horridly the common man would be represented in a one world government.

 

[Ozwest]

" The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law."

Aristotle -

 

[Ozwest]

"The moral and constitutional obligations of our representatives in Washington are to protect our liberty, and not coddle the world, precipitating no-win wars, while bringing bankruptcy and economic turmoil to our people."

Ron Paul -

 

[pinkmandy]

I support a one world government.

And who would run your one world government? The same type of people who run the US except it would be even worse- all the power hungry and corrupt people from all corners of the earth would be positioning themselves in that power structure. And you'd want to condemn the whole world to the same fate? Sounds like utopia to me.

Who are you? Dick Cheney in cognito?

 

[Ozwest]

And who would run your one world government? The same type of people who run the US except it would be even worse- all the power hungry and corrupt people from all corners of the earth would be positioning themselves in that power structure. And you'd want to condemn the whole world to the same fate? Sounds like utopia to me.

Who are you? Dick Cheney in cognito?

Dick Cheney Rules!

I respect a fire-arms expert.

 

[rpfan2008]

I support a one world government.

Are you campaigning for it?

 

[Ozwest]

I prefer rational and objective thinking.

I hate outside authority, and would prefer to be self-reliant.

 

[pinkmandy]

Dick Cheney Rules!

I respect a fire-arms expert.

Lol! Well I'm not going hunting with that kind of expert!

 

[Ozwest]

Lol! Well I'm not going hunting with that kind of expert!

I'd love to go "a hunting" with him.

 

[dsentell]

If a one world government is so wonderful ---

how about letting the people of the world vote on it

rather than sneaking it in on the unsuspecting people of the world . . .

 

[Hiki]

I'm all for a world without trade barriers (no tariffs and few restrictions). Where the whole world has the same open free trade market, as individual countries have internally. With globalism we are moving more and more towards this, capital goods and people move around more freely. I think its a very good thing, in one sense we are already part of it. The fact that the world is pretty much one country when it comes to trade does not mean it has to be one county when it comes to law. In a sense we are free to choose the govt and laws that best suits us.

We can make money in one country (where wages are high), live in another (where taxes on consumption are low), save our money in another (where capital gains taxes are low and the money is stable).

If you are against your tax money going to a war in Iraq.. just pay your taxes to a different country. If you don't want to move, you can still live in the same old country, but as a tourist. In many countries being a tourist is actually better than being a citizen (less taxes and obligations (like military service, jury duty, etc.)), you still have the protection of the law. Killing tourist is still illegal.

The whole concept of being a citizen get blurred and looses its meaning, when you start collecting citizenship (i got two, working on a third). You start feeling more like a free person of the world, rather than belonging to any one country.

Obviously its not so easy to arrange, and its more a dream than reality, but its a pretty cool concept. Not being a citizen of any country is really as free as anyone can get.

Edit: There is even a name for such free world citizens and tax evaders.. "perpetual traveler" aka "permanent tourist" aka "prior taxpayer".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_traveler

Cheers

I think you told my story better. The biggest mistake I made was probably with the word "government". Yeah I'm not saying that we must have centralized power in one location on earth where big rich men rule the world. I was merely meaning exactly what Driftwood said, a global community where you dont have borders or countries separating people from eachother, this way you wouldn't have any national conflicts. I didn't mean that different cultures must be demolished, of course they can be kept. Of course we don't go to the African tribes and tell them to abandon their way of life and join the global community, they should be left alone.

But yeah, at this time this is nothing but mere dreaming, but I can dream can I? But sometimes it's nice to use your imagination and outside-the-box-thinking, you can come to rather surprising results. I never thought I would actually support this especially after seeing documentaries like Zeitgeist and those Alex Jones stuff. But realizing that those are but one side of the argument, tsadam and here we are.

If a one world government is so wonderful ---

how about letting the people of the world vote on it

rather than sneaking it in on the unsuspecting people of the world . . .

Exactly, this is how it should be done, not by a few powerful men.

 

[Ozwest]

If a one world government is so wonderful ---

how about letting the people of the world vote on it

rather than sneaking it in on the unsuspecting people of the world . . .

You miss the point...

It's corporations aligned with governments that exacerbate this process.

Until people get off their backsides and do something, everyone will be led down the garden path...

What happened to your cherished liberties?

Here's hoping you won't find out.

 

[pinkmandy]

I think you told my story better. The biggest mistake I made was probably with the word "government". Yeah I'm not saying that we must have centralized power in one location on earth where big rich men rule the world. I was merely meaning exactly what Driftwood said, a global community where you dont have borders or countries separating people from eachother, this way you wouldn't have any national conflicts. I didn't mean that different cultures must be demolished, of course they can be kept. Of course we don't go to the African tribes and tell them to abandon their way of life and join the global community, they should be left alone.

But yeah, at this time this is nothing but mere dreaming, but I can dream can I? But sometimes it's nice to use your imagination and outside-the-box-thinking, you can come to rather surprising results. I never thought I would actually support this especially after seeing documentaries like Zeitgeist and those Alex Jones stuff. But realizing that those are but one side of the argument, tsadam and here we are.



Exactly, this is how it should be done, not by a few powerful men.

That may sound nice, but it isn't realistic. Not possible unless you can genetically alter people to remove the zest for power gene. We will always have people grubbing for power and the fewer bodies we have in control, the scarier that is for the rest of us. Someone is ALWAYS "in charge". Whether they be the people who regulate, legislate, or create the money supply. The only way to kneecap them is for people to govern themselves at a local level.

 

[TheGrimReefer]

"Real free trade requires no treaties." - Lew Rockwell

If you want to have true free trade and no borders than we need to get rid of government, not make a bigger one. Even if the leaders were elected by the majority it would still be corrupt because every government uses aggression to stay in power, otherwise it wouldn't be government.

Heres a good video on the EU that everyone should watch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2699800300274168460&q=eu&ei=cHxNSPHILpXk4AKNmqybDA&hl=en

 

[Ozwest]

"Real free trade requires no treaties." - Lew Rockwell

If you want to have true free trade and no borders than we need to get rid of government, not make a bigger one. Even if the leaders were elected by the majority it would still be corrupt because every government uses aggression to stay in power, otherwise it wouldn't be government.

Heres a good video on the EU that everyone should watch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2699800300274168460&q=eu&ei=cHxNSPHILpXk4AKNmqybDA&hl=en

A good reason Ron Paul lost votes.

No subsidy of farmers.

 

[Hiki]

That may sound nice, but it isn't realistic. Not possible unless you can genetically alter people to remove the zest for power gene. We will always have people grubbing for power and the fewer bodies we have in control, the scarier that is for the rest of us. Someone is ALWAYS "in charge". Whether they be the people who regulate, legislate, or create the money supply. The only way to kneecap them is for people to govern themselves at a local level.

Perhaps it ain't, knowing the nature of people it is quite utopistic. Even a true communistic system would be wonderful, but it is utopistic. The Soviet Union was a great example of a great idea driven by power-greedy men which eventually failed.
Perhaps this "global community" idea could work if people are always active in the politics of the system. If someone/a group starts going for power then it's the obligation of the people to hold them back and prevent them from doing it. If you just had a strong and active "Ron Paul movement" watching over the system then you could possibly prevent power from corrupting. But of course I'm asking too much from people, Ron Pauls are hard to come by.
I did say that people should be allowed to govern themselves at a local level, having local "governments", and not the parliament or whatever in the global community deciding on their matters.

But you all wanting to get rid of government, remember that an anarchy is also utopistic. You need some kind of a government, however you bend it.

 

[Ozwest]

Utopistic?

I'm moving to Bhutan. haha